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1517, 30 Aug 20

Only 6% of COVID Deaths Were Due to ONLY COVID. 94% Had Comorbidities

This seems relevant.

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities,

Oh, and this… when thinking about kids returning to school.


What does this mean? This means that this is a serious disease that disproportionately impacts those with serious underlying health conditions. This is particularly concerning for elderly people who are more likely to have an underlying health condition.

As a matter of public policy, we should be encouraging sanitary and behavioral actions to limit the spread of disease and take particular care for our elderly and sick people. It does not mean, however, that we should shut down our economy or strip people of their civil liberties. This is a serious health concern that needs some attention. It is not something for which we should abandon our way of life.


1517, 30 August 2020


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    A lot of panic for little reason.



  2. jjf

    Comorbidities?  You mean medical conditions they were living with?

  3. Owen

    Comorbidity means more than one disease or condition is present in the same person at the same time. Conditions described as comorbidities are often chronic or long-term conditions. Other names to describe comorbid conditions are coexisting or co-occurring conditions and sometimes also “multimorbidity” or “multiple chronic conditions.”

    IOW, they had more than one disease or condition (average is 2.6) and they don’t know for sure which one killed them. Likely, it was the combination or interaction of multiple diseases or conditions. Like I said, “This means that this is a serious disease that disproportionately impacts those with serious underlying health conditions”

  4. MjM

    DMOTP Jiffy chirps: “Comorbidities? You mean medical conditions they were living with?”

    No, dumbass. He means medical conditions they were already dying from.

  5. Mar

    I wonder what the death toll would be if not for the criminal conduct by liberal governors like Cuomo who put Chinese virus patients in nursing homes.

  6. jjf

    And spin the wheel…  now the gallery has returned to being medical experts.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    And we can wonder what the death toll would be if the pandemic wouldn’t have been labeled a “hoax” , but taken seriously?

  8. dad29

    Speaking of “medical experts”, is Fraudci “yes” or “no” on masks today?  Is the NYTimes “yes” or “no” on testing, since up to 90% of ‘positives’ are barely ‘positive’ at all?

    And just for fun:  what makes Fraudci an “expert”?  A Gummint job?  50+ years of never treating a single patient?  Looks?  Failure on AIDS?

    What, exactly?

  9. jjf

    What makes Dad29 an expert on anything?

  10. Mar

    So, looks like Le Roi and jjf are still cheering for more deaths just to make President Trump look bad.
    Take one for the liberal team.
    So sad.
    So pathetic.
    So typically liberal.

  11. jjf

    Mar, by your logic, Trump should be doing everything he could to lower the death count.

  12. Le Roi du Nord


    No mar, I’m not “cheering for more deaths”, I am mourning the 180,000+, that already died, many of which were avoidable. You, however, are still supporting a guy that takes no responsibility, blames others, ignores the professionals, and has spouted a continuous stream of lies about the virus since it popped up on our shores. You can’t hide from any of that, you own it.

  13. jjf

    Mar has such weird tics.  He latches on to claims that are clearly not in evidence and he thinks that repetition makes his argument stronger.

  14. Jason

    >are still supporting a guy that takes no responsibility, blames others, ignores the professionals, and has spouted a continuous stream of lies about the virus since it popped up on our shores.

    Congratulations, you just described Evers.

  15. jjf

    Show your work, Jason.

  16. Mar

    Well, Le Roi, you are right about 1 thing: many of the deaths could have been avoided. Like putting Chinese virus patients in nursing homes, like what Cuomo and other Democrats have done and something you and jjf have refused to condemn.

  17. Jason

    >Show your work, Jason.

    Yeah, sorry you have a long queue of unfulfilled work requests.  I know what I said, why I said it, and I don’t care that you don’t like it.  Keep up with the social media during your billing hours Foust, it shows what an honest and diligent contractor you aren’t.

  18. jjf

    Keep up with the social media during your billing hours Foust, it shows what an honest and diligent contractor you aren’t.

    And the intent of your doxxing is…?  Just more personal insults to show how civilized you are?

  19. Jason

    Not doxxing, having doxx’d you, don’t care.  You’ve bragged about your IT consulting business and clientele here in the past.  Grow up little baby.

  20. jjf

    I’m just a little fuzzy-necked baby, right Jason?  That’s your level of commentary.

    What are you doing all day?

  21. Mar

    Now, who is doxxing?
    By the way jjf, you never said anything about doxxing, including when liberals do it.
    And protestors going to people’s homes, which is a form of doxxing.
    Why are you silent?

  22. jjf

    Mar, let’s have a conversation about doxxing, then…  I’m silent?  I’m the only one willing to talk about it.  It happens in all sorts of ways.  Where do you draw the line?

  23. Jason

    >What are you doing all day?

    Non of your business, since I haven’t shared my private details…  You can drop the Doxxing Victim act, you screwed up, you chose to share details, you chose to publish articles, you chose to blog, you chose to “stand up so no Public School student might be exposed to any amount of Christianity”.  You chose to create a parody site of this and link to it here. You don’t get any sympathy when you cry that you’re being Doxxed.  You don’t get any sympathy when you cry you’re being bullied.

    Grow up, meaning, you got yourself into this situation, now enjoy it, live it.

  24. Jason

    >Where do you draw the line?

    You apparently only draw the line when you cry that it happens to you… erroneously cry at that.

  25. jjf

    Jason, I’d say you don’t want to share your personal details because you’re afraid that someone would do to you, what you cheerfully to do others.

    That’s your intent, right – bullying?

    So the floodgates open once someone speaks in public?  All bets are off, any level of doxxing is OK at that point?  Letter to the editor, boom?

    Let’s ask Mar if he thinks people should be able to protest at Owen’s house.

  26. Mar

    jjf, no, no one should protest at a person’s house. There has to be limits. People have a right to privacy and peace and quiet at their home. Plus, why bother the neighbors.
    As far as doxxing, I am against all forms of doxxing unless it is a public record, like a criminal record. I’ll look up someone’s criminal record on a very rare occassion and only if it involves a news story, like the Kenosha shootings.
    But other than that, what business is it of mine what you do in your private life?
    And I really don’t care what kind of work you do, unless you bring it up.
    So, what is your position?

  27. jjf

    I think there are lines, too.  Too often these days, internet vigilantes think they’ve found the right person and they haven’t.

    I feel sorry for the Kyle Rittenhouse in Rock County, as he had nothing to do with Kenosha as far as I’ve heard, but there were people who knew enough to use CCAP but not enough to know to check the birth dates.

    Where’s the line with protests at someone’s house?  At one end there’s the White House.  Somewhere along the way, there’s a Governor’s mansion.  Both owned by the public, lived-in by elected officials. Maybe fair?

    But an election clerk in a tiny town?  Or a cop?  Seems far less reasonable.

    Or I recall some moments here on B&S not long ago where a disgruntled right-y (not lefty) was posting very detailed info related to one of the blog owner’s employment.  Again, very unreasonable and not justified. And for that matter, I didn’t even understand why they were doing it.

    Or in Jason’s case, he thinks it’s fair to suggest I must be cheating a client by commenting here.  Is that libel?  What will he do next?

  28. Mar

    I do agree with you on the White House, there is tradition there. I do disagree with governor’s mansion though. In Wisconsin, it’s located in Maple Bluff and in the middle of a residential neighborhood.

  29. jjf

    Our governor can choose where they live, no?  And those people knew the public mansion was there, right?

  30. Mar

    The way the road is situated (I used to be a volunteer firefighter/EMT there) it would be dangerous to have protests there, especially if there is an emergency.
    Other governor’s mansions, perhaps.

  31. Jason

    > if he thinks people should be able to protest at Owen’s house.

    Is anyone protesting at your house?   This was about you crying about being Doxxed, when in fact you weren’t.  You shared your information with online persona’s…. dumb.  You thought it would be funny, cute, thuggish to spin up BootsandKittens… dumb.   Now you’re getting what you give, and you’re a victim…. lame.

  32. jjf

    Tell us why you bully, Jason.  Don’t be shy.  Do you feel stronger?  Makes you a better person?

  33. Mar

    And still, jjf and Le Roi are silent on Governor Cuomo and other Democrats who put Chinese virus patients into nursing homes, killing many thousands of patients and workers.
    How dishonest and uncivil of them.

  34. jjf

    And still the voices are in Mar’s head early in the morning.

  35. Mar

    And jjf has nothing to add.
    Still supporting more deaths at death camps run by liberals, right jjf?

  36. jjf

    Well, actually…  in your head, I’m probably busy with racism this morning to worry about the death camps.

  37. jjf

    Uh oh, more sexism from Jason?

  38. Jason

    When you can’t argue the logic – argue the words… that’s why you’re a neck beard.

  39. jjf

    So why do you use words like “pussy” in this context, Jason?

  40. Jason

    Excluding the one word that you don’t like.. can you refute the rest of my statement?   I didn’t think so.

  41. jjf

    Refute?  The mayor said he’s doing it out of concern for his neighbors.

    “I want to express my sincere apologies for the damage to our home and the fear that you are experiencing due to my position,” Wheeler wrote, according to a screenshot of the email sent to The Oregonian.

  42. Jason

    So the mayor of an entire city is only concerned about his neighbors in the building he shares with them.  Just think what the city would be like if he had concern for all the businesses, and other residents!  Wouldn’t be 90 days of protests, for sure.

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