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2158, 30 Mar 16

Trump Waffles on Abortion Issue

Serious people who actually think about issues know their own mind on an issue as important as abortion. Trump’s meandering thoughts on it show that he has either never seriously thought about one of the most important social issues of our time, or he is simply pandering to whoever is in front of him at the moment. I strongly suspect that it’s both.

Throughout his campaign, Trump has faced questions about the authenticity of his position on abortion. He said he was “pro-choice in every respect” in a 1999 interview, though he said he hated the “concept of abortion.”
His comments on Wednesday appeared to be the latest in Trump’s persistent efforts to court the support of socially conservative voters. But his efforts backfired as three leading anti-abortion groups swiftly criticized Trump’s comments.
March for Life released the toughest statement of the three groups, calling Trump’s remarks “completely out of touch with the pro-life movement.”

2158, 30 March 2016


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Trump is not believable on this issue from any point of view.

    I’m not convinced he wants to stop liberal pre-born baby murder in the slightest.

  2. Pat


    Do you realize that 30% of all women, by age 45, have had an abortion?
    And do you realize that these women cover all spectrums of life including religious and political affiliation?

    You, like many, believe that abortion is murder. What should be the consequence for the women who gets an abortion?

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    I’m good with just making sure the concentration camps for the pre born are shut down and punishing those that do the procedure.

  4. Pat

    So, is there a difference if a woman pays someone to kill her child outside her womb than there is paying someone to kill her child inside her womb?

  5. Kevin Scheunemann

    They would both be unacceptable. I also consider what is legally doable vs. what we have today.

    I’m for getting the country to the first 2 steps, which would save about 35 million lives over next 30 years, and then evaluating whether legal punishment would be needed if issue is widespread after shutting down the providers.

    If we still have a widespread problem with parents putting a “hit” on their unborn child. I’d be willing to look at it.

  6. Pat

    That’s a great non-answer.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann

    This thread isn’t about me.

    It’s about a once, very radical pro baby killing candidate, allegedly changing his tune on the killing.

    I just don’t believe it. Partly, because of how passionate liberal he was and partly it’s hard to take him seriously on any issue stand because he flip flops worse than John Kerry.

    It’s also hard to reform those that support extermination of a weak population class on a massive scale.

  8. Mark Maley

    The Pro life position on this is nonesensical

    If “killing ” your children is murder , both the doctors and nurses involved and the mother
    “Contracting ” the murder all have to be charged with murder

    Once you tell women they have no choice
    But to submit what they can do and when they can do it with their reproductive organs
    Killing is killing

    Blaming the abortion provider only is exactly the political hedge they whine about liberals making

    I just ask that they be consistent


    When the storm troopers burst into houses to pull out women who had abortions and
    Grab illegal immigrants ( all 12 million of them) , then and only then will Trumps promise come true that America is truly
    Great again

    The cost projections of the wall Mexico is going to pay for has risen from Trumps origional $ 4 Billion to a current $25 Biilion

    Republicans, he’s all yours !

  9. Kevin Scheunemann


    The problem is: liberals have corrupted the morality on this by dehumanizing the pre-born.

    It will take several sicial steps to humanize the innocent pre-born. (As we see from the foaming NARAL reaction of the Doritoes ultrasound SB commercia, any effort to humanize the victims of abortion is met with derision and hostility by the baby killing crowd.)

    Undoing the bankrupt liberal social corruption on this will take time.

    It still takes work today to prosecute war crimes from WWII and humanize the victims from those death camps.

  10. Pat

    So Kevin, yes or no, is there a difference if a woman pays someone to kill her child outside her womb than there is paying someone to kill her child inside her womb?

  11. old baldy


    What are these, where are they located ?

    “concentration camps for the pre born”.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    Anywhere abortions are performed.

  13. old baldy


    Another term from kevin’s New Order Dictionary.

  14. Pat

    “Anywhere abortions are performed.”

    Would a death camp include the pregnant women’s home if she elects to terminate her pregnancy with the aid of mifepristone, and misoprostol?

  15. Pat

    I’ll ask another question. Is abortion premeditated murder and should it be illegal?

  16. Pat

    What Kevin, all of a sudden you get quiet on the subject of death camps and murder?

  17. Kevin Scheunemann

    Not quiet. Just uninterested in redundancy because I gave you my plan to slowly get America back on moral path above.

  18. Pat

    You gave a hypothetical plan. But you didn’t t answer any of my questions as to what you believe.

  19. Pat

    So this is what Kevin openly believes;
    Abortion is murder.
    Clinics that provide abortions are the same as death camps.
    We’re not sure if he considers a persons home a death camp if they self abort.
    The conclusion is if an abortion has taken place in a clinic a murder has taken place with the mother taking out a hit on their child.
    If an abortion has taken place at home the mother is guilty of murder one.
    If abortion becomes illegal there are going to be a lot of women guilty of murder and evidently will have to be punished as Trump originally stated.
    If you’re alright with exceptions for rape and incest would killing one of those children be OK after they are born? Remember, Kevin says it’s murder.

  20. old baldy


    I wonder what his position is regarding birth control? Are all the pharmacies and C-stores that sell condoms guilty of being a party to murder?

  21. Pat

    It’s funny when Kevin says, “Just uninterested in redundancy”, because I’ve never seen him uninterested in redundancy with any other topic, and he’s never before been uninterested in redundancy when it’s come to talking about murder and death camps. I sincerely believe that the conversation has gotten to the point where Kevin has become afraid to directly say what he believes.

  22. old baldy


    Yup, I think he painted himself into a corner.

  23. Kevin Scheunemann

    Not really, see my post from March 31.

  24. Pat

    Still in a corner with that answer.

  25. old baldy


    Yup, he has several from March 31st, and none answer the question.

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