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0841, 18 Oct 19

War in Northern Mexico

Authorities tried to arrest El Chapo’s son, who is believed to be running the cartel now. All hell broke loose.

The state government said Mr Guzmán was found in a house by a police patrol on a routine search. It said cartel members subsequently launched the huge attack in an attempt to seize him back from the authorities. Fighters also attacked security forces in other parts of Culiacán.

Witnesses described scenes of panic in the city, a stronghold for the Sinaloa cartel, as families with small children fled from gunfire.

“No one knows what is going on but everyone is afraid and they have told us to not come in to work tomorrow,” Ricardo González, a city resident, told AP.

Footage on social media showed a pick-up truck with a machine gun mounted on the back, in scenes reminiscent of a war zone. Other footage showed families scrambling to take cover under cars and in shops as gunfire roared. In one video, a girl asked her father: “Why are they shooting bullets?”

Sinaloa state’s head of security, Cristobal Castañeda, told the Televisa network that two people had been killed and 21 injured, according to preliminary information.

Pictures showing what appeared to be dead bodies on the streets suggest the death toll could rise.

Some police officers were wounded, local officials said, but would not provide further details.

As fighting brought the city to a standstill, the Sinaloa state government said an unknown number of inmates had escaped from the Aguaruto prison.

It said it was “working to restore calm and order” and called on residents to “remain calm, stay off the streets and be very attentive to official advisories on the evolving situation”.

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0841, 18 October 2019

28 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Godless Marxism in it’s full glory.

  2. Le Roi du Nord

    Hmmm, by all accounts El Chapo and family, and all the cartels, are pretty aggressive capitalists.

  3. jjf

    It’s just Kevin’s reflex.  He can’t explain why or what he means.  He probably insults his suppliers the same way when the cross him.

  4. Mar

    While I agree with Le Roi that the cartels are capitalists, this is also what you get with a liberal national government.
    While the cartels might have an fairly hard time getting their drugs into the US, they have no problems returning to Mexico.
    I’ve been to Tijuana a few times and the Mexicans don’t stop to see who you are. They don’t check IDs, they don’t even stop you, well, maybe 1 in a hundred cars and trucks.
    And this what liberals want with their open borders.

  5. dad29

    To call them “capitalists” is a category error, and with distinctly Marxist-propaganda overtones.

    They are criminals.  Look up the term and learn something.

  6. MjM

    Mar claims: “I’ve been to Tijuana a few times and the Mexicans don’t stop to see who you are…”

    Unless they are the drunken crooked Policia.   Cost me a crispy $50 on-the-spot “fine”, which the nice, stumbling, 45-carrying officer shoved under his watch band.

    I suggest you take the advice of an gentile, elderly Mexican fellow I once worked with: “Oh, No! You no go Tijuana!“.

    Wish he had told me sooner.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    dud:

    Capitalists and criminals aren’t mutually exclusive.  See Madoff, Manafort, Cohen, trump et al.

  8. Merlin

    Back in the day the only ID you needed to cross the border into Mexico at Tijuana was U.S. currency. Even then Tijuana was a very nasty place, but if you had money they had hospitality. If you were gracious enough to go home once you ran out of money, the experience tended to have a better outcome.

  9. dad29

    LR, you remain confused.

    There is a difference between capitalists who turn into criminals (Joe Kennedy Sr.), and criminals who happen to have money.

    Unless you are incapable of making distinctions.

    As to Mexico:  this morning’s news is that Mexican SF have arrived in the affected state.  They have announced that they are ‘not here to take on the cartel, but only to protect the citizens.’

    Uh-huh.

    This will be a critical test for AMLO’s government, to say the least.

    And finally, at Ft Bliss, the city across the border was known as “Whore’s Ass.”  Some things never change.

  10. Le Roi du Nord

    No dud, I have it right.  You can be a capitalist and a criminal at the same time.

  11. dad29

    Proving that you STILL don’t know how to read for meaning.

    But you’re a (D) inclined guy, meaning visuals work on you rather than text.

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    None of your nonsense changes the meaning or intent of my original statement, “El Chapo and family, and all the cartels, are pretty aggressive capitalists”.    Spin that however you want.

  13. dad29

    No it doesn’t change your statement, which is simply wrong.

    No spin there, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy.

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    Well dud, I disagree.  And you have done nothing to show that I am wrong.

  15. Mar

    MJM, I’ve been to Tijuana 3 times in the past 6 months, with Arizona license plates on my SUV. Never had an encounter with the police or their border patrol.
    Perhaps you flaunt your wealth?

  16. Jason

    I did some work back around 2004/5 where we would stay at a hotel in the US and then drive across every day at Nogales which is south of Tucson. Three trips of two weeks each. I was stopped once driving into Mexico in that time. We never had a wait of less than 30 minutes and often it was more than 1 hour wait to get back into the US.

  17. jjf

    Dad29, surely you’ve noticed that Kevin makes category errors in most of his comments.

    Kevin wants to blame the existence of El Chapo on Marxist politicians in Mexico, but he doesn’t look into our country to see the demand for the drugs they’re selling?

    Would you care to slice and dice whether Robin Hood was more a capitalist or more a Marxist, as compared to El Chapo?  Criminals, sure…  but you can also categorize their methods of doing business.  Criminals often buy support in their communities by giving hand-outs, too, much like politicians.

  18. Kevin Scheunemann

    jjf,

    Of course Marxists need to push drugs.

    Do you think a sober, rational, person would sign onto the torture that is American leftism?

    If you think so, please seee me for an immediate drug test.

  19. jjf

    Push drugs?  Who is consuming the drugs?

  20. Kevin Scheunemann

    jjf,

    Largely godless American leftists who like to prop up Marxist drug dealers.  It’s a symbiotic relationship.

     

  21. dad29

    Frankly, teaching epistemology to you, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy, would be akin to teaching ballet to raccoons.  I won’t waste the time.

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    “Marxist drug dealers”

    If that had any semblance of truth those dealers would be giving away the drugs.  Just another example of putting a label on something you don’t understand.

  23. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Marxists never give anything away truly. They just take, take take…just like…gasp… drug dealers.

  24. jjf

    Well, actually…  drug dealers like to sell and sell.  Pretend it’s like dessert.  If the market speaks and you see the custard shop down the street selling a great deal of cookie-dough custard, you can bet that you will want DQ to be selling a cookie-dough low-fat ice-cream-like product, too.

  25. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,

    I suggest getting off drugs before you comment.

    Comparing Marxist drug dealers to a competitive capitalist industry is like comparing a sewer cesspool to bottled water in terms of purity.

  26. jjf

    The drug dealers are Marxists?  I thought you were talking about Mexico’s government, and your logic was that because they were Marxist, that’s why they can’t capture El Chapo’s son.  Go on, tell me why Mexican drug dealers are Marxists.

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    Drug dealers, be they Mexican cartels, or New York mafia, are extreme examples of “competitive capitalist industry”.  More so than even custard store owners.

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