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1637, 09 Dec 19

Governor Evers Rejects Christian Symbols

Why does Evers hate Christianity so much? Would he do this for a celebration of Yom Kippur or Ramadan?

MADISON, Wis. (AP) – Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers praised scientists as he lit the state Capitol’s “holiday tree.” Meanwhile, a high school choir sang Christmas carols.

The Friday ceremony was an odd juxtaposition of the two sides of the state’s debate over the tree’s symbolism.

Former Republican Gov. Scott Walker declared the tree a Christmas tree in 2011 but Evers, a Democrat, started calling it a “holiday tree” this year and sought submissions of science-themed ornaments.

The governor lit the evergreen following a speech in which he called it “a celebration of science.” A choir sang Christmas carols, including “”O Christmas Tree” and “O Come All Ye Faithful.”

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1637, 09 December 2019

50 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Evers is about cowing to the leftist anti-Christian bigots.

    Awful. Just awful.

    I’m surprised his head did not explode when he heard “O come all ye Faithful”.

     

  2. dad29

    I’m surprised his head did not explode when he heard “O come all ye Faithful”.

    That was actually the choir’s plan.  Sadly, it failed.

    By the way, Evers is merely the sock-puppet of Maggie Gau, who is “chief of staff.”  She is doing the talking and the acting through Tokin’Tony.

  3. Mar

    A celebration of science??? What the hell does that mean?

  4. MjM

    …but it’s not a religion.

  5. jjf

    Let me follow the logic:  He’s not using your religion’s symbols in exactly the way you want, so therefore he must hate your religion?

  6. Kevin Scheunemann

    Bruce Jenner is a “he”.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    Christians appropriated the Yule tree/log/boughs tradition from a number of pagan cultures. Amazing that modern day Christian cults would be upset.

  8. Kevin Scheunemann

    The Christian haters are out in full force with their lies again.

    Awful. Just awful.

  9. jjf

    It’s so unfair to the Christians!

  10. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    I don’t hate anybody.  I may feel pity for folks like you, but I surely don’t hate you.  Grow up.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    I love it when liberals lie about Chritian tradition, things you say, and are constantly dishonest, but “don’t hate”.

    False witness is vile hate.

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    “False witness is vile hate”.  If that is true how do you feel about our POTUS, who is well over 14000 lies since in office?  Or does that fact that he is a R absolve him of your condemnation?

    And where did I lie about “Chritian tradition” ( should we assume you meant christian tradition?).  The history behind the yule tree/log/boughs is easy to research were you interested in learning something new.

  13. jjf

    See, Le Roi, when Kevin thinks one of us is bearing false witness, then we aren’t allowed to talk until we repent.  But Trump is allowed to talk and tweet.  It’s only fair.  “False witness” is the new evolution and abortion.  Every thread is about Kevin’s assessment of false witness – in others.

  14. Kevin Scheunemann

    Can’t have a conversation with the hopelessly dishonest liberals.

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    Probably the only conversation k can have is with the voices in his head.

    Now where did I lie about “Chritian tradition” ?  Or did you make that up?

  16. Kevin Scheunemann

    Learn the religious symbolism of the Christmas tree…

    https://www.thespruce.com/legends-explaining-the-christmas-symbols-1254302

    For you to “pagan Christmas up” and destroy the Christian symbols on the tree is an awful “cultural appropriation” by godless heathens against Christians.

    Are you ready to apologize for your false witness yet on that quote you misrepresented without evidence?

  17. Mar

    So, what does science have to do with the Christmas holiday? They can have a science tree anytime if the year.
    This is just lunacy from liberals, who do believe science is a religion.
    J6st plain stupidity from 1 Termer Evers.

  18. Kevin Scheunemann

    Mar,

    It’s about putting Christians in the closet. Godless liberals love to make any Christian speech 2nd class. It is simple vile hate.

    There is no tolerance of Christian speech with godless liberals.

  19. jjf

    Wow, Kevin, you need to learn about the word “retrocon.”  You’re killing me.  Even the story you linked to, it gives the names of the three kings, then it links to the Wikipedia article about the magi that explains just how much isn’t in the Bible about them.  Is that “false witness” too?  So all these wise men from other countries came to see him and bring gifts… and then what happened?  Everyone forgot about this?

    You’re free to believe whatever you like…  just don’t think the government should be using tax dollars to evangelize to the rest of us.

  20. Kevin Scheunemann

    jjf,

    There is no tax dollar difference in the name of the Capitol tree.

    Another dishonst statement by you.

     

  21. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Your link provided nothing but pictures of tacky decorations.

    Here for you enlightenment is this (from Science):

    “Long before Christianity appeared, people in the Northern Hemisphere used evergreen plants to decorate their homes, particularly the doors, to celebrate the Winter Solstice. On December 21 or December 22, the day is the shortest and the night the longest. Traditionally, this time of the year is seen as the return in strength of the sun god who had been weakened during winter — and the evergreen plants served as a reminder that the god would glow again and summer was to be expected.

    The solstice was celebrated by the Egyptians who filled their homes with green palm rushes in honor of the god Ra, who had the head of a hawk and wore the sun as a crown. In Northern Europe, the Celts decorated their druid temples with evergreen boughs which signified everlasting life. Further up north, the Vikings thought evergreens were the plants of Balder, the god of light and peace. The ancient Romans marked the Winter Solstice with a feast called Saturnalia thrown in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture, and, like the Celts, decorated their homes and temples with evergreen boughs.”

    Additional knowledge never hurt anyone.

  22. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You are awful, trying to marginalize Christmas as a Christian holiday celebrating birth of Christ.

    Stop it with the godless hate already.

    Just because you dance around the fire, raking leaves, and some Egyption dances around the fire and raked leaves 2500 years ago in a pagan ceremony does not mean your activity today is nothing more than hideous dancing and yardwork today. No one would be claiming it to be a Pagan ceremony. So your arguments are dishonest. Even the godless do some things Christian things from time to time. That does not mean a divine holiday has roots in your godless heathenism.

  23. jjf

    Here we go again.  Kevin demands special treatment.  His particular Christian wording must be applied or he’s being suppressed!

    Put it on private property, you can call it whatever you like.

  24. Mar

    And Le Roi, you were there to witness these traditions?

  25. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,

    Why is it your job to insure marginalization of Christians on public property? Unless you hate.

  26. Mar

    Well, Kevin, jjf also doesn’t want little minority and poor children to be exposed to religious values, even with the blessing of their parents, through school choice.

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    No, I’m not awful at all.  I am just trying to clear up your misconceptions about the origins of the yule tree.  Nor did I deny that christians have appropriated the yule tree for their own purposes and traditions.

    And no, I don’t hate anyone, not even you, as I have told you numerous times.  Too bad you can’t say the same.

    And for the sake of full transparency:  I have planted, pruned, cut, sold and given away 1000’s of yule/holiday/christmas/xmas trees and boughs of 8 different species from an operation started by my grandfather in the early 50’s.   I would even give you one if you were brave enough to come to northern WI and pick it up.  And you can call it whatever you want, and assign whatever mythology to it that you prefer.

    Have a great Holiday Season !

  28. jjf

    Mar, don’t play dumb.  You know my position, right?  You want to send your kids to religious school?  Go for it.  Just don’t ask the public to subsidize the cost.  Even I went to SS Peter & Paul in Milwaukee, but my parents paid for it.

  29. Mar

    Well, some families can’t afford it. We give grant’s to other religious organizations, why not schools.
    The Salvation Army is 1 good example.

  30. dad29

    I went to SS Peter & Paul in Milwaukee

    You failed GRADE school?

  31. Kevin Scheunemann

    If none of you “hate” as you claim, then it should be easy to agree on this:

    “Evers is wrong to hate Christians”.

    Don’t all agree at once.

  32. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Except I don’t agree that he hates christians, nor jews, muslims,  druids,  agnostics, pastafarians, or anyone else with beliefs differing from yours.  Not even you.  You can take care of all the hating.

  33. Kevin Scheunemann

    So Evers putting Christian’s in the closet is not hate?

    I am told all the time by liberals putting antine in the closet is hate.

    Keep up on your PC religion….this is basic commandment.

  34. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    You are free to believe whatever you want, but in no possible situation does Evers hate christians. Not even if he put antine in the closet, whom ever that maybe.

    No religions, no commandments, no PC. You are making stuff up again.

  35. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    I am glad to know putting you and your godless heathenism in the closet is not hate.

    Noted for future reference.

  36. jjf

    No, Dad29, like many ex-Catholics who are no longer welcome at your coffee klatsch, I got better over time.  Can I explode your head more?  At one point I even filled out the application to enter the seminary, as the novitiates thought I might make a good priest.

  37. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Before you puff out your chest and pop your buttons, explain who or what antine is, and why you would want to put he/she/it in the closet? Or is that your personal name for your clown suit?

    Thanks. Have a great Holiday Season!

  38. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord

    “Anyone”. Auto fill replaced word. I can’t believe you could not figure that out in original context. However it was fun to see you twist on it with your contorted liberal reality.

  39. Kevin Scheunemann

    ….but I am glad we can put your godless heathenism in closet in future and we have established it is not “hate”!

    This is going to be fun!

    I will shorten it to: “put your godless heathenism away”, when you exhibit those tendencies we should not infect the world with.

  40. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Unlike you, I don’t assume to know what your alternative spellings mean. With your fluid and ever changing definitions no rational person would ever presume to know what you mean. That is why I asked.

    And you right ahead, believe what you want, however misguided those beliefs may be.

    Peace

  41. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    I think we have made progress. You don’t think putting Christian expression un closet is not hate.

    I will be putting your godless attitudes in the closet from time to time…remember it is not hate.

    Happy to comply with PC commandments.

  42. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    If closets are your new trigger, go for it.  You can come of the closet if you want, stay in the closet, or hang your coat in the closet.  Your choice.

    And as I have told you numerous times, I don’t hate anybody.  I’ll leave that to you.

  43. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Well you seem to hate it when I say Creation, earth 6000-10,000 years old, Jesus.

    3 triggers for you in one sentence.

  44. Le Roi du Nord

    No k, I don’t hate anything, I wasn’t brought up that way.  That may be common in your hate filled life, but certainly not in mine.  What I am doing is an honest effort to cure ignorance, alternative facts, and knee-jerk ideology wherever and whenever I come across it.

    Having said that, you are wrong at 6000 years old (your original claim), or your revised 10,000 years.  The earth is far older than that.  And I have sent you all the information and scientific research you need to reach the same conclusion.  I can’t make you smarter, that is a choice you have to make on your own.  But I can say with all sincerity that I tried.

  45. Kevin Scheunemann

    You have not sent squat.

    You have no evidence on your origin belief. Worse, you pretend to have data you cannot find.

    Not only are you supremely arrogant but painfully, cringeworthy, ignorant.

    I posted one simple question of reason, and you cannot even come close to answering it.

    Where did all material leading up to Big Bang come from?

    Simple question. Try holding yourself to your own standard for once.

    But keep on being dishonest, it is what you do best.

  46. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    I have provided links, attachments, and a list of authors on numerous occasions to help you move forward into the light of knowledge.  Once again, I can’t make you smarter, you have to want to do that on your own.

  47. Kevin Scheunemann

    …but you have not answered the question.

    You can’t even articulate a BS answer.

  48. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Way back when, I did give you a BS answer, and you weren’t smart enough to pick up on it.  That is how I know you haven’t read any of the material or authors that I have sent you.

    You are sooooo predicable.

  49. Kevin Scheunemann

    I knew it was BS, so that is why I am waiting for an answer.

  50. Le Roi du Nord

    Hah!!

    If you had know it was BS you would have been screaming bloody murder about fascist socialist marxist communist baby killing christian hating climate changing liberals.  That is your MO each and every time.  But since you didn’t read any of the items, you didn’t say a peep.

    You are soooo predictable.

    So, smart guy, which one was it, and who was the author?  Hint: it didn’t come from the Onion.

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