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1644, 28 May 17

Rehab For Jihadis

Wow. I didn’t know such a facility existed.

More than 3,300 inmates have “graduated” from the centre since 2005, according to the staff, including 123 who have been in Guantanamo Bay. The success rate, they said, is 80% with the remaining 20% returning to violence. (A similar scheme I visited in Yemen in 2003 had a significantly lower success rate).

Inmates spend a minimum of three months at the centre before being assessed to see if they ready for release, Their overall programme is divided into three parts:

  • A counselling phase, which takes place while they are still in prison and before they arrive at the centre
  • Rehabilitation (“ta’heel” in Arabic) comprising cognitive behaviour programmes, art, culture, religious and sports activities
  • After care. This continues after their release into society

“Welcome to the oasis of wisdom,” said Dr Hamid Al-Shayri, a sociologist from King Saud University. “This is where we try to steer them away from their deviant path so they no longer present a danger to society.”

He said his staff sit with the inmates for several hours a day, but added: “It’s not an easy task to get people to stop hating society and their families.

Art therapy plays a big role in their rehabilitation, according to their art teacher, Dr Badr Al-Razin. He told me that when they first arrive, many of the ex-convicts want to paint crude, violent images, often in red, but over time their images soften and become gentler.

Religious scholars are on hand at all times, men with a profound knowledge of Islam, who try to use this to explain why the aims and actions of violent jihadists are “haram” (forbidden).


1644, 28 May 2017


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Steering them from the “deviant path”?

    That is not possible unless they profess Jesus as their Savior, and convert to grace of Christianity.

    This is like training one to not touch the manure while still being in the middle of a heavy populated barnyard.

    Another thing, why do “religious scholars” have to be on hand to clarify ISLAM IS NOT VIOLENT????? (Unless the “Islam is not a violent religion” claim is a complete lie.). In Islam, there is only one sure way to salvation: violent jihad. Outside of violent jihad, Islam teaches you that you can be best of best Muslim, covert millions, give to poor, pray always, build mosques, etc. and Allah can still send you to hell! Islam does not teach forgiveness and grace of Christ. That is the problem!

    Muslims are depressed because, unlike true Christians, they have no sure hope of salvation outside of violent jihad….which Christians know is a sure ticket to hell.

    The staff at this jihad sausage factory must be very contorted about the Quran all the time to pull this off. Even the child molester founder of Islam said violent jihad is only sure way to salvation in Islam.

    Embracing a false religion of a child molester, criminal, barbarian, murderer is the problem,

  2. Le Roi du Nord

    “That is not possible unless they profess Jesus as their Savior, and convert to grace of Christianity”.


  3. billphoto

    20% recidivism is still 660 radical Islamic terrorists which I think is 660 too many.  Mr. Scheunemann’s idea to convert these jihadis to Christianity would certainly be a solution abeit one that most likely won’t happen but if all were at least exposed to the teaching of Jesus, some could choose to follow a new path.  The only nonsense I see here is anyone dismissing the idea.  As another option, perhaps some could be exposed to politics and run for office every two years professing empathy for the taxpayers.

  4. Paul

    I see the white nationalist troll barfed up some anti-Christian garbage.

  5. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’m concerned your eternal retirement plan is going to be really hot….it will also have plenty of jihadists in the same pit.

    You could strive, by grace of Holy Spirit, for something more than your average jihadist eternity.

    Kevin S.

  6. Le Roi du Nord


    Don’t worry about me.  At the end of the day we will both be in the same spot.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann


    What an awful thing for you to say.

    In the light of the eternal, not saying I am perfect, I am simply covered by the grace of Christ to erase any evil I may have done.     You openly choose to live outside that “coverage” of Christ’s grace.

    You are not covered under the “eternal ins. policy” of Christian grace when you reject it.

    We will not be in same place….like Muslims, you have a snake oil travel agent called Satan.   You buy into the bad travel plan from a bad agent.   I could tell you to replace the lying eternal travel agent you embrace, but you seem resolute to buy the bilge from the bad agent.

    So long as we have 2 different travel agents in the eternal, we will not be in same place.  I desire you, as a Christian, to get a better eternal travel agent: but Christ’s grace is a free gift, only you can stop throwing that gift away.  That is the only possibility for you to be in the same place as me.

    If you come to know the grace of Christ, when you get to heaven, I’ll be in the choir section, in case you are looking for me.

  8. Paul

    Le Roi du Bore thinks that there’s a white nationalist heaven, Kevin.

  9. Le Roi du Nord


    Until you can provide proof of those claims you are the snake oil salesman.  And unless you discover the fountain of youth, my claim looks pretty good.

  10. Paul

    White Nationalist barfs up more anti-Christian rhetoric.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann


    Personal testimony enough for you? Read Don Piper’s book. Quite compelling.

    “Proof” is another false religion because no matter what you are proving, it still requires faith at some point, even if it is at some small level. I can tell you it rained .25 inches in my rain gauge last night, but you still have to have faith I emptied it from last rain, know how to read it, where to put it, etc. IN other words, “faith” in message and messanger. Otherwise no one can “prove” my rain gauge is at .25 inches last night, even if I snapped a picture.

    You have faith, just in wrong things.

  12. Le Roi du Nord


    So in your mind nothing is actually “true”, as proof of anything is a false religion ?  I can prove to you that I wear size 12 shoes by showing them to you and by measuring my feet, but that really doesn’t mean anything to you, correct?   I can drop a bowling ball on your toe and prove gravity, but that really isn’t enough “proof” that gravity exists, correct?

    It must be extraordinarily difficult for someone like you to live in a world where nothing is real, and the only thing you trust are your own beliefs.

  13. Kevin Scheunemann


    I live in it just fine.

    I’m just indicating that you have faith where you think you have proof. Size 12? How do you know they are really size 12? Different manufacturers may have slight deviations in sizing, it is by faith you believe they are size 12. They could really be 11 and 7/8, or 12 and 1/16.

    No one denies gravity exists. It is a question if how gravity formed. By your faith- that everything came from nothing…,which is absurd. Or my faith, the one true faith, everything came from God.

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    So my shoe size is whatever you say it is, eh?  You are really going silly now.

    “No one denies gravity exists”.  Really?  How do you know that?

    “It is a question if how gravity formed”.  I suspect from your comment that you don’t have a clue as to how gravity “formed”.  Or at least give us your explanation…

  15. Kevin Scheunemann


    No manufacturer is perfect.   You say your shoe size is 12, but have you measured it really?   Can we rely on you for accurate measurement….my reaction would be “no”.

    Gravity was created by God, along with everything else.

    You believe gravity was eventually created from nothing, because something came into being from nothing and the pieces came together to create gravity, which is a huge faith leap on your part.   That is an extreme faith leap on your part.

    I can at least point to fact/evidence Jesus existed and walked the earth.   you can only point to some theory that everything came from nothing which strains even the wildest of delusions.

  16. Le Roi du Nord


    I can’t have a rational discussion with someone so fact resistant.  Carry on without me and any other rational thinkers.

  17. Kevin Scheunemann


    Don’t confuse your logic resistence with fact resistence.  The lack of logic of your faith system…that everything came from nothing and randomly came together from nothing does defy all fact and rational discussion.


  18. Le Roi du Nord


    “that everything came from nothing and randomly came together from nothing”    That is where your lack of any modicum of science education drags you down.  You can say that nonsense all you want, but that doesn’t make it true.

  19. Kevin Scheunemann


    Everything came from nothing is the godless Big Bang theory.

    You subscribe to something else?

    Do share.

  20. Le Roi du Nord


    What do you call “nothing”, because that isn’t the way the BBT works.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    The gases for the alleged big bang had to come from somewhere.   If nothing existed before the big bang, thoses gases came from nothing.

    At some point you have to acknowledge, under godless big bang theory, that everything came from nothing….which requires A LOT of faith, even more than Christians have.

    If you deny that, this is your chance to explain it to me…where did everything come from to lead up to alleged “big bang” besides “nothing”?

    Even the “best” scientific minds have no answer for that.

    Pretty stark when you realize your godless faith believes in something more crazy than those Christians…. I enjoy these moments.

  22. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’m hearing crickets on where all the gas needed for “Big Bang” came from?

    It’s OK to admit your faith. Honesty is a scientific value, correct?

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