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1501, 23 Mar 20

GOP Leaders Respond to Evers’ Order

I watched all but the very end of the Q&A of the governor’s press conference. It was a mess. No details. No definition of “essential” businesses. No reason for the change of policy. Evers admitted that he hadn’t even spoken to the legislative leaders. Several times the governor’s legal counsel jumped in to answer on behalf of the governor. I don’t know about you, but I’d like to hear from my actual elected governor on these things. Overall, I was not left with any sense of comfort that the people now micromanaging our lives are competent enough to be doing so.

In any case, it appears that the GOP leadership is pushing back a little, but I want more than better communication from our governor. I want competent decision-making that takes into account all stakeholders’ interests and protects out civil liberties.

“The governor’s announcement has created mass amounts of confusion. For days, Governor Evers took a measured approach and reassured business owners that a shelter-in-place order may not be necessary. Legislative leaders even complimented him for it. The governor’s sudden change of course and lack of specific guidance have increased the level of uncertainty and anxiety in our state. The people of Wisconsin deserve clear communications during a public health emergency.

“There also needs to be a better understanding as to why the decisions are being made, because of the impact on the economy, businesses and residents of the state.

“It appears at the end of the governor’s press conference, there are more questions than answers. We would ask the governor to answer the following questions for the people of Wisconsin:

  • What are the metrics that this decision is based on?
  • What is considered an essential and non-essential business? How is that being determined?
  • What changes need to happen for the order to be lifted?

“The governor’s executive order came as a surprise to the legislature. It was a complete reversal from his repeated assurances. It should be noted that legislative leaders have asked on a daily basis whether or not this was the direction the governor was headed, and we were told it was not.

“We all want what’s best for Wisconsin. We want people to stay safe and follow CDC guidelines. We would ask the governor to do a better job communicating to the people of Wisconsin.”


1501, 23 March 2020


  1. Owen

    Amen to that. Evers also referenced the CDC list of essential businesses, but he qualified it by saying that Wisconsin may have a different perspective. Again… not helpful.

  2. jonnyv

    I would have rather him had more “ducks in a row” before announcing this. I don’t have a problem with the actual order. But maybe push it off one more day and have something on paper you can direct people to.

    FYI. I work in an “essential” job category and will continue to be going to work.

  3. Owen

    Same, but not everyone in my family and circle is.

  4. Kevin Scheunemann

    The Ohio order is less restrictive on many fronts than what Evers has in place now.

  5. dad29

    Evers continues to prove that he should be a one-term mistake.

  6. jjf

    Dad29, if he saves your life or the life of other olds, will you vote for him?

  7. steveegg

    Something tells me that religious organizations will be left off Evers’ (WEAC-WEAC) exempt list.

  8. Mar

    jjf, there have been far fewer gang bangers killing each other in Chicago. By your logic, we should put the entire state of Illinois under martial law to protect gang bangers.

  9. Mike

    There are too many different types of business to list the “essential: businesses. It would be easier to list the non- essential business types along with mitigating measures business could use to stay open.

    Some other governors have also used the mantra “if it saves one life” it is worth the disruption. Either path will have a cost in lives, at this point the way forward is to decide which path will cost the least lives.

  10. Owen

    Part of the problem with defining “essential” businesses is that we have a highly diversified, highly integrated economy. With rare exception, our industries are not vertically consolidated with one firm owning everything from raw materials to the final product. This is especially true in the information industries where a single piece of code, for example, may have inputs from dozens of companies in dozens of countries. So when you talk about the small manufacturing company that makes a tin bracket, is it essential? What if that part is sometimes used in ventilators? Does the manufacturer even know all of the uses for its product? If that business closes, we might not know it was essential until weeks later when we run out of those brackets to make the ventilators. Then, can that business restart overnight? Where are the employees?

    There are a billion supply chain considerations here that are impossible for a handful of closeted government “experts” to understand and consider.

  11. MjM

    Kevin sez: “This is kind of death liberals cause ….”

    Wait for it…..

  12. dad29

    It may be prudent for Tokin’Tony to do what he did, based on a study which demonstrates that early and serious intervention is the optimum-path in the long run.

    That said, Tokin’Tony should have had SOME idea of which way is North before he opened his pie-hole and demonstrated his utter stupidity.  He also should have cited the study (showed up yesterday on the ‘nets)….

  13. MjM

    “Non-essential” is basically the entertainment, recreation, personal care industries. Theaters, golf courses, bars, sports, nail spas, barbers, etc..

    If the Ohio list linked to by JV is any indication the vast majority of the actual work force will continue on. But here, with dimwit Tony, it’s anybody’s guess. With no brain of his own, he’s just following along with IL and MI because herd mentality.

  14. Merlin

    “The governor’s executive order came as a surprise to the legislature.

    Looks like it came as quite a surprise to Evers as well, since he claimed no such plans just the evening before while preening before the cameras. They need to stop letting Tracksuit Tony be questioned without his handlers present. Maybe Maggie can list Evers as non-essential and make him shelter at home for the duration.

  15. jjf

    Kevin, those people did it because Trump said it was a cure.

  16. Mar

    Right, jjf, its Trumps fault for those 2 idiots to go to Mexico and buy the medicine, bring it across the border and then overdose on it.
    Sounds more like something a Biden supporter would do.

  17. jjf

    Oddly, Biden supporters didn’t do that, nor did Biden say it was a cure.  But keep going…

    We’ll just let Grandpa sacrifice himself.

  18. Le Roi du Nord

    I’m sure folks like mar, mjm, and dud will gladly get in line with the Lt. Gov. and drink the kool-aide.

  19. dad29

    nor did Biden say

    Biden’s been seen for 6 minutes in the last 8 days, and 5 of those minutes were a total disaster.  But that’s Biden.

  20. jjf

    Maybe he’s got the ‘Rona, Dad29.

    Are you sacrificing yourself to the virus?  It’ll help the economy.

  21. Mar

    “I’m sure folks like mar, mjm, and dud will gladly get in line with the Lt. Gov. and drink the kool-aide.”
    I sure am. Last night I had a nice sit down lasagna dinner at a local Italian restaurant. The night before I sat down at a locally owned hamburger joint.
    Tonight, I am going to a bar.
    I’m not going to change my lifestyle just because some liberal snowflake tells me to.
    Now, I am off to go shopping.
    I have worked in the health care/special ed field for 40 years and my immunity is pretty strong.
    If I get sick, so be it. I live by myself, so I won’t spread it to anyone. My guess, I have a better chance getting killed in a car accident than getting killed by the Corona virus.

  22. jjf

    Mar, you’ve read that it spreads early and even if you are without symptoms.  So you will spread it, if you get it.  That’s the point.

  23. MjM

    Kevin sez: “This is kind of death liberals cause ….”

    MjM sez:  “Wait for it…..”

    DMOTP Jiffy scores!: “those people did it because Trump said it was a cure.”


    Took all of 47 minutes.     Fish.  Barrel.

    (pun intended)


  24. MjM

    Daddio sez: “But that’s Biden.”

    Q: Are you at all concerned that some say we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem itself?

    “We have to take care of the cure.  That will make the problem worse no matter what — no matter what.”  – Joe “Babblin'” Biden, the View, today.


  25. Mar

    jjf, the thing is, I have to in contact with someone who has it.
    No one in our county has it. I do due diligence in personal hygiene. The chances of me contacting the virus is very remote.
    Catching another illness is more likely.

  26. dad29

    Maybe he’s got the ‘Rona, Dad29.

    Nope.  He has the Big A.  And it’s not early-stage any more.

  27. Mar

    “Kevin, those people did it because Trump said it was a cure.”
    They took aquarium/fish tank cleaner and not the same drug.
    Don’t you look like an ass.
    Wait, that’s 99% of the time.

  28. MjM

    And the bubble headed bureaucrats – the “experts” so loved by Nort – at the FDA, who along with the CDC, constricted testing for more than a month and then sent out faulty test kits, has killed off in-home test kits. Instead these brainiacs prefer having health care workers bombarded by constant exposure possibilities, not to mention other citizens,

    And I guess they don’t like Bill Gates.

  29. Mar

    NPR, which Le Roi loves to quote, is interviewing a writer who writes about Zombies, is now speaking as an expert on the Corona virus.
    Wow, just wow. Liberals just have a severe lack of brain cells.

  30. jjf

    Mar, you’re right.  Max only has an opinion.  Let’s listen to the doctors and epidemiologists.

    MjM, did you find the news story yet from the people who poisoned themselves?  Yes, they said they did it because Trump said it was a cure.

  31. Mar

    “Yes, they said they did it because Trump said it was a cure.”
    Correct me if I am wrong, but did President Trump really say to use aquarium cleaner to prevent or cure the disease?
    Seems like this couple are eligible for The Darwin Award.

  32. jjf

    Mar, it’s only a hop skip and a jump from using fish antibiotics, if you ask me, and people do that all the time.

  33. MjM

    Mar, you see the problem here, dontcha?

    DMOTP Jiffy has to defend people who are as stupid as he and people like DMOTP Jiffy have an intrinsic psychological disorder that requires them to blame others for their own stupidity.

  34. jjf

    I’m not defending the people who took this cleaner.  I’m saying they did it because they heard Trump tell them a similarly-named substance was a cure.  Call ’em stupid if you think that helps.

    Why can’t you wrap your head about the idea that it was wildly premature (from any sort of medical science standpoint) and highly irresponsible of Trump to bring it up – because of dim bulbs like this, as well as the perspective of giving people false hope ?  Certainly Fauci has had to immediately try to backtrack when he said it.

    Oh, it’s because you can’t criticize Trump.

  35. Mar

    You do realize that doctors all over the world are using this medicine and they use it the US. It’s not irresponsible to tout it.
    And since you didn’t watch the press conference and you get your news from liberal rags, you have no idea what you are talking about.
    And since people are self medicating and misusing the medication instead of going to the doctor, that is Trump’s fault?
    That is just a mind boggling stupid thought.

  36. Mar

    So, jjf, has President Trump done anything right during this crisis?

  37. jjf

    Mar, the fact that a drug exists, has been approved for certain uses, doesn’t mean it should be used for whatever else you want.  Yes, they discover new uses for old drugs.  Yes, they need to conduct tests to prove it.  And there are known risks for the old drugs.  Also, the dose makes the poison.

    Trump might as well have advocated for leeches and bloodletting.

    Has he done anything right?  Can’t think of anything off the top of my head.  Open by Easter, he says!

  38. Mar

    jjf, you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. But ignorance is blis.
    So, I guess you are just hateful racist person. Now I know where you are coming from.

  39. Le Roi du Nord


    I know the drug exists as I take it for severe RA.  It is also used for malaria.  But it has not been approved by the FDA for use against covid 19.  Now my pharmacist says it is in short supply because it is being used inappropriately and without approval.  I wouldn’t wish RA on any normal person, but now I would gladly share with folks that are promoting improper use of the drug.

  40. Mar

    Le ROI, sorry about the RA, and I truly mean that.
    But to say it is being misused, then your are blaming the doctors who are prescribing it. Medical professionals.
    Apparently they know something you don’t.

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