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2117, 21 Jan 16

Teaching Values

In Finland.

Migrants arriving in Finland are being offered classes on Finnish values and how to behave towards women. Concerned about a rise in the number of sexual assaults in the country, the government wants to make sure that people from very conservative cultures know what to expect in their new home.

Johanna is one of those energetic, animated teachers whose cheerful energy lures even the most reluctant pupil into engaging with the lesson. She uses both her hands to stress her meaning and she always softens any difficult points with a smile.

“So in Finland,” she says softly, “you can’t buy a wife. A woman will only be your wife if she wants to be – because here women are men’s equals.”

Her pupils, all recently arrived asylum seekers at this reception centre hidden away in the snowy depths of the Finnish forest, watch her carefully – and I watch them. Some of the young Iraqi men, who already speak good English and passable Finnish, nod sagely. Others, particularly the older men, stare at one another with raised eyebrows as Johanna’s words are translated into Arabic for them. One man, hunkered down inside his black ski jacket seems to be taking notes while there’s a faint smile on the lips of the only head-scarfed young woman in the room.


2117, 21 January 2016


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    It’s racist for Finland to be having these classes.

    You can’t judge Muslims like this….

    So it is OK to to “re-educate” Muslims vs tolerate them in left wing socialist countries?


  2. old baldy


    You say it is racist to hold these classes, yet you would bar the entry of these same folks because of their religion. And nowhere in the article was race mentioned. You made that up.

    Nowhere in the article did it say these classes were mandatory. It fact the article clearly states they are voluntary. How are these any different than the religious and cultural indoctrination you give your family or fellow church goers?

    Your lack of perception and comprehension is far from hilarious, but rather a sad commentary of the tunnel vision and intolerance of those on the extremes of any position.

  3. Kevin Scheunemann


    So you support immigrants coming into this country that exhibit this kind of behavior toward women?

    I have more rspect for women.

  4. old baldy


    I don’t support any person that would treat fellow humans with disrespect. But we legislate against it. Nor is it racist. In this case it is cultural. An we don’t prohibit legal cultural practices either. If that were the case there probably wouldn’t be any religious gatherings, yours included.

    And you failure to defend you original claims doesn’t make them correct. As usual, when confronted with reason, you change the subject .

  5. Kevin Scheunemann


    We have the legislative choice to screen migrants for this kind of criminal behavior.

    We should screen to not let criminals and terrorists in. That is what I support.

    I do not have much interest in re-educating this radical Islamic, criminal, mindset toward women while the migrants are here.

    Let them reform their ways before we let them in.

  6. old baldy


    “Let them reform their ways before we let them in.”

    Who stands at the border making that call?

  7. Mark Maley

    Respect for women includes allowing them to make their own choices about their bodies

    When you think you can make that decision
    You mean you respect them if they accept their roles that your religion dictates to them

    Not a bit different than well intended Muslim
    Who love women under a Burka

  8. Kevin Scheunemann


    What’s the alternative? Subjecting women of this nation to a group of barbarians?


    50% of the abortions are girls. Last I checked, systematically murdering females is not “pro-woman”.

    40% of all abortions are African American. This means liberals are still living our Margaret Sanger’s, the mother of abortion in this country, dream of racist abortion. she wanted abortion to get rid of African american babies.

    Christianity is the only religion that preaches respect of women from conception until eternity. Muslim religion doesn’t do that. Liberal religion certainly does not do that.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    That was an unfortunate typo…should say “living out”.

  10. old baldy

    “Christianity is the only religion that preaches respect of women from conception until eternity. ” Absolute nonsense. You are making stuff up again.

    “Liberal religion certainly does not do that.” Please define “liberal religion”. I’ll bet it is any that isn’t yours.

  11. Seeker

    Slander and personal attacks. Way past time to ban the poster at 8:56 AM.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    Beliefs of liberal religion:

    1.) We are no morally different than apes because there is no god.

    2.) Killing unborn babies is the main sacrament to be a real “womyn”.

    3.) Never punish the perp, especially if they are a protected minority group.

    4.) Always punish the cop, because he is always racist, even if he is a minority himself.

    5.) All money and earnings belong to the state and must be distributed to people who did not earn the money.

    6.) Global warming must be stopped, despite the science that it prevents the coming ice age.

    7.) It’s OK for Muslims to mistrest women and homosexuals…but if a Christian Baker in Oregon will not bake for a gay wedding, we must punish them to the ends of the earth and trest them like the Muslim stoning an adulterous woman.

    8.) Mistreating women is just fine if you are a fleeing migrant for political purposes.

    9.) Rape and sexual assault of women is acceptable when accusing the perp ends up offending Muslim migrants.

    10.) 1st amendment should be repealed because people could offend.

    Those are the 10 commandments of the Church of Liberalism.

    It is a religion believing weird things with passionate disciples.

  13. dad29

    their bodies

    No one else’s. Please demonstrate, using medical science, that unborn babies are NOT persons. Be specific.

  14. dad29

    We only have about 1250 years of experience with Mohammedans, and every one of them gives us the evidence that Mohammedanism is nekulturny. The cult determines the culture and the cult is theologically and philosophically erroneous–which is why the culture is what it is.

    Not only does this country have a right to bar entry based on “religion,” (if you insist on calling it that); it has an obligation to do so.

    Atheism, agnosticism, and secular humanism are also ‘religions,’ and they produce exactly the same cultural results as does Mohammedanism: power flows from the gun (or scimitar).

  15. old baldy


    Are those found in your Book of Excuses, or the Book of Made-Up Stuff ?

  16. Seeker

    More bigoted personal attacks. Time to ban the poster above.

  17. Kevin Scheunemann


    You asked me to define liberal religion. I think I did a fairly effective job.

    Interesting you cannot dispute the point.

  18. old baldy


    You defined your personal bias and hatred toward those that disagree with you. Nothing more.

    While I agree with some of your points, that list of complaints no more defines a religion than your idolizing a fictional character that allegedly walked on water.


    Your mother calling….

  19. Kevin Scheunemann


    I would look at it as dislike of positions, not hatred of the people.

    You will note, that I rarely partake in personal name calling.

  20. old baldy


    Odd that you would make that claim, “I rarely partake in personal name calling”, based on what you have written about our current President, former governor, the pope, and others that do not share your personal view on religion, me included. Doesn’t your cult have a rule against saying things that aren’t true? Or does “rarely” have a different meaning in your society?

  21. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’ll bite…when did I partake in personal name calling?

  22. old baldy


    You know, all the readers know, so quit hiding behind the faux bewilderment. It lessens your stature even more…

  23. Kevin Scheunemann


    Then point out an example where I used personal name calling. I think you came up nada in your search on that one…

    You may think I name call, but I just make articulate, sometimes, biting statements about bad policy positions.

  24. Seeker

    Way past time to ban Old Baldy. Nothing but trolling behavior, personal attacks and gaslighting.

  25. John Foust

    Non-belief is a “religion”, Dad29? Such slippery logic.

    So how many religions do *you* have? For starters, your first commandment makes it sound like your god thinks there’s other gods that might tempt you. What’s the name for someone who believes there are other gods, but is only supposed to follow one? That’s still monotheism? You’re supposed to have no other gods before you, so what of all those other gods?

    Following your logic, clearly you have other “religions” in the form of not believing in Baal and Zeus.

    Hopefully there will be a new Nicaea to help you able to fold this into tripartitism, too.

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