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0750, 10 Jul 20

Experts Call to Reopen Schools

As usual, the greedy unions are taking advantage of the situation to push for more money.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield said Thursday that the health risks of keeping schools closed are greater than those of opening them, amid a push by President Trump to have students in classrooms this fall.

“I’m of the point of view as a public health leader in this nation, that having the schools actually closed is a greater public health threat to the children than having the schools reopen,” Redfield told The Hill’s Steve Clemons.


“I think really people underestimate the public health consequences of having the schools closed on the kids,” Redfield said at an event hosted by The Hill and sponsored by the Biosimilars Forum. “I’m confident we can open these schools safely, work in partnership with the local jurisdictions.”

The American Academy of Pediatrics has also called for students to return to classrooms, citing the educational and social harms to children of being away from school for a prolonged period of time.

But education groups like the American Association of School Administrators and the American Federation of Teachers say much more funding is needed to safely reopen schools, and that districts are already facing severe budget shortfalls due to the economic downturn sparked by the coronavirus.


0750, 10 July 2020


  1. jonnyv

    They keep saying we should, but no one really saying how we do it safely. Putting 32 kids in a small room doesn’t seem like the smartest idea right now. EVERYONE thinks kids should be in school, but no one has a plan to do it safely.

    How do you keep the kids safe? Their families? The staff?

  2. jjf

    Go on, Owen.  Tell us what the union is asking for and how it benefits them.  Tell us the plan…  wait, it’s not a Federal plan…  wait, we’ll just let the local people figure it out…  wait, if you don’t open, Trump’ll cut your funding…  wait, it’s the Unions!  It’s the Unions!

    A few kids die every year anyways, kids are strong and somehow immune mostly, what’s there to worry about?

  3. Jason

    We cant criticize unions, only the President. Right Johnny?

  4. jonnyv

    Jason, where did you read that out of my statement? No one is above criticism. You may want to get your eyes checked.

    But, what I am saying is that no one has come up with a plan. While children are less likely to have serious issues with COVID, we are still learning about the virus. We are now seeing possible brain issues, we are learning that it might be airborne, long term lung issues. I haven’t seen anything that has said that children don’t SPREAD it.

    Here is the CDCs site on COVID & Children

    Tell me how we accomplish this with our current school setup?

  5. Mar

    I guess the moron liberals don’t want to see the schools.
    If the schools open that is good for President Trump so, naturally, the liberals will oppose opening the schools.
    Yes, the schools can reopen safely. Sanitize, some social distancing if possible.
    But guess what, contagious diseases have been in schools since schools were invented. Flu, colds, lice and others have been in schools and teachers and students getting sick is nothing new.

  6. Jason

    I was responding to the other Johnny, the less intelligent trolly one who adds no value to any discussion.

  7. jonnyv

    Mar, this has NOTHING to do with Trump. Other than his stupid comments on the subject. This is about safety.

    You say, “Social Distancing if possible”. Feel free to tell me how that is possible in a small classroom of 30+ kids anyway from the ages of 5 to 18. Just SAYING things doesn’t make it happen. There needs to be an actual PLAN. What happens if a breakout does occur? What happens if a teacher gets it? Do we enforce masks for all students and staff? How do we sanitize? Do we pay for professionals to come in every night and spray down the school, or do we just pile that on to teachers as well?

  8. Mar

    Jonnyv, you have heard of janitor/custodians, right?
    And yes, teachers can help sanitize, nothing wrong with that.
    And if a staff gets it? Just like they get a cold, flu or worse? The teacher can protect themselves. If they have underlying conditions, then the district will have to deal with it. That one is tough.
    If a breakout does occur, you might have to shut down a school but not the whole district and certainly not the whole county or state.
    There is always going to be risk.
    But keeping schools is also beyond moronic, unless you want to keep a generation of kids dumb and stupid. From teachers I have talked and watching the news, about 1/3 of the kids basically abandoned school during the lockdown. That’s unacceptable.

  9. Randall Flagg


    I  knew the base for your every decision and opinion was “does it benefit Trump.”  Never thought you would say it though.

  10. Mar

    Well, Randall, the liberal thought is “if it hurts President Trump, then we have to do it”.
    Rioting and looting, excessive state shutdowns, sanctuary cities,border wall, etc.

  11. Randall Flagg


    How do those hurt Trump?

  12. Mar

    Now, Randall, you sound like Pat. Asking very stupid questions.

  13. Pat


    You’ll notice that it’s only a stupid question when Marbles is unable to provide an intelligent answer.

  14. Mar

    Actually Pat, I can provide a detailed answer.
    But Randall asked a very stupid question.
    Something you are very familiar with.

  15. Pat

    Yah, right.

  16. Jason

    Mar, use this next time anyone asks for more detail


    “No Pat, not at all true. How will Leroy, or you, or others here on this site get any smarter if you continue to insist that others do your homework for you? Project based learning is all the rage now. Or were and mar the sort that paid others to take the college entrance exam for you?”


    Easy peasy, we can be as intellectually lazy as Pat, Leroy, Flunk, and johnnyfousty all at once.

  17. Pat

    Marbles pants puppet has spoken.

  18. Pat

    That’s a pretty childish comeback answer you’re giving to Marbles, Jason. Like that would give him cover for not having an intelligent answer to a question posed to him. Everyone would see through that immediately.

  19. Jason

    >That’s a pretty childish comeback answer you’re giving to Marbles, Jason. Like that would give him cover for not having an intelligent answer to a question posed to him. Everyone would see through that immediately.

    It’s just a quote and some name changes from Leroy.  Talk to him about it if you don’t like it.

  20. Mar

    Lying Pat shows once again why they are irrelevant.

  21. Le Roi du Nord

    Hey, that is copyright material. No use without permission.


  22. Jason

    >Hey, that is copyright material.

    No it’s not you sack of shit.  For professing how smart you are all the time, you really are an idiot.

  23. dad29

    Putting 32 kids in a small room doesn’t seem like the smartest idea right now.

    Yah, we’ve been putting 32 kids into small rooms for decades.  And every damn time we do it, they all come home with the stomach flu.

    The stomach flu is JUST AS DEADLY as Covid-19 is–for kids.

    Are you really that far removed from reality, V?  Or are you some sort of WackyLeft plant?

  24. dad29

    We are now seeing possible brain issues

    THAT’s for damn sure.  There are far more addlebrained adults today than there were only 12 months ago.

  25. jjf

    Anyone here actually have kids in the schools in question?  Or are we only talking about other people’s kids and other families?  How about grandkids?

  26. jjf

    What about your age group, Dad29?  Are you ready to get it, ready to roll the dice?  Are you taking any measures to prevent getting it?

  27. Kevin Scheunemann


    I have school age kids.

    Not worried.

    This is less deadly to kids than flu…we don’t wholesale shut schools down for flu.

    But if this is an excellent argument to get rid of public school buildings in favor of choice and home schooling.. let’s do it!!!!

  28. Mar

    Gee, jjf, I work in Walmarts in Phoenix and Las Vegas, 2 of the biggest hotspots and have had no problems, even without wearing masks. But now I have to.
    Just wash my hands, don’t have anyone breathe or sneeze on you and guess what, no problems even though I have at least 3 high risk areas.

  29. Le Roi du Nord

    Your employer is protecting others from your potential to be an asymptomatic carrier.  Smart move on their part.


  30. dad29

    Are you taking any measures to prevent getting it?

    What about you, Jiffy?  Your wife, the ex-public official??  How about your clientele?  Have you organized Mayville yet after your utter fail in Dodge County??

  31. Mar

    Or Le Roi and jjf, perhaps I know a little bit more about infection control than the average bear, so I know I am safe.
    Just wish Walmart knew about infection control. Shortening hours and forcing people entering and exiting through only 1 door is beyond stupidity.

  32. Le Roi du Nord

    Sure mar, how is that hydroxychloroquine/disinfectant cocktail working for you?

  33. jjf

    Dad29, if I tell you exactly how wrong your doxxing is, will it only encourage you to dig deeper, because Personal Insults Are Cool?

    I wear a mask daily.  I carry a pack of disposable masks for anyone around me who wants one.  Hand sanitizer at the ready.  Avoiding client visits as much as possible, doing everything remotely.  One-on-one or off by myself if I’m on-site.

    But go on…  you’re doing what?

  34. Mar

    Well, Le Roi, don’t need it, won’t need more than likely but if I do get the Chinese virus,I would have no problem taking it because it works in some cases.

  35. Le Roi du Nord

    A hydroxychloroquine/disinfectant cocktail works? Now there is a real hoax.

  36. Jason

    Who ever said someone should consume a “hydroxychloroquine/disinfectant cocktail” you intellectually dispriveleged fool?

  37. jjf

    Le Roi, you know, maybe there’s some way to put the light inside the body or inject the disinfectant.  You should look into that.

  38. Mar

    Hydroxychloroquine works in some instances.
    You didn’t say what kind of disinfectant moron.
    Could be blood transfusion, dialysis or medicine.
    What a moron.

  39. Mar

    Of course, jjf, the Trump hating doctor is using people 18-45, not school aged kids to make his rant.
    And of course, no sympathy, just like you, for those who have been killed in the inner city through violence, drug over doses, accidents, cancer etc.
    But because he hates President Trump, that’s ok.

  40. Jason

    jjf, I’m sure people laughed at the time when told the earth revolved around the sun or that it wasn’t flat. I’m sure you’ll miss the entire point of what I just said. Just like you missed the entire point of what I asked Leroy. You’re just a neck bearded incel anyways, go foust your White Fragility psuedo-science to some liberal circle-jerks, instead of wasting everyone’s time.

  41. Jason

    >Let’s reflect on the dead.

    Do you have any proof those numbers are actually people who died from Covid, or much more likely, are they people whom died and were tested and positive? You know, like most states are doing? If someone died in a car crash, but tested positive… they are included in the Covid numbers… ? Anything?

  42. Le Roi du Nord

    Hydroxychloroquine works in some instances.  Really, CDC doesn’t think so.
    You didn’t say what kind of disinfectant moron. Neither did trump.
    Could be blood transfusion, dialysis or medicine.  None of those are disinfectants.
    What a moron.

    No mar, it looks like you are.

  43. Mar

    Ford Hospitals says it does. That’s science.
    None of those are disinfectants. Umm, yeah they are. They don’t sterilize, they get rid of infections.
    You are such a moron.

  44. jjf

    Le Roi, the debate team is so impressive here.

  45. Jason

    You and Leroy are shining examples, with all the time spent ignoring the hard questions. Dummy.

  46. Mar

    Thank you jjf.
    Considering we kick butt in every debate, that is to see that you see the obvious.
    Maybe someday you may win a debate without lying, trolling or acting the fool.
    Good luck.

  47. Mar

    I challenge the 4 or 5 liberals here to join this movement:
    But I doubt they will. When you lie, troll, lie some more and are a hater with a combined 5 brain cells between them, it would be difficult for them to do anything except lie, hate and troll.

  48. jjf

    Who is proud of you here, Mar?

  49. jonnyv

    So… internal CDC documents say that opening schools in full would be “highest risk”. First CDC recommended one thing, Trump complains, they CHANGE their recommendations, and internally are saying something else completely. Cool. This morning DeVos wouldn’t even go on public record to say that opening the schools was safe.

    And someone asked earlier. I DO have 2 children that go to public school in Milwaukee. 11 yo boy & 8 yo girl. And if you have EVER seen 11 year old boys play, you know that is is virtually impossible for them to socially distance from each other. And my daughter is special needs and requires a lot of physical help doing basic things.

    And other than, “just open up and hope”. No one is able to give a serious answer to how does the school system open up and follow recommendations?

    How about we outfit EVERY classroom with a computer and camera and split time with students in and out of the classroom while teaching virtually? That is an idea.

    And anyone saying that this is “just like the flu” is a moron. Point blank. The death statistics might point towards that, but ALL the OTHER health complications say otherwise.

  50. dad29

    Proven–repeat–PROVEN–“complications” like what?  And don’t give us post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc crap, either.  Just because your car died on Sunday doesn’t mean that going to church killed it….

    By the way, you can keep your kids at home, no problem-o!!  Other parents can send their kids to school as always, no problem-o!!  Why do you insist that YOUR fears–justified or not– should rule the entire school district?  Who the Hell do you think YOU are?

  51. Mar

    “Who is proud of you here, Mar?”
    Gee, I didn’t know we are to be popular.

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