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1539, 16 Jan 19

Karen Pence to Teach at Christian School

The anti-Christian bigotry of the Left is on full display with this story.

Second Lady Karen Pence, the wife of the US vice-president, will return to teaching art at a school that requires employees to oppose LGBT lifestyles.

The school in Springfield, Virginia, bars teachers from engaging in or condoning “homosexual or lesbian sexual activity” and “transgender identity”.

Mrs Pence previously taught art at the school for more than a decade while her husband was a member of Congress.

A spokeswoman for Mrs Pence has hit back at criticism of her employer.

“Mrs Pence has returned to the school where she previously taught for 12 years,” the second lady’s spokeswoman Kara Brooks said in a statement.

“It’s absurd that her decision to teach art to children at a Christian school, and the school’s religious beliefs, are under attack.”


1539, 16 January 2019


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Everyone is welcome in Christianity.

    However, true, biblical churches and schools will expel members if they are openly unrepentant about their sin.   It is indicating they have placed themselves outside the Christ’s kingdom with their unrepentance.   the hope is: they see the seriousness of their sin and desire to repent and rejoin.

    No one is being excluded, they are welcome back with joyful repentance anytime!

  2. jjf

    The Bible talks about transgender issues?  Where?

  3. Owen

    Whether you agree  with it or not… Whether you think their beliefs are Biblical or not… it is their right to practice their faith. Religious freedom and freedom of conscience used to be a universally-understood tenets of the American Experiment. Now it is openly attacked by the Left. That’s the point.

  4. jjf

    Just because you want to label these beliefs as “faith” doesn’t get you a free pass to prevent criticism.  Go ahead, practice your faith all day and all night.  Just don’t expect that everyone else won’t have an opinion about it.  There are plenty of Christians who aren’t as awful about their neighbors.  Plenty of atheists, too.

    In any other circumstance, would you think it’s great for an employer to require you to have a particular set of thoughts?  To teach art?

  5. MHMaley

    Why would any parent want to send their child to a school that asks the child to repent according to a book written thousands of years ago about magic
    That allows for discrimination in any circumstances .

    These schools are free to practice voodoo if they chose to , just have the parents or kids pay for
    It themselves .

  6. Kevin Scheunemann


    Christians who do not speak truth in love to their fellow Christian about open sin and unrepentance, really risk their own souls by being unconcerned about the direction of the openly unrepentant in their midst.

    As an unbeliever, I would implore you to not hurdle your sould into the pit, but in the end, you are free to reamin hostile to God and his grace.   There is consequence for that.  The school does not want people Shepherding their children home to Jesus in heaven who are heading in the wrong direction.

    Are you saying Christians have to put up with unrepentant unbeliever/CINO’s guiding their children in grace they do not understand?  That is the ultimate demonic demand one could make against a Christian, short of demanding he renounce Christ.

  7. Jason

    Congrats Maley, you’ve made no sense and related to nothing on topic.


    Just because you want to label these beliefs as “faith” doesn’t get you a free pass to prevent criticism

    Does the same go for “White Privilege” ?  Or criticizing others based on race, sex, or political affinity?


  8. Kevin Scheunemann

    We are all clear that Mark Maley renounces Christ and is heading away from Christ, to his eternal consequence.   (Yes, Mark, I know you deny the existence of your soul).   Should Christians have to put up with Mark Shepherding their children home to heaven in the classroom if he his hopelessly lost himself?

    To demand, unrepentent sinners teach at the Christian school, the “Christian” school would be no different than a public school at that point.

  9. jjf

    All those jihadists…  just protecting their faith, right?

  10. Kevin Scheunemann


    Because killing people for a false religion and having standards of grace for your Christian teachers are same thing?

    You are very insulting.

  11. jjf

    Oh, Islam is false?  Do tell!  How’d you determine that?

    For a bunch who believe they claim the mantle and protectorate of all freedoms, it’s amazing to see how quickly you think your freedom of thought should be sold for a few bucks to your employer – along with your labor!

    You might think you love freedom, but you love authority more.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    False religions are an easy spot. Anyone preaching good works (however they define them, Islam has a sick sense sometimes of what if ‘good’) earn your way to heaven is a false religion. When good works are a duty, or drifting obligation….false religion.

    It is only by grace in Christ that can save you, that is not of yourself, but a free gift of salvation. Good works are a thankful expression of salvation, not a duty or obligation.

    So it is very easy to tell false religions, they all have the same mistake in common, they deny our state of total depravity and imply we are capable of good without God.

  13. jjf

    I guess that settles that!  This religion stuff is so easy!

  14. Le Roi du Nord


    Anything k disagrees with is false. k alone wields the power of absolute truth.  Freedom of speech and religion (or freedom from religion) only applies to k.  The rest of us don’t count.

  15. MHMaley

    “Statements made without evidence can’t be dismissed without evidence .
    Christopher Hitchens

  16. Kevin Scheunemann

    Oh you atheists, you lecture me on absolute truth while trying to impose
    /force your moral darkness absolutism on a Christian school.

    It is hyper-ironic.

    I can admit my absolute truth. You scurry and deny the absolute truth you live by.

  17. Le Roi du Nord


    Nobody lectured you, as that is your role in life.  But rather numerous folks have pointed out the folly of your fact-free claims.

  18. MHMaley

    The “absolute truth” referred to is a matter of faith .
    Faith is belief without evidence .

    The arrogance of nullifying the other 10,000+ Gods that man has made up and saying yours is the only “real “ one is of course an opinion that is your right to have .

    Lacking any evidence for your claims just doesn’t make it persuasive .

    “The God who stands by with folded hands as
    9 million children a year die under the age of 5 is either impotent or evil”
    Sam Harris

  19. Kevin Scheunemann


    You always lecture about what you perceive as the “evil” of absolute truth.   You deny it.  You hate it.  You are constantly offended by it.

    Your “absolute truth” is to fight against absolute truth to your eternal folly and you are bent on taking as many down with you when it comes to those of us that dare to profess absolute truth.

    Don’t tell me you don’t live by unyielding convictions, you would lie by saying you don’t have unyielding convictions of hostility when it comes the absolute truth of God.


  20. Kevin Scheunemann


    It still does not get around the fact that the hateful, atheist left, wants to impose their immoral standards on the Christian school.

    That is just pure evil and no tolerance.


  21. jjf

    See, Mark, when Kevin wants to use the Bible to make laws, or Owen wants to use tax dollars to recruit kids to religion, that’s not forcing people…

    When your employer tells you what you need to believe, even after you signed the contract, that’s just the free market!

  22. Le Roi du Nord


    I don’t think I have ever used the word “evil”  to describe your bogus “absolute truth” fantasy.  Feel free to prove me wrong.

    The rest of what you said is both gibberish, and false.  Why must you lie?

  23. Kevin Scheunemann


    If you don’t believe absolute truth to be evil, then why do you treat something ‘not evil’ with constant disdain?

    You are sending mixed signals again.

  24. Kevin Scheunemann


    We have been through this before.

    The goal of a Christian school is to Shepherd the children in the faith home to Jesus in heaven. If the Shepherd is living in unrepentant sin, outside the grace of Jesus….how can teacher do the job as Shepherd if they are hopelessly lost from the path of Jesus grace?

    The sinful liberal morality of darkness is a huge problem if the Christian teachers are caught up in it.

  25. Pat

    I have no problem with any religious faith based school and who ever they accept to teach within. The problem I have is when tax dollars are appropriated to such school. I know, I know, there are some who incorrectly attempt to use the term “religion” to anything that is a belief to rationalize their argument. But if any money is appropriated to any private school, tax payers should have the same amount of oversight of that school, as they do with public schools.

  26. Kevin Scheunemann


    When you defund public school religions of the left, AND, show me public schools actually have “oversight”, given the discipline issues in nearly every district, then you have an argument.

    Clean up public schools first.

  27. Pat

    And there folks is the expected rationalization with which I alluded to.

  28. Le Roi du Nord


    Every claim you made in that last post is incorrect.  Why do you continue to be so untruthful in pursuit of your authoritarian agenda ?

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