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2126, 21 Aug 20

Biden Would Shut Down Country

This is precisely why he should not be elected. He would throw away our jobs, our savings, our lives, and our futures. He has no judgment and no ability to balance competing interests and conflicting information. The notion that he would shut down the country – as if POTUS even had that authority – because “the scientists” said so is disgusting.

Former Vice President Joe Biden said in an exclusive interview with ABC “World News Tonight” Anchor David Muir on Friday that as president, he would shut the country down to stop the spread of COVID-19 if the move was recommended to him by scientists.

“I would shut it down; I would listen to the scientists,” Biden told Muir Friday, alongside his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., during their first joint interview since officially becoming the Democratic Party’s presidential and vice presidential nominees.


2126, 21 August 2020


  1. Randall Flagg

    He would throw away our jobs, our savings, our lives, and our futures.

    Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

    Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…

    The dead rising from the grave!

    Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!


  2. Randall Flagg

    as if POTUS even had that authority….

    Trump said they do:
    Reporter: “There’s a debate over what authority you have to order the country reopened. What authority do you have on this one?”
    Mr. Trump: “Well, I have the ultimate authority.”

    “When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total and that’s the way it’s got to be. … It’s total. The governors know that.”

  3. Mar

    Just another sign that Senile Joe is really senile.
    So, what maybe good in NYC would be good also in places like Goldfield NV, in the Amish communities, Meadview AZ, and Lowell, WI?
    Right, Senile Joe.

  4. Jason

    >as if POTUS even had that authority….

    Don’t you think it’s interesting that Joe Biden has previously been critical of what you’ve quoted from Trump….   and yet still says what he just did.  It’s like he thinks he do exactly what he excoriated Trump for thinking.  It can’t be hypocrisy at this point, can it… it has to be cognitive.

  5. Le Roi du Nord

    Listen to any trump interview in the last 2+ years and tell me you think Biden is senile. trump couldn’t complete a thought or sentence if you paid him.

  6. Jason

    I don’t see how Trump’s medical condition affects Biden’s in any way. Take a moment to explain why you think it does.

  7. dad29

    Trump was told that he does NOT “have total authority” in this instance.  (In some other scenarios, he does.)

    That’s why Maggie Gau tells Tin-Pot Tony Evers what to say, when to say it, and how to say “folks”.

    Cuomo has authority too, and killed near 10,000 people with it.

  8. jjf

    Le Roi, obviously you don’t know anything about cherry-picking and poo-flinging.

  9. jjf

    Randall – it’s amazing!  Biden is simultaneously all-powerful yet impotent!

  10. Le Roi du Nord


    Correct, I leave that to the experts.

  11. Le Roi du Nord


    I used it as a comparison to the claim mar made.

  12. Mar

    So,it looks like jjf and Le Roi are openly celebrating an obvious racist.
    If he is not senile then he is a racist.
    Which one is it?

  13. Le Roi du Nord

    Neither. Biden is, without a doubt, more capable of putting together a cogent thought than trump. Anyone with functioning eyes and ears knows that. It is what it is, ya know.

  14. Mar

    So, you are ok with “”Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
    That is extremely racist.
    Ok, I guess racists think the same.
    And here I was giving Senile Biden an excuse.
    I guess not.

  15. Kevin Scheunemann

    Liberals cheer their crazy leader, leading us to Marxist dark ages.

    Not surprised.

  16. Jason

    >I used it as a comparison to the claim mar made.

    Thats my point. It doesn’t address mar’s claim in any way. You think that if Trump is senile that Biden can’t be?

  17. Le Roi du Nord

    And you cheer your crazy leader. Isn’t America an amazing place , where we can still disagree without fear of repercussions?

  18. Mar

    “where we can still disagree without fear of repercussions?”
    Tell that to those involved in the cancel culture and those being doxxed and having their homes visited by thugs.

  19. Pat

    Speaking of canceled culture, has everyone destroyed their Goodyear tires yet?

  20. Le Roi du Nord


    I bought an extra set.

  21. Mar

    Thank you Le Roi for supporting NASCAR. Is appreciated.

  22. Mar

    “Listen to any trump interview in the last 2+ years and tell me you think Biden is senile. trump couldn’t complete a thought or sentence if you paid him.”
    So says Le Roi, who has something in common with Biden and Presdent Trump:
    All lie whenever it suits them.
    But of course, Senile Joe has an excuse.
    What is your excuse, Le Roi?

  23. Le Roi du Nord

    Don’t need an excuse, the truth hurts you doesn’t it?

    Hint: Keith Hernandez isn’t a murderer. The Brits didn’t have airports in the 1770’s. etc.

  24. Kevin Scheunemann


    Why would you buy an extra set of tires from a company cheering on uber radical leftism, if you are not a “liberal” as you claim?

    Unless you constantly lie….you are not just a liberal, but a radical, America hating, liberal like Goodyear to buy an extra set.

  25. jjf

    Kevin, you had no opinion about Goodyear except as a tire or a blimp until Trump said something, and now you hate them.  Where did Goodyear “cheer on uber radical leftism”?  Is that intentional misrepresentation?  Because in my dictionary…

  26. Le Roi du Nord

    Sure k, where did Goodyear say that? Or are you making stuff up again?

  27. Pat


    Do you denounce QAnon?

  28. dad29

    you had no opinion about Goodyear except as a tire or a blimp until Trump said something, and now you hate them.

    Right-thinking Americans had no idea Goodyear had created a cop-hatred “training” until Trump brought it out into the open.

    We note that Goodyear is now in full-panic mode.

  29. Pat


    Do you denounce QAnon?

  30. Pat


    Do you denounce QAnon?

  31. Pat


    Do you denounce QAnon?

  32. Jason

    >Do you denounce QAnon?

    Sorry Pat, but I have the moral courage to denounce all criminal behavior, not just your selection. Big difference.

    Remember k Pat, you don’t get to tell me what to do. Nor when, where , or how. Your juvenile bullying tactics don’t work on smart folks with courage and a spine.



  33. jjf

    Your juvenile bullying tactics don’t work on smart folks with courage and a spine.

    Oh Arturo, Prince of Irony!

  34. Pat

    “ you don’t get to tell me what to do.“

    I didn’t. It was a question. Duh.

  35. dad29

    QAnon is great reading material.  Name the criminal act that QAnon did.

  36. Pat

    That’s a no for Dad, and Jason.

  37. Pat

    Now Dad and Jason, do you denounce Antifa?

  38. Jason

    Sorry k Pat, but I have the moral courage to denounce all criminal behavior, not just your selection. Big difference.
    Remember k Pat, you don’t get to tell me what to do. Nor when, where , or how. Your juvenile bullying tactics don’t work on smart folks with courage and a spine.

  39. Jason

    >I didn’t. It was a question. Duh.

    I just copied two responses from Leroy to K, and even just used strikethrough on the k and then added “Pat”.  So funny that you never commented on Leroy’s use and feel you need to with mine.

  40. Pat

    Yah, it’s funny isn’t it.

  41. Kevin Scheunemann


    Which part of QAnon were you looking for a denouncement on?

    However, I could take Nord approach and say “you don’t get to tell me what I doenounce”.

    Fortunately, for you, if you name a reprehensible specific behavior I will have courage to denounce it…unlike Nord.


  42. Le Roi du Nord


    Irony is lost on these guys.  They want us to do things they won’t.  Amazing set of double standards.

  43. jjf

    QAnon is great reading material.

    O RLY?  Tell us more!  What’s an example of a great part?

  44. Kevin Scheunemann


    What are you smoking?

    I just said to Pat, point out a specific reprehensible behavior and I will be willing do denounce it.

    You are unwilling to denounce anything specific. Even criminals that assault cops.


  45. Le Roi du Nord


    I have never smoked, tobacco or otherwise. You are lying again.

    And once again, you don’t get to tell others who or what to denounce. You are a really slow learner.

  46. Mar

    Do you denounce QAnon?”
    Nope, as long as they don’t break the law.
    Pat, glad they let you have computer privileges at Mendota.

  47. Mar

    Senile Joe is now running commercials that he would mandate wearing masks.
    Yup. Very senile.
    But of course, he isn’t running the commercials, his handlers are.
    Senile Joe is just sitting in his basement drooling, having his CNA change his diapers, getting his meds with pudding and having his speech therapist teach him how to talk…..
    Kind of of Like Le Roi and jjf.

  48. Kevin Scheunemann


    So they are a crazy conspiracy group like Bernie sanders and his crazy Marxism against capitalism.

    Free speech.

    Name a reprehensible, or criminal action they have done?

    You demand I denounce free speech, but you and Nord cannot denounce specific criminal traitors? Wow.

  49. Pat


    Do you denounce liberalism?

  50. Kevin Scheunemann


    I criticize modern day liberalism on almost every front as awful totalitarianism.

    I denounce criminal actions by leftists in Portland, Seattle, Chicago, and other areas where looting and rioting is condoned and enabled by evil leftists.

  51. Pat

    Ok, you accept liberalism.

  52. Jason

    >So they are a crazy conspiracy group like Bernie sanders and his crazy Marxism against capitalism.

    Conspiracy group like the foaming left who are crying aloud that Trump is trying to destroy the USPS so he can steal the election!

  53. Le Roi du Nord

    And again, k wants folks to do things he won’t.

  54. jjf

    Almost every front?  That must mean you love it because you haven’t completely denounced it, or that you have some liberal wishy-washy shades-of-gray interpretation.  Nothing other than a completely and vocal denunciation will do!

  55. Pat


    Do you denounce Antifa?

  56. Mar

    Gee Pat, the article from Arizona was written by a person who is as crazy the people he is writing about.
    But the guy who parked his car on the bridge will be taken care of by my County. We don’t put up with law breakers here, unlike in liberal cities.

  57. Mar

    Did you hear about that massive Chinese virus outbreak among the bikers who went to Sturgis for their motorcycle rally?
    Yeah, I haven’t heard of one either.

  58. jjf

    Mar, how would you hear about it?  The bikers came from all over.  They returned to “all over.”  You’re reading the individual reports from “all over” that described contact tracing that suggests it came from Sturgis?

  59. Mar

    Reading comprehension messing with your mind again, jjf?

  60. Kevin Scheunemann


    Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization, of course I do.

    Nord and JJF will not. They perceive Antifa as heros.

  61. Pat


    Do you denounce Boogaloo?

  62. jjf

    Mar, maybe it is related to your writing abilities.  If COVID was spread at Sturgis, how would you know?

  63. Kevin Scheunemann


    I denounce any actions that are illegal by Qanon, all I have seen from Qanon is just crazy people writing crazy things that I think are really stupid.

    What actions of Boogaloo do you want denounced?

    See how easy this is Nord?

  64. Mar

    “If COVID was spread at Sturgis, how would you know?”
    Gee, I don’t know. Contact tracing? A large amount of bikers dying or going to the hospital? A large breakout in Sturgis?

  65. Mar

    Pat, you have such an obsession with Boogaloo. You ever been jilted in love by one of the members?

  66. Kevin Scheunemann


    Of course that is awful. I say string ’em up with Antifa thugs.

    Now, will you denounce Antifa thugs and other awful leftist terrorists?

    Nord will not….leftist thugs are heros to him.

  67. jjf

    Mar, so if you googled “sturgis covid outbreaks” what did you see?

  68. Mar

    Oh wow, 22 cases out 250,000 people plus the people who worked the rally and people who live in Sturgis, population of about 7000. And they could have gotten it in other places besides in Sturgis.
    Not exactly an outbreak.
    And the experts are wrong again.

  69. Pat

    “ Now, will you denounce Antifa thugs and other awful leftist terrorists?”

    I answered that question long ago.

  70. Mar

    Wow, Pat is playing Le Roi’s game.
    Wonder if they are related.
    Wonder if they are the same person?
    Wonder which planet they are from

  71. Pat

    Not playing anyone’s game. I directly answered that question previously. I can’t help it if you don’t remember. Go back and look it up for yourself if your not too lazy.

  72. Mar

    Nah, let’s hear you say it again, if you are not too lazy, LeRoiPat.

  73. jjf

    Again, Mar, you are the one asserting that you hadn’t heard of any cases.  I point you to some, and ask you how you’d hear about the correlation for all the people who’d gone to Sturgis and then returned to their home towns…  and all you want to do is deny.

  74. Pat



  75. Mar

    I realize, jjf, you are in denial about most of Chinese virus. You were wrong on just about everything.
    And I can see you are extremely disappointed that virtually no one got Chinese virus at the rally, if any at all.
    But the sun will come up tomorrow. Maybe there will be more cases you can cheer for.
    But you have to agree that wearing a mask is pretty much useless.

  76. Mar

    Why what, LeRoiPat?

  77. dad29

    Q has questions!!

    If the people who sold us to the Chinese faced criminal investigations, they could end up in jail or worse. Senator Dianne Feinstein, whom Q has claimed is a key player, does not welcome inquiry into why she employed a Chinese spy for 20 years.  Hillary Clinton may not want probes into how top secret information came into the hands of the Chinese during her term as head of the State Department that enabled the murders of American intelligence assets in China. Nancy Pelosi is not eager to discuss her former communications director, who is a registered lobbyist for the Chinese Communist Party. And, of course, no Democrats are demanding investigations into how Chinese spies instigated “The Big Hack,” which used a microchip to infiltrate America’s top companies, Department of Defense data centers, CIA operations, and Navy warships.

    Very good questions, indeed!

  78. Pat

    Duh………..The ex-teacher who was unable to hold a job can’t remember what he just said. Go figure. Put the bottle down and sober up.

  79. Mar

    Shows once again LeRoiPat why you are a patient at Mendota.
    Sure hope you get better and are released soon.

  80. Kevin Scheunemann


    You denounced Antifa thugs? I don’t believe it.


  81. Pat


    I denounce all illegal activity by any one who is or was motivated by Antifa. I hold the exact same denouncement for all left wing, right wing, in between wing, Presidential administration personal, the President, his family, friends, and associates. Lock them up.

  82. Mar

    Gee, Pat, was that so hard?

  83. Pat

    I didn’t say it for you, Mar. Copy it for future reference.

  84. Kevin Scheunemann


    You are rational about good and evil. That is awesome. Perhaps it is because you are more classical liberal.

    Liberals like nord and jjf are not.

    Modern day liberalism likes evil in name of tolerance.

  85. Mar

    So, Pat, what is your obsession with Boogaloo?
    Are you a jilted lover of one of the members?
    Were you kicked out of the group because of your problem?
    Or do you have OCD with them?

  86. Le Roi du Nord

    You sure are a slow learner, or a non-reader.


  87. Mar

    “You sure are a slow learner, or a non-reader.”
    jjf and Randall, are you going to call out Le Roi for being uncivil?

  88. jjf

    I will, soon after you stop saying I’m a racist.  Or maybe after you stop saying “China virus.”

  89. Mar

    So, I guess you are ok with uncivil behavior.
    As far as you being racist, I pretty much proved it.
    You may deny it, but your views are racist.
    And I used your own words to prove it.

  90. Kevin Scheunemann


    Will you denounce the criminal traitor, specifically?

    Ot the current leftist rioters in Kenosha?

    Ot Jacob blake who was wanted on a sexual assault warrant?

    Or Evers, who threw law enforcement under the bus trying to being the sexual assault fugitive in?

    Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

  91. jjf

    Mar, you truly sound ridiculous.

  92. dad29

    China virus.  Kung Flu.  Sino Sinus Syphilis.  CCP Flu.

  93. jjf

    There’s your shibboleth, right up there with the MAGA mark on your forehead.

    Is this somehow connected to your thoughts about racism and prejudice? :

    There is also a distinction between “prejudice” and “racism.”  Prejudice is not a serious problem; it’s natural to look at “the other” with suspicion and it goes ALL directions.  Racism is acting on UN-founded hatred or animosity to an entire group defined solely by race.  That may or may not be accompanied by a range of actions from simple disrespect through murder.

  94. Le Roi du Nord

    k :

    I have told you numerous times my position on any and all illegal activity. Are you intentionally forgetful? Unable or unwilling to comprehend the written word? Or just an annoying gnat buzzing around bothering the rational adults?

  95. jjf

    As Dad29’s favorite annoying fruit fly, I denounce Le Roi’s smear of gnats.

    I know there are several experts here in entomology but also experts in drug use.  Perhaps they can help us identify what was in use here.

  96. Pat

    Junior and his girlfriend were definitely hopped up on something. I can’t believe they put him on with those drug induced glassy eyes.

  97. dad29

    Chinese Flu.  Kung Flu.  Sino Sinus-Syphilis.  CCP Flu.  Oriental Express Fever.

  98. jjf

    Uh oh, I’ve gotten inside Dad29’s OODA loop and he’s malfunctioning…  The goblins are at the perimeter!  Buy more ammo!

  99. Kevin Scheunemann


    I asked you specifically.

    Your general denouncement is meaningless.

    I don’t buy that you think this specific guy is a criminal. I think you view Evers statement as heroic, which means it does not apply to your general denouncement.

    I know how awful liberals work.

  100. Le Roi du Nord


    And I answered you. Can you read, or do you choose not to?

    And I don’t buy over priced and low nutritional value DQ products. Now we are even.

  101. Kevin Scheunemann

    But do you denounce Evers awful anti-cop statements?

    Is Jacob Blake a criminal in your eyes?



  102. Pat


    Do you denounce the 2016 Trump campaign of collusion with Russia.

    You can find all the evidence in the GOP lead Senate Intelligence 1000 page investigative report.

  103. Kevin Scheunemann

    What collusion?

    I denounce the millions of dollars the Clinton foudation took from Russia that year.

    Why does Trump get blame for Hillary’s heinous evil?


  104. Le Roi du Nord


    Hmm, confounding k with all those words, all those pages, written by the R lead Senate.

  105. Kevin Scheunemann

    What did Trump do?

    Clinton took millions from Russians, what praytell, is worse collusion than what heinous Hillary did with Russians?

    Why are you running interference for Nord? He needs to answer those questions if he is serious “pro law enforcement”.

  106. Le Roi du Nord


    I’m as serious as a heart attack when it comes to following the law.  You are just that hateful little gnat (apologies to gnats everywhere) flitting around, making noise, and annoying the sane and serious folks.

  107. Jason

    >You are just that hateful little gnat (apologies to gnats everywhere) flitting around, making noise, 


    Oh my god, look at the 12 year old, attacking, bullying, being mean.  I wonder what his intent is here.  Is he just trying to show how superior his position is by demeaning another fellow human?  Such a small person to attack and vilify another!

  108. Mar

    “Do you denounce the 2016 Trump campaign of collusion with Russia.”
    Say goodnight Gracie.

  109. Mar

    “I’m as serious as a heart attack when it comes to following the law.”
    No you’re not.
    If a liberal breaks the law, you ignore it. Like in the Michael Flynn case.
    And I am sure you support the lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, who was caught lying in the President Trump investigation in the 2016 election.
    And my guess is that you were for the arrests of Rosa Parks and MLK. Your old enough to remember that.
    So, you are lying again.

  110. Kevin Scheunemann


    Then you will denounce Evers for his statements AGAINST cops before the investigation was done in Kenosha incident?

    I don’t hear you supporting cops here against this awful governor…who made his statements before the legal investigation. Embolding left wing terrorists in Kenosha.

    Call me all the names you want. I will continue to expose your liberal hypocrisy until you start addressing specifics.

    How about it, will you say what Evers did was wrong? Or is he still your hero?

  111. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat and Nord certainly ignored this thread fast.

    Suggestion: stay off those false liberal media narratives and you would not look so foolish repeating falsehoods.

  112. Pat


    I’m not ignoring anything. I don’t understand what you’re attempting to assume??

  113. Kevin Scheunemann

    You were beating your chest about false Trump collusion with Russia.

    I point out Clinton foundation collusion and ask what Trump did that was worse than that….


    You should be talking about heinous behavior of Democrats…nothing.

    Just thought your covering attack for a Nord was weak.

  114. Pat

    I’m not aware of a Senate Intelligence report on the Clinton Foundation. I’d be more than happy to read it. Could you provide a link please?

    You would see the Trump campaign Russian collusion in chapter 5 of the recent Senate report.

  115. Pat

    I misspoke. Volume 5.

  116. Kevin Scheunemann


    I asked what in the report was worse than what Clinton Foundation did in terms of open bribes?


    Thought so. Focus on real evil.

  117. Pat

    I’m sure there was an investigation into the bribes. Could you provide a link to the Senate Intelligence report to that please.

    I provided a link to the Intel report for which I referenced. You do know how to read, right?

  118. Pat

    How’s the Donald J. Trump Foundation doing these days?
    The Clinton Foundation has an A- rating.

  119. Merlin

    From the first page to the last there’s nothing bipartisan about Vol. 5. It’s just like any other political document written by politicians. Participants sought to mold the investigation for political advantage and the rather extensive redacting and “dissenting opinions” at the end reflect their desire to provide a skewed synopsis. Even Warner and Rubio’s forwards are polar opposites.

    At least one of the ranking members is almost certain to be exposed for his efforts in steering early IC community efforts against the Trump Administration, and the later coverup, when the Durham/Barr report finally gets written. Won’t be one of the poor saps indicted, but a string puller all the same.


  120. Kevin Scheunemann


    Even the clinton foundation does not dispute they took millions from the Russians.

    I asked,in the giant waste of time report you refer to, what is worse than what the Clinton foundation openly did, and got aways with because of the leftist deep state problem?

    Just point.   Can’t point to anything worse.  thought so.   Focus on real evil…radical leftism taking money from foreign governments to try and destroy this great nation.

  121. Le Roi du Nord

    Hey “conservatives”, what do you think about household voting?

  122. Kevin Scheunemann


    You still have not answered questions:

    Will you denounce Evers anti-cop statement?

    Is Jacob blake a criminal in your eyes?

  123. Mar

    Yadda yadda yadda Le Roi.
    Old and irrelevant news.
    Just like you:
    Old and irrelevant.

  124. Kevin Scheunemann


    Crickets are chirping.

    For an alleged pro law enforcement guy, you have to be dragged to say the simplest, most meager pro law enforcement thing.

    Your silent support of Evers is anti-cop and evil.

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