Once again, we see the same pattern. Some “bombshell” report, backed by anonymous sources, is hyped as the nail that will finally seal Trump’s political coffin. Lefties and anti-Trump righties trumpet the news. After 24-48 hours, it is shown to be false. Haven’t y’all learned yet? Aren’t you a little embarrassed that your chain can be yanked so easily?
The office of Special Counsel Robert Mueller has called the bombshell BuzzFeed report claiming President Donald Trump told his former lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress is false.
The special counsel’s office issued a rare public statement disputing the accuracy of a news report saying that Trump told his personal attorney Cohen to lie to Congress.
Can’t wait to see Pat’s dripping disdain for this fake news, given how much of a foam he got over a standing or sitting reporting issue last week.
My guess is: Pat shows no disdain here.
An obvious question .
If you beleive Mueller now , will you beleive him later ?
Obviously, MHM! Owen just wants to wait for the full investigation. That’s why he didn’t post anything about the Buzzfeed story, and posted a funny pro-red-meat story about legumes instead.
If you don’t believe him now, will you later?
I believe him now. Do you think you have enough facts in play to know exactly what Mueller thinks was inaccurate and how? Until he’s done, we won’t what evidence and testimony he’s gathered, nor do we know his conclusions.
If Buzzfeed feels secure reporting a story, and believes their sources are good, let them speak up and join the fray.
Meanwhile we have a President and others who are perfectly content with spouting outright falsehoods because they think it’ll swing reality in their favor.
Who are you going to believe, me or your own eyes?
BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate.
That doesn’t sound like an outright denial. It leaves a lot of wiggle room.
It could be that BuzzFeed is way off, or they have a few small facts wrong. We will just have to wait and see what the report ends up saying. BuzzFeed News is surprisingly a good outlet for news usually. Much like the National Enquirer, sometimes they get the strange big story.
“given how much of a foam he got over a standing or sitting reporting issue last week.”
BwaaaHaaaaHaaHaa. The only one foaming and crapping his pants was was you Kevin. You asked for “just one” example. I provided a truthful example. And now you bear false witness by lying about what happened. How un-Christian of you.
PAt,
So you denounce buzzfeed as a news source forever now that they have worse fake news?
kEviN,
Still crapping your pants huh.
Pat,
Just disappointed you can’t “man up” and denounce buzzfeed with the same amount of hyperbole.
Guess I had too much hope for you to be consistent.
KEvIN,
Put on your big boy underwear and quit whining about being owned.
Pat,
Owned?
Hardly.
Just trying to get out of you 1 news outlet that meets your hyperbolic standard.
You bitch about other people’s news sources but then fail to leave a “Pat approved news source list”.
Until you do that, and we can hyper-scrutinize where you get your news from, the only one that got “owned” was you
kEViN,
Still can’t handle it. The only one “bitching” is you. Move on, it’ll be ok.
Pat,
Just trying to be educated.
What needs source meets your critical standard you use on others?
I can’t find the unicorn news network on my dial.
“News source”.
“Just trying to be educated.”
I don’t believe that can be possible.
Have yourself a hamberder and chill.
Pat,
I was thirsting for your wisdom, and you punted!
So disappointing.
KEviN,
Not a punt. I’m smart enough to know when I’d be wasting my breath, and everyone else’s time, again.
But, by all means, continue.
Pat,
Then I’ll just go with “arrogant elitist”.
Ripping others for news sources, while failing to provide even 1 that meets your own standard.
Buzzfeed is now off your acceptable list.
kEvIN,
“Then I’ll just go with “arrogant elitist”“
I can accept you identifying yourself as an “arrogant elitist”. That pretty much hits the nail on the head. Please, feel free to continue.
Oh Pat,
I’ve already told you Daily Wire meets my standard for news.
You have not coughed 1 outlet up that caters to your elitist news gathering attitude, that is what makes you arrogant.
KEviN,
“I’ve already told you Daily Wire meets my standard for news.”
We know what your standards are. And so???
Pat,
My standard is anything that truthfully battles the forces of liberal intersectional cancer on our society.
KeViN,
What ever that truth is. ✌️
Here’s and example of a fake headline.
“Here’s How Much Democrats’ Refusal To Fund Border Security Cost America During Shutdown”
It should have read, “Here’s how much Trumps refusal to accept the same bipartisan bill, presented on December 22nd, to keep the government open, cost America during shutdown”.
Trump did say he’d gladly own the shut down.
Oh Pat,
The first headline is just fine.
I am disappointed with Trump for caving into the USA haters Pelosi and Schumer.
But Kevin,
That first headline is not factually accurate. It shows extreme bias by attempting to deflect blame.
Pat,
Who’s deflecting?
Pelosi is to blame for being pro drug dealer, pro human trafficker, pro MS13 by not wanting a wall!
Stop blaming the guy wanting to clean up liberal perverts.
Kevin,
But Trump said he’d take the blame for the shut down. That’s the absolute truth.
PAt,
That can be “absolute truth”, but the first headline is still valid.
He shut it down to get border Wall funding, Pelosi impeded that Wall because she supports free flow of rapists, child traffickers, gun runners, gang members, and drugs.
They both can be true. You just hate first headline because you hate Trump. Check your hate trump, hate America bias, first, before you comment.
Kevin,
But Trump shut the government down. It wasn’t the Democrats. Trumps shutdown cost us tax payers billions. The headline in The Daily Wire bears false witness to what the absolute truth is. And we all know you’re a stickler for the absolute truth, and accept nothing but absolute truth.
The Democrats passed something like10 bills, which included security, and Mitch McConnell was too afraid to vote on any of them. If Trump vetoed, the Senate could have overwrote it. Sounds like the Democrats we’re trying to end the shutdown.
Pat,
You poor propaganda victim.
Trump made 3-4 overtures last week to end shutdown and Democrats did not even want to discuss because it included the Wall.
This is all about Democrats opposing a Wall to stop rapists, child trafficking, and MS-13.
I’m trying to find a cure for your propaganda sickness.
Kevin,
The absolute true is Trump shut the government down and cost tax payers billions. The government didn’t have to be shut down. The Daily Wire headline bears false witness to the absolute truth.
Pat,
Trump was always willing to avoid the shutdown—-all he wanted was the wall.
We didn’t get the walk because Pelosi is pro child traffickers moving freely along areas where there is no wall.
Stop falling victim to those that enable child traffickers. Makes you look foolish.
Kevin,
Trump shut the government down. Trump said he’d take the blame. Of course he also said Mexico would pay for the wall over and over again. The Daily Wire’s headline blames Democrats for the cost of the shutdown. That is not the absolute truth.
For the previous two years the Republicans controlled both houses and the Presidency. If the wall was such a priority, why wasn’t it taken care of in those previous two years? Why wait until the Democrats took over theHouse of Representatives?
Pat,
Are you offended child trafficking supporting Democrats get the blame for shutdown?
They opposed the Wall, Trump said he was shutting it down until he got the Wall.
Don’t see an issue with headline, other than your bias toward people that want child trafficking unimpeded along border.
Is that who you are supporting?
Kevin,
I was giving you a current example of The Daily Wire not speaking the absolute truth with their headline.
Pat,
All you gave me was an example of your putrid bias toward supporting politicians that want child traffickers, drug runners, and gang members traveling unimpressed over the border.
I am a bit more sophisticated in my news consumption when it comes to staying away from evil bias.
It’s called being a good human being.
“Unimpeded”, damn spell correct.
Kevin,
No I showed you an example of The Daily Wire not speaking absolute truth. And now, you demonstrating your acceptance of that.
I blame Republicans, over the Democrats, for child trafficking, rape, women having duct tape put over their mouths, shoved in vans and brought over the border. Illegals killing children, opioids, and MS-13, all because Republicans had all the power in the past two years and evidently chose to ignore a situation they had complete control over. It must have not been a problem until the Democrats took over the House of Representatives. Why didn’t all you Trumpazees raise all holy hell over the past two years if you were that concerned. All I heard was crickets.
I start to think Republicans really didn’t care and this is just faux outrage now that Democrats have some power.
Pat,
Term you are looking for is your “absolute bias”.
Trump deserves criticism for not getting Wall done over past 2 years, but he has been busy draining the swamp.
That is a big job and he has been doing well at it.
I’m willing to cut him a break given the liberal evil he faces.
Kevin,
Are you saying the headline is absolute truth?
Pat
I’m saying it is accurate for USA loving, Trump supporting conservatives.
For child trafficking supporting, anti-wall,Democrats….rational thought is first problem we need to address.
“Absolute Truth” is term reserved for God, heaven, hell, soul, sin, and Jesus as the only way to salvation.
Kevin, that “It’s not rape….” line was pushed by the new Congress-slime from Minnesota. She married her brother, by the way.
“Pat” sure has interesting sources, eh?
Kevin,
Okay, I understand now. The truth doesn’t matter for Trumpanzees.
Pat,
“Truth” should not be filtered through godless, child trafficking politician supporting, baby killing liberal advocates….
That just makes one stupid.
It grinds you that you cannot control the narrative.
dad29,
I say, “what sources?” He just spews without any source, even when you beg for the source 10 times.
He is somewhere between CNN and Venezuelan government in terms of propaganda reliability.
Kevin,
“Truth” should not be filtered through godless, child trafficking politician supporting, baby killing liberal advocates….“
Isn’t that Republicans have done for the past two years??
Oh Pat,
Point to the liberal baby killing, abortion advocate, Republicans?
If you find one, I’ll rip them.
Kevin,
That has nothing to do with what we’re talking about. Completely different subject. You
Pat,
Just pointing out why you do not want things filtered through a liberal narrative where racist baby killing is cheered in New York.
I don’t entertain the narrative of sick and twisted liberal ideology.
I attack it, and denounce it.
You ask people to do evil things by adhering to evil liberal narrative.
Kevin,
Nice attempt to deflect from The Daily Wire bearing false witness with their factually inaccurate headline.
Pat,
Or to those of us in real world, without liberal bias, the height of good, accurate, journalism.
Never filter your narrative through an evil, hateful, liberal ideology.
Kevin,
Or to those of us in the “Real World” with neither liberal or conservative bias, seeing things without blinders on.
The Daily Wire is no more than the equivalent of Huffington Post for biased so called journalism. Both serve as propaganda machines bent on skewing perceptions of the vulnerable, fulfilling the purpose of demonizing their opposition.
k:
In your world accuracy and truth are obstacles to your ideology…
Pat,
Then give me your list of “approved” news sources.
Pretty please.
It’s like a big secret with you.
Kevin,
Sorry, I won’t.
Why?
Because you’ve demonstrated an inability for objective reasoning.
Pat,
If you are unwilling to provide a list of “approved” news sources, you will have to be continually offended by my sources.
I am not a coward when it comes disclosing to my news sources.
Why are you a coward about disclosing where you get your news from?
Show some courage.
Kevin,
Whether I provide you with a list of the most objective, and factual news outlets you will still prefer to go to your favorite biased, opinion based sites. So, it would be a waste of my time.
And you mistake what true courage is. “True courage is not the brutal force of vulgar heroes, but the firm resolve of virtue and reason.”
Pat,
“Reason and virtue” would dictate that you share the list.
Keeping reason and virtue to yourself is neither reasonable or virtuous.
Do you have reason and virtue? Or do you just pretend to?
Poor Kevin. Such a wreck after having his beloved Daily Wire outed for fake news. Get over it buddy, it’ll be ok.
Pat,
Keeping “reason and virtue” to yourself?
I enjoyed your elitist, hypocritical, lecture.
You had a real chance to impart knowledge to less fortunate, such as myself.
k:
You are being extremely silly. Folks have been trying to educate you for years on subjects as diverse as CC/GW, evolution, age of the earth, DNR permits, DOT wetland mitigation, scientific method, spelling, U.S. history, political science, …… And in each instance you have refused to acknowledge that someone other than you might have more knowledge and/or experience than you do.. Don’t call anybody a hypocrite without first looking in a mirror..
Nord,
That was one great piece of comedy!
The guy that refuses to believe Watewater permits have mandates in them is going to “educate me” about them?
I did a “spit take” reading that. I came close to declaring you the dumbest person in WI on DNR wastewater permits…until you finally acknowledged they had mandates in them.
Anyway, stop distracting from Pat’s denial of virtue and reason.
Don’t run interference for him. He should impart his wisdom on us all.
Kevin weeps, ““Reason and virtue” would dictate that you share the list.“
Because you say so? You first have to display “reason and virtue”. So far you’ve failed miserably.
Forget other people educating Kevin. I’m still waiting f0r Kevin to explain why his permits are onerous. Did I miss a comment where he explained it all?
Pat,
You claim “reason and virtue” on news sources.
In a civil society, we would discuss that, but for some reason you refuse to have a rational discussion.
That would be “incivility” and “indecency” on your part which does not demonstrate reason or virtue on your part.
Jjf,
Are you trying to be dumber than Nord was on DNR Wastewater permits? Even he has conceded they have onerous unfounded mandates in them.
Kevin,
I spoke of reason and virtue as to courage. You lack both.
I tried discussing in a rational manner, but both parties need to be have the capabilities of rational thought. I’m sorry, but you proven over and over again that your narcissism prevents you from holding any rational discussion.
Pat,
I agree “reason and virtue” takes courage in this totally immoral society driven by liberal intersectionality.
I was not asking you for a ton of courage, like take a stand for marriage under God’s design, just a little teaspoon of courage to name the superiror news sources you find acceptable….so I stop offending you with my excellent news sources.
If someone asked me this question, I would be happy to give a list to those yearning for knowledge.
Kevin, can you point me to the onerous requirements and costs? Where did you explain this?
Kevin,
You’re not “yearning for knowledge”.
Pat,
I am always yearning for knowledge. Even in cases where I disagree, I still yearn for conversation, information, and debate, because I want to understand why my opponent thinks a certain way.
So you would be wrong about my motivations.
You can give your list now, so I can stop offending you with my excellenet sources.
Or as they say, what sort of evidence would ever change your mind, Kevin?
Jjf,
The truth without sick and twisted godless liberal bias.
Kevin,
It’s telling that you use the word “opponent”. You see, I don’t consider you an opponent. You apparently see everything as win/loss.
You are very disingenuous when you state you want to understand your opponent. Your motives are much more narcissistic.
Pat,
I didn’t say you were an opponent, but if you were, you should still be willing to share this specialized list of news sources you think are so great.
Since we are good friends, maybe, I would, possibly, suggest you treat your friends better?
Either with more graciousness about their news sources, or by specifically listing the “good news” sources….to help your friend out?
Kevin,
It’s nice you consider me to be a good friend. I wish I could reciprocate that gesture, but I consider you neither a friend nor foe. Acquaintance would beset describe my relationship to you.
In order for me to consider a person a friend they would have to be trustworthy and honest. I’m sorry but I don’t find those traits in you.
Pat,
Why don’t you engender some trust and honesty, by disclosing what news sources you find acceptable?
I was honest and have trusted to tell you my sources.
Kevin questions, “Why don’t you engender some trust and honesty, by disclosing what news sources you find acceptable?”
I would, but now find that it would bring you too much delight. So I won’t.
Pat,
So we can agree that you found “delight” in your criticism, and scurrilous attacks of the Daily Wire, a fine news source.
At least I disclose my sources….
Kevin,
No, please learn to read.
I said, in regards to your begging me to provide you with names of news sources that I find to be above the low bar that The Daily Wire set, “I would, but now find that it would bring you too much delight.”
Pat,
The reason I would find delight in that is because I would rip your list using your very hyperbolic standard you used against the Daily Wire and it would make you look foolish.
We all know that.
Can we get to a point where we would agree that your hyperbolic standard is utterly ridiculous?
Kevin,
I am now garnering delight over watching you self inflict wedgies over this.
You brought this on yourself by begging for “just one” example of fake news that was propagated by your beloved The Daily Wire. I’ve given you a couple, much to your apparent dissatisfaction.
I’ve even attempted to bring this pissing match to end. But you have “too full of a bladder” to allow this to drop, right?
Don’t allow your narcissism to prevent you from admitting the truth.
“Are you trying to be dumber than Nord was on DNR Wastewater permits? Even he has conceded they have onerous unfounded mandates in them”
k:
That is an unmitigated, bald-faced lie. You are a sinner. Repent !!
Pat: “self-inflicted wedgies” Great turn of phrase.
Pat,
I am here for your entertainment.
Just don’t inflict a standard on others you are not prepared to accept yourself, that is all I ask.
Nord,
So you are back to denying DNR Wastewater permits have costly, damaging, unfunded mandates in them?
If you are: that does make you dumbest person in WI at this point.
“Just don’t inflict a standard on others you are not prepared to accept yourself,”
I don’t.
Pat,
If that was true, you would disclose your list of acceptable news sources.
So don’t pee on my leg and tell me it is a frozen icicle.
Kevin,
As soon as I source a site, as you did, feel free to rip away. I doubt I’ll shed as many tears over it as you have.
“As soon as I source a site, as you did, feel free to rip away.”
Wait! I did source a site, and you did rip it. AOL ring a bell? I almost forgot all about it. The ripping must have not been that memorable.
Pat,
I did rip that one because your source was not verified and all opinion.
Post better sources and that will not happen. May I suggest Daily Wire?
Kevin,
Sure, you can suggest The Daily Wire.
k:
Yes
No
You are still a liar.
k:
By definition an icicle is frozen. That wasn’t a good display of your smartitude, k.
Nord,
I was making a comment on weather, but you take everything so serious.
Lighten up.
First the kittens, then the boots, now the peeing on each other…