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0730, 02 Oct 20

Trump Catches the Rona

Pray for our President’s health and speedy recovery.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said early Friday that he and first lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the coronavirus, a stunning announcement that plunges the country deeper into uncertainty just a month before the presidential election.

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0730, 02 October 2020

96 Comments

  1. Mar

    Let the hate and speculation begin.

  2. jjf

    Well, he has some risk factors…  old, overweight, low income.

  3. Merlin

    Any video of Queen Nancy doing a happy dance?

  4. Mar

    Well, I will give you this one jjf, that was kind of funny.
    But would you rather have your bank account or President Trump’s bank account?

  5. jjf

    No, Merlin, just a video of her preparing the rescindment letter for Barrett, in case she has to step into the presidency.

  6. Mar

    Merlin, no, that would be rather weird. But I heard she is having some ice scream to celebrate.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    First off, I don’t hate trump. Having said that, it should be pretty obvious now that hydroxychloroquine doesn’t prevent coronavirus. We’ll have to see how the bleach and light injections pan out.

    I sincerely hope that trump and his wife both fully recover with minimal long term after effects. But with the long overdue realization that the virus isn’t a hoax, and that it is far more serious than he and the hoards of deniers have claimed .

  8. Pat

    I forgot to mention that I’m sending out thoughts and prayers to them and everyone else who may have been infected in their group.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You say you don’t hate Trump, but then bear false witness against him, twice!

    Disgusting. AWFUL. Just awful.

  10. Mar

    Le Roi can’t even say something nice about President without being hateful.
    Shameful.

  11. jjf

    If we use the rule of Mar and Jason, where we are to treat others as they treat us, perhaps we can be as kind and thoughtful about Trump as he was about Clinton when she was sick, right?

  12. Mar

    Yes, Le Roi is a hater.

  13. Le Roi du Nord

    Sorry kids, I don’t hate trump. You can keep saying that forever, but the won’t make it true.

    What is the false witness, k?

  14. Mar

    Let’s see. Le Roi calls him names. Hates all his policies. Will never say 1 good thing about him. Lies about President. Will not acknowledge his accomplishments.
    Yeah, that’s hate.

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    What names, mar? Correct, I don’t agree with most of his policies, as do many other citizens. So what, that doesn’t mean I hate him? What has he accomplished other than downplaying the seriousness of coronavirus?

  16. Pat

    I hate him!

  17. Pat

    Oh, and I call him names too.

  18. Mar

    Thank you for making my point Le Roi.
    You just showed more hate.
    Thank you for being honest Pat.

  19. Pat

    You’re welcome.

  20. Le Roi du Nord

    What names, mar? I proved that you have nothing, never did, never will.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    False witness #1, Trump never said to inject anyone with bleach. Your snarky liberal lie was disgusting!

    False witness #2, Trump said the poor media coverage was a hoax, not the virus. You awful, disgusting, liberals keep repeating the lie!

    Unless you apologize for false witness, you are a hater.

    Since you claim to not be a hater, an apology should be no problem here.

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    You are assuming things not in evidence.  Shame on you. You are an awful, disgusting assumer.

    And no, I don’t hate anyone, not even you.

    When will you apologize for calling me a murderer?  Or a fascist? Or a communist? Or a drug addict?  Or an alcoholic?  None true, but you feel entitled to bear false witness against someone you have never met.  Not very christian of you.

  23. Mar

    I am so sorry for you and your family for senility. It must be really hard on them to take care of you, Le Roi.
    Bungler in chief, Trump virus, Orange man etc. I can’t check anymore. On my way from Phoenix and just making a pit stop at Dickeys BBQ.

  24. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    The fact you stick by your false witness when corrected on your lies shows you are are a hater…and evil.

    Then you double down with false witness against me.

    Point to exact quote where I called you those things.

  25. Kevin Scheunemann

    It is vile hate to bear false witness against others and then be unrepentant about it when shown the truth.

  26. Le Roi du Nord

    I don’t think you are entitled pass judgment on others, k. You have called me all those names and more, yet you deny it. What an amazing display of hubris and arrogance by an alleged “christian “. Shame on you.

  27. Mar

    Come on Le Roi, admit you were lying when you said you never called him names.

  28. Mar

    Le Roi, I can pass judgement on you since you are a proven liar. I can pass judgement on you since you are a proven racist
    I can pass judgement on you because you are a proven anti-cop bigot.
    Prove me wrong.

  29. Mar

    So, Le Roi lies again.
    Before this lie, he/she had .0001 ounce of creditability.
    Now he has he/she has .000001 ounces of creditability.
    So pathetic.
    So sad.
    Get help Le Roi.

  30. Kevin Scheunemann

    nord,

    We are called to discern open, obvious, evil, correct it.

    If the evil is unrepentant, like you grossly demonstrated against the president, with your false witness, it is fine to label it appropriately.

    I only asked you to correct your 2 false witness statements against the president. You responded by attacking me, viciously.

    That means you hate the truth, and you hate people who point out the truth.

    You continue to double down on your lies by claiming one cannot discern truth….while you pass gross judgement on others with lies.

    Awful. Just awful.

    I’m fine with you discerning outward actions, just don’t do that discernment with open lies, that makes you evil when you cling to them.

    That is awful. Just awful.

  31. Mar

    Just remember that over 325,000,000 Americans have not gotten the Chinese virus.

  32. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Have you ever apologized or repented for calling me and others “murderers”?

    You are a hypoc, and a liar.

    mar, you are nothing.

  33. Le Roi du Nord

    “hypocrite”.

  34. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    When did I do that?

  35. Kevin Scheunemann

    I have called abortion advocates “murderers”.

    Are you a baby killing advocate and support the abortion/kilking field camps?

  36. penquin

    I have called abortion advocates “murderers”

    For someone who whines sooooooooo much about others “bearing false witness”, you sure seem to tell this lie quite often.

    Or perhaps you’re simply ignorant about how the word is defined – “murder” is not just any death, but rather an illegal killing. Even if a fetus is no different than a fully-grown human being, abortion still wouldn’t be considered “murder” anymore than a cop shooting a suspect or a solider throwing a hand grenade. People shouting&chanting “Abortion is murder” don’t have anymore credibility than the “Meat is murder” crowd.

    Personally I look to the Bible for guidance in this matter, and Genisis 2:7 makes it very clear when life begins. Prior to that moment, it is a souless vessel – valuable on its own merits, but not (yet) a human being.

  37. Mar

    penguin, I respectfully disagree.
    Homicide is murder, correct?
    Homicide can happen where there is malice or if it is justified.
    Homicide can happen when a thug kills another thug.
    Homicide can happen when a police officer kills a thug who is shooting at him, but the cop is justified, but it is still a homicide.
    So,is it unreasonable to say that a doctor who kills an unborn child committing homicide?

  38. Pat

    Conley says we are 72 hours into the diagnosis. We were told around 1 am on Friday morning that POTUS was positive, which is only 36 hours ago. That means that Trump new about being positive before the debate and his travels to fund raisers and rallies.

  39. Mar

    No Pat. He told us this morning, which put the diagnosis on Wednesday and the debate was Tuesday.

  40. penquin

    Homicide is murder, correct?

    Incorrect. All murders (‘cept those that involve crows, of course) are homicides, but not all homicides are murders.

    So,is it unreasonable to say that a doctor who kills an unborn child committing homicide?

    I beleive it is unreasonable to say it is a child prior to being born. However, stipulating that a fetus is a living being then it would not be incorrect to call an abortion a “homicide”.

    But not all homicides are murders. Thus, no matter what the status – living being or not – an abortion is not a murder.

  41. Mar

    “Not all homicides are crimes. However, all killings of humans are included in the homicide definition. Many homicides, such as murder and manslaughter, violate criminal laws. Others, such as a killing committed in justified self-defense, are not criminal. https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/homicide-definition.html

  42. Kevin Scheunemann

    What bible are you reading?

    This is Genesis 2:7.

    Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

    You need to read beyond Genesis 2.

    The Holy Scriptures clearly teach that the living, yet unborn, are persons in the sight of God (Job 10:9-11, Psalm 139:13, Psalm 51:5, Jeremiah 1:5, Luke 1:41-44) and are under the protection of his commandment against murder (Exodus 20:13, Matthew 5:21, Genesis 9:6).

    Now, quote me the part of scripture where it says born babies are “souless vessels”. Only the godless in their shameful rebellion aganst God, demons, and Satan advocate that position.

    Are you claiming to be in 1 of those 3 categories?

  43. Le Roi du Nord

    It is looking more and more like trump, or at least some of his staff, knew he tested positive before he made appearances sans mask. What an amazing display of irresponsibility by the pseudo-“leader” of the free world. The self-proclaimed conservatives, noisy, but hypocritical proponents of personal responsibility, should take a hard looking the mirror.

    And remember, the guy in DC getting the best medical care in the world, has a bevy of lawyers and sycophants trying to take away yours.

  44. Mar

    Pathological Liar Le Roi are you going to admit you lied when you said you never called President Trump names.
    You are such a liar and hater.

  45. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Have you apologized for your false witness against Trump and myself?

  46. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Trump never said to inject with bleach and said awful media coverage was,the hoax, not the virus.

    You are even more awful tripling down on the lies.

    Awful. Just awful.

    I told you to point to where I called you that. So now you doubled down on you false witness on that.

    Despicable.

  47. Mar

    Yep, Coward Le Roi refuses to admit he is a dumbass liar.
    What a coward. Even worse than the Cowardly Lion.
    Now go put on your little girl dress and run away, Le Roi.

  48. dad29

    Read WI Statutes 940.01.  Abortion is first-degree intentional homicide–temporarily suspended by Roe.

  49. Le Roi du Nord

    940.01  First-degree intentional homicide.

    That is all it says under 940.01.

    Perhaps you could point out in which sub ( ) abortion is listed .

  50. Mar

    Come on Coward Le Roi, stop hiding behind your dresses. Act like a man and admit you lied. Stop being a coward.

  51. Mar

    This is what is says after WI Statues 940.15: “The essential holding of Roe v. Wade allowing abortion is upheld, but various state restrictions on abortion are permissible. Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833, 120 L. Ed. 2d 674”

  52. MHMaley

    I find those who cheered at the cruelty of the current
    President now demanding civility for him to be a tad
    hypocritical .

    I thought the election ended after the debate .

    Instead , it ended the second the hit parade of
    Republican officials made Covid 19 the sole issue in
    the country for the final weeks of the campaign .

    Do you really think all the negative tests today for
    all the folks around the President disclosed already
    will remain negative in the coming days and weeks .

    His own Chief of staff contradicted the doctors today
    as to the danger he was in and the doctors refused
    to give his vitals or admit that he had been
    given oxygen before his trip to the
    hospital .

    Imagine your doctor not being able to tell time .

    This shit show has officially decided what’s coming .

    All the debate and what about’s in the world
    won’t change that fact .

  53. Mar

    How many times do I have to tell you Pat, Twitter is not news.

  54. Pat

    How many times do I have to tell you, Marbles, I don’t care. You have a choice of not clicking on the link.

  55. penquin

    Now, quote me the part of scripture where it says born babies are “souless vessels”.

    Please show me where I said that scripture said anything of the sort.

  56. Kevin Scheunemann

    Penquin

    Your Oct 3, 9:31 am comment above. You misused Genesis 2:7 to make claim unborn babies are “souless vessels” until born.

    You are now taking that comment back an apologizing for the claim?

    You agree that abortion advocates are advocating murder?

    I’m glad you finally recognize the heinous evil.

    Nord just lies about the carnage. Don’t be a Nord.

  57. penquin

    You misused Genesis 2:7 to make claim unborn babies are “souless vessels” until born.

    No, I did not misuse it. (And unless you are the Lord himself, you have no business at all passing such absolute judgement upon others. Are you Him?)

    And that’s not what you said I said before. You stated I said “born babies” rather than “unborn” – gonna assume that was just a sloppy typo on your part?

    You are now taking that comment back an apologizing for the claim?

    No, I don’t see the need to take back anything said in this thread, and thus will not apologize for sharing that verse nor for sharing my opinion.

    The verse seems pretty clear in what it is saying. Man does not become a “living being” until God gives us that first breath of life. Prior to that moment it may be “living”, but it is not a “being”.

    You agree that abortion advocates are advocating murder?

    No, I do not agree with that. As pointed out before, “murder” means an illegal killing and as it stands right now abortion is not illegal.

    Will you apologize for misusing the word “murder”? We can move on to the many other apologies you owe after settling this one…

  58. jjf

    Wait, did Kevin say he’s looking for examples of him hijacking threads to talk about abortion?  And that he’d give me $100?

  59. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,.

    The hijack was done by someone eles, just responding to the hijack.

    Pequin,

    I gave you many verses showing the blessing of life begins with conception.

    You “souless vessel” comment was implying life does not begin until birth, so you can justify murder of pre-born.

    So I’ll ask again, show me the bible verses that indicate the period between conception and birth is not life and not a soul from God?

    $100 says you cannot find it.

    Nice try at diversion for your unbiblical, pro murder baby murder advocacy…

  60. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,

    You will also note I only mentioned the godless religions of liberalism in my wager post. I hate talking about the godless false religions of liberalism.

  61. Le Roi du Nord

    “I hate talking about the godless false religions of liberalism.”

    Yet you keep bringing up your false claims about liberals.  You aren’t really telling the truth again.

  62. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You still have not apologized for your lies against Trump and myself.

    I always state the truth about liberals and their false religions. I understand you hate the truth, so I am not surprised by your reaction.

  63. Mar

    Kevin, I would say Le Roi is a piece of sh.t, but that would be insulting the sh.t family.

  64. Pat

    What hate!!!!!!!!

  65. dad29

    Just to help the helpless LeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoyyyyyyyyyyy, here’s a bit more of Section 940:

    First-degree intentional homicide.
    (1)Offenses.
    (a) Except as provided in sub. (2), whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony.
    (b) Except as provided in sub. (2), whoever causes the death of an unborn child with intent to kill that unborn child, kill the woman who is pregnant with that unborn child or kill another is guilty of a Class A felony.

    It’s MURDER, plain and simple.

  66. Pat

    Thoughts and prayers going out to all the Secret Service hero’s who had to make the sacrifice to take a highly contagious ego maniac out for a photo op.

  67. Mar

    Wait, what Pat? I thought masks work. So they should not have any problems.

  68. Mar

    When it comes to Pathological Liar Coward Le Roi, hate towards him is totally justified.

  69. Pat

    “ Wait, what Pat? I thought masks work. So they should not have any problems.”

    Ok. No problem then, if you say so.

  70. Pat

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519562-walter-reed-attending-physician-swipes-at-trump-for-motorcade-visit?fbclid=IwAR26IQC4gFlBygjOvzbRDJ03fXgCSAvLuUw0RBKzGgKruwEra0Ac4pql9uw&fbclid=IwAR3mEILgZQRkJz5tA4v8YEGi6m8WmQhHorHL4XsvT0eswqiAhQwkIRE7uCs&fbclid=IwAR1AlhNm2eo8zT6MSC57T6pQu0HLoKBfvg3mstJJkpNmdn_RTs_-OMYcGWE&fbclid=IwAR1c652WkjQX1QL0rFOh0OKhZQ1XOKB18fAs00s3l-M-Mw-0UGTWyHvKEEM&fbclid=IwAR0U9Exc5T4kU8JroI3l-Fkj9gpbd5d-BQbobWSDS0hxqi9XqCJZt0sX_fQ&fbclid=IwAR0S1GZybq42dardlT3ROlmtGJMq5G1mykqcVs2jgrvKUN4r-k2ylqr3axQ&fbclid=IwAR0hFRBWSGahCMeTOFvBghMLwBPRKJcUdvaBn1DM9zjPfNXzIu-Z7OR_EqU&fbclid=IwAR33QDZRSYPegXLMVzc9c23XjKzUwxxJ4rnLS-1AiGIM-yzeIa1pfE7YZFw&fbclid=IwAR3l2GXTj2ozNjlbmzOJO-4zNtY8qOR6Y4kfAPaVEyFVx1z07UuduTmL-CI&fbclid=IwAR14Fr7tnd53PewomDw0z8KCLfrcGTmSxdLhzsEadTLmajZOS9V2I_MTF-M&fbclid=IwAR2yPS6rWexVKGtOnC0ysSLBa1he4uIZzas8DhqGkb10ucF1JyNGsYFiEg4&fbclid=IwAR3bAMu4-k-bgvZQ5n2j3laTQhOm5OFBpiY3iKGnY_lioseHMBBPCWamrxA&fbclid=IwAR1Z73_WrmuFCmXs0Y9Y1lSJ8wFfqESd1OARrS63ddZqWI3N2GK6HjJ8C50&fbclid=IwAR0JCh_8JXjQQaj5sjsjlC5AsrUADTRg3WOAit-jwP4vicyfH9oo62Gudc4&fbclid=IwAR3R-IZJeeNnz2mJFHyCu-IuvTQvCZSGDM0ptsz28CLe3eANe-VqlHTbUK4&fbclid=IwAR0Fh2jLz3e6zSHVBSr_5TGP2AgoT_b6G45v11pbvinQVBGZIl8b1eGGCjY&fbclid=IwAR23G_oAQsghwAklQUcWBEjAKc1x4Al8QPVsJwMP5aBkgHq71WqagGtWRM0&fbclid=IwAR1mfe5NlSI-oIv9fUbPWfqvUevOPhtUsaLTqDWfv60mIQfyj7p5D7OV2O0&fbclid=IwAR0s3HZVti45Tu1aIHi3OQsA_2WN2628tkomk67MThixamsSizUvnaf3B4k

    I guess the doctor at the hospital didn’t consult Marbles about protocol.

  71. Pat

    Marbles, do you think it was a good idea for him to visit wounded solders at Walter Reed, as he claims he did?

  72. Mar

    Nope, no problem at all.
    Could you have gotten a bigger link, Pat?
    I think the link you posted was kind of small.

  73. Pat

    I wish it could have been bigger.

  74. Le Roi du Nord

    “I always state the truth about liberals and their false religions.”

    Now look who is bearing false witness.

  75. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You should apologize for your lies first.

    Then point out an example of any untruth I have stated about warming and evolution religions.

    Exact quote please.

  76. Mar

    Le Roi will never apologize for being a owardly Liar. That’s why his/her words mean nothing.
    He/she might, someday, when hell freezes over, make a lucid comment and no one will believe him/her.
    Such a pathetic loser.

  77. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    First off, neither are religions. Both are evidence based, as opposed to your “religion”.

    Secondly, you have consistently denied both climate change/global warming and evolution.

    Hence, you have been bearing false witness.

    mar:  Seek help.

  78. Kevin Scheunemann

    First, you should apologize for your lies. Your lack of an apology is awful. You were caught squarely on the lies, yet you persist.

    Second, evolution is a “theory”, not proven, with strong evidence against it. Even Darwim could not explain sudden Cambrian layer life explosion and the absence of life evidence in pre-Cambrian layer. Your ability to ignore that evidence is a godless religion you cling to. An excuse you use to soothe yourself in your constant rebellion against God. Just because you are in denial of you rebellion against God, and deny it, does not negate your religious piety in your godless rebellion.

  79. Mar

    “mar:  Seek help.”
    Funny, coming from a coward and a liar who actually needs help.

  80. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    There is a lot more evidence in favor of CC/GW and evolution than there is for any of the claims you make regarding your “religion “, like the earth is 6000 years old. You are denying again.

  81. Mar

    Le Roi is hating again along with being a bigot.
    Bad week for you Le Roi: Exposed as a racist, bigot, coward, liar, hypocrite and a hater.
    That’s quite an accomplishment.

  82. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    The Cambrian evidence disproves evolution and favors sudden Creation.

    I live by faith, so I adhere to my covenant with Jesus. I don’t need the Cambrian evidence to prove sudden Creation (even though it does.)

    You claim to live by “science”, so your covenant demands you classify evolution as “unproven theory” based on counter Cambrian evidence. Your failure to do that means you live by faith on it…violating your science covenant and elevating evolution to a godless religion.

    So which is it on ignoring the Cambrian evidence? “Unproven theory” as your science covenant demands? Or “godless religion” as your faith in evolution demands?

    “Truth” seems to be a slippery thing with you, shifting with your uncertain religions.

    This is what happens when you reject objective truth.

    I libe by grace, so forgiveness on my part is always available with your repentance on your basic error, even though you abused your science covenant.

  83. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    How does the “Cambrian evidence “ disprove evolution? Be specific, and use facts. Quoting the bible isn’t a factual source.

    I libe by evidence. That way I don’t have to resort to making stuff up.

  84. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    I suggest you read Dawin. He had a whole chapter on why this Cambrian sudden life layer explosion evidence troubled him and countered his theory.

    You ignore that because evolution has gone from unproven theory to dripping, rabid religion.

    Are you saying Darwin was wrong on this chapter? He didn’t think so.

    It’s amazing how evolution cultists overlook this.

    Evolution Religion, has godless passion that makes Evangelicals jealous.

    So “unproven theory” or “godless religion”? Evolution cannot be anything more than those 2 things, if you are honest. (But we do know your position on honesty, don’t we?)

  85. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    I was reading Darwin before you were born, and actually understood it. Could you provide proof , and context, for what you are claiming?

  86. jjf

    It’s the old “god of the gaps” trick.  Kevin was told by someone that he can point at an interesting period of tens of millions of years (the “Cambrian explosion”), claim life evolved too quickly, and then can claim that God Did It.   Meanwhile, he can ignore all the other evolutionary evidence before and after.

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