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1029, 03 Jun 23

Hawaii Continues to Suppress Civil Rights

Yup. Still unconstitutional.

HONOLULU (AP) — Hawaii Gov. Josh Green on Friday signed legislation that will allow more people to carry concealed firearms but at the same time prohibit people from taking guns to a wide range of places, including beaches, hospitals, stadiums, bars that serve alcohol and movie theaters. Private businesses allowing guns will have to post a sign to that effect.

 

The legal overhaul comes in response to a U.S. Supreme Court ruling from last year that expanded gun rights by saying Americans have a right to carry firearms in public for self-defense.

 

New York and New Jersey adopted similar laws last year that quickly met legalchallenges which are making their way through federal courts.

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1029, 03 June 2023

3 Comments

  1. Mike

    Another state sticking a thumb in the eye of us citizens. The second amendment is very plain that individuals have the right to keep and bear arms. the tenth amendment sets a hierarchy of rights of the people over powers and authorities granted to governments. SCOTUS has affirmed this right and set explicit limits on how it can be regulated.

    Officials involved in passing these laws need to be removed by the people and face criminal charges for misconduct in public office.

  2. jonnyv

    Mike, it is really interesting scenario. The last ruling by the SCOTUS refered back to laws that were make in the 17 & 18oos based on “historical tradition” of the laws at that time and requiring an anagalous law at that time. By that measure, I think that felons would have a solid case to restore their 2nd amendment rights as well. Because the felon law wasn’t put in place until the mid 1930s.

    And that SCOTUS ruling really just talked about the restrictions that states can put in place as to the restrictions you can put in place in order to purchase. I don’t believe they have ruled as to WHERE you can carry. There are federal laws resticting places you can bring firearms. But I don’t think that it says anything about those being exclusive? So legally, I think that Hawaii currently has grounds to do what they are doing… until it is brought to court.

  3. Jason

    >And that SCOTUS ruling really just talked about the restrictions that states can put in place as to the restrictions you can put in place in order to purchase.

    Alito wrote that the court had decided “nothing about who may lawfully possess a firearm or the requirements that must be met to buy a gun”

    Justice Brett Kavanaugh, joined by Chief Justice John Roberts, noted the limits of the decision. States can still require people to get a license to carry a gun, Kavanaugh wrote, and condition that license on “fingerprinting, a background check, a mental health records check, and training in firearms handling and in laws regarding the use of force, among other possible requirements.”

    >I don’t believe they have ruled as to WHERE you can carry.

    The question for the court this time was just about carrying a gun outside the home. Thomas, who turned 74 on Thursday, wrote in his opinion that: “Nothing in the Second Amendment’s text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms.”

    jv, you fucking moron.

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