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2128, 05 May 22

FDA Limits Use of J&J Jab

Risks and rewards… perhaps we should let people choose their risk threshold and decide for themselves if they want to inject themselves with something.

The Food and Drug Administration announced Thursday it will restrict the use of the Johnson & Johnson one-shot COVID-19 vaccine after an investigation revealed that those who got the jab were at increased risk of developing life-threatening blood clots.

 

The agency is now only authorizing the pharmaceutical giant’s Janssen COVID vaccine to people 18 or older for whom other authorized or approved vaccines are not accessible or clinically appropriate, and to those 18 years or older who otherwise would not get a COVID vaccine.

 

The decision comes following an investigation into reports of thrombosis and thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) – a rare and potentially life-threatening disease that creates blood clots and creates low levels of blood platelets – from those who have received the vaccine.

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2128, 05 May 2022

15 Comments

  1. Jason

    Just read that antibody tests are indicated that just about every kid in the US has had Covid. I wonder what that does to the mortality rate… I know I haven’t seen any braniac in a Gov position even postulate on it.

    For the dem simps that post here… What I’m saying is when the number of people who have had the disease is unknown, the mortality rate and even the hospitalization rate is vastly wrong.

  2. jonnyv

    Jason, you can see the year over year mortality rate. On average the annual percent change in mortality was around 1%. In 2020, it JUMPED to 18.75%. We had almost 500K additional deaths in the the US alone in 2020 and the same number in 2021. While we will never have an exact number, it is pretty easy to see that COVID & COVID related deaths are the cause of almost 1 million additional deaths in the US over the past 2 years.
    https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/03/united-states-deaths-spiked-as-covid-19-continued.html

  3. Jason

    jv.. yeah, that’s not addressing my statement in any way.

  4. dad29

    COVID & COVID related deaths

    By “Covid-related” you obvs include Deaths By Vaxx. Pfizer admits to 1200+ in its clinical trials, with 9K+ “unknown” deaths.

    Think that the FDA’s ban of J&J’s (with a few exceptions) is done b/c the Vaxx was good for you?

  5. jonnyv

    Jason, you are asking how we will tell in the future of the mortality rate of Covid?

    We have a very solid baseline of historic year over year mortality. I would assume that now that a vaccine is available we will see a significant drop in mortality in 2022 & 2023. After 2023, the mortality rate will probably be higher than what it was in 2019 and before. We can ROUGHLY estimate that will probably be a yearly additional mortality due to Covid. It depends on how big or small the change is. If we get back to 2019 numbers, then it will probably be difficult to determine an accurate number. (Which will be good because that will mean it is very small). We will be relying on hospital statistics to determine a cause of death. I think we have a general idea of what a COVID death looks like now. The numbers will never be 100% accurate. Odds are will be be like HIV deaths or any other virus related death. Sometimes it is the cause, sometimes it will be related but not directly the cause.

    If that isn’t the question you are asking, then your question isn’t clear.

  6. jonnyv

    Dad29, always trying to spin numbers? The 9K+ were not unknown deaths. That was unknown results. And the 1200 deaths… those are not all directly related to the vaccine. Those are just people who died during the trial, for ANY give reason. Could be COVID or cancer, or getting hit by a car. I assume you need to trial the vaccine on many different type of people. All ages, all conditions. Some are GOING to die while the trial happens.

    You sure have a hard-on for trying to prove that a vaccine, that has probably saved MILLIONS of lives, is dangerous. If you don’t want it, fine. Risk it yourself. But trying to broadly proclaim that it is extremely dangerous is just a flat out lie. The actual number of deaths FROM the virus are microscopic. You probably also believe that MMR shot gives kids autism. You probably believe those people that call you and claim to be Microsoft, and tell you your computer has a virus on it. Do you also believe that Tupac is living in the Caribbean? Man, stay off the garbage news sites that people link to on Facebook.

    I said this before, with ANY vaccine or medical procedure there is a chance of death. Some kids have adverse reactions to the MMR shot and die. It is a VERY VERY small amount. But it happens. I am sure people have died from the COVID vaccine. But it is a SMALL, SMALL amount.

  7. dad29

    a vaccine, that has probably saved MILLIONS of lives,

    Talk about “spinning numbers”!! Have you ANY proof of that claim?

    The actual number of deaths FROM the virus are microscopic.

    Wait…..what? If deaths from the virus are microscopic, then why the vaxx? Especially one that is causing deaths, strokes, and serious thrombosis, not to mention miscarriages?

    Walking ball of contradictions you are. Apparently you’re a Democrat.

  8. dad29

    By the way, while I have a Facebook presence, I haven’t actively signed into it for about 30 years; I don’t read anything on that site. All my children have had MMR, and no one from Microsoft, nor any princes from Africa have called me.

    Perhaps you should get away from your neurotic association-games.

  9. dad29

    Here’s the actualities, not the propaganda from ECDC:

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/uk-government-data-shows-nobody-should?s=r

    New UK government data allows us to analyze the data in a way we couldn’t before. This new analysis shows clearly that the COVID vaccines kill more people than they save for all age groups. In other words, they shouldn’t be used by anyone. The younger you are, the less sense it makes.

    More at the link.

    Have a nice day!

  10. Jason

    >Jason, you are asking how we will tell in the future of the mortality rate of Covid?

    You really don’t understand my original statement? Really?

  11. Tuerqas

    I understood Jason’s point the first time. Probably because I read what is there instead of what I expect…usually. Jason’s point was that the mortality percentages were off in the PAST, nothing about future rates. He listed that antibody tests show that just about every kid has had Covid already. If those illnesses were actually added into the percentages as ‘living through it’, along with all of the adults who were never able to get into a clinic/hospital (I was one of those. The hospital that I go to were not allowing people in when I had it unless it was felt to be life threatening) then the mortality rates would be much lower. i.e., the death rates of the PAST are significantly, likely vastly inflated. Those figures likely did not count any of the people who called into their clinic sick, but were told not to come in unless conditions worsened because they were overburdened.
    Add in to that that the CDC required Covid to be listed as a possible cause of death if it were present at all and that Hospitals were given money to actually list it as the cause of death, and now you are getting truly vastly overestimated mortality rates. And anyone who thinks that the CDC required that rule during Trump’s Covid time in office, but then retracted it less than 3 months after Biden took office…well I question whether what goes through their head should be called ‘thought’. Only idiots could believe that all other leading causes of death in the US went crashing down in percentages while Covid was an election issue, but went right back to normal after the election was over and rules were changed back to making non-election year sense.

    And if you appreciate a good copy editor:
    “In 2020, it JUMPED to 18.75%.”
    The mortality rate did not jump to 18.75%. Almost 1 in 5 people did not die from Covid in 2020. THE RATE jumped 18.75%. From 2019 to 2020, the estimated age-adjusted death rate increased by about 19%, from 715.2 to 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population. That is a very large jump year over year, the largest since the Spanish flu, I think. But it is not an 18.75% death rate, or 18,750 deaths per 100,000.

    And while we are at it:
    “The 9K+ were not unknown deaths. That was unknown results. And the 1200 deaths… those are not all directly related to the vaccine.”
    I think it comical that a liberal (who have almost all been 100% behind the CDC during the entire pandemic) can say the above. By the very requirements that the CDC added, yes, all 2100 deaths were Covid related.
    The upshot that you missed was that likely all 2100 deaths WERE counted as Covid deaths, at least all of the deaths that happened while Trump was in office, because Dems were trying to push the Covid death toll as high as possible during the election year.

  12. jonnyv

    Tuerqas, we can argue semantics about “jumped & jumped to”. Usually the CHANGE in the number of deaths averages around 1% year over year. In 2019 it was .5% increase from 2018, In 2020 it was 18.75% change. So I think I was correct in saying “Jumped to” based on Table 1 of the first linked article. It isn’t stating that 18% of the people DIED, it is that it was an 18% change vs the previous years deaths. So… I will stick with “jumped to”. ;)

    And the 9400 that we were talking about is in reference to the Pfizer trials, regarding Unknown Outcomes of the trial. Apparently it is voluntary to submit your report on the outcome. And the 1200 “fatal” as well. This is all about the vaccine TRIALS. The 1200 died DURING THE TRIAL, for whatever reason. This has NOTHING to do with the CDC. It was based on Dad29’s incorrect claims that were released about the Pfizer vaccine trials.
    https://perma.cc/6W69-9WFT (page 7)

    Try and keep up with the conversation. You are usually pretty good about this stuff. Must be a Monday thing. You gotta at least look at the links provided. I like to cite most of my sources.

  13. Jason

    Semantics? Jesus dude you need more help than Udemy.

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