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0806, 28 May 20

Predicted Surge in Deaths Fails to Materialize

Again. It seems like every time the anti-civil rights folks claim there will be widespread death if we don’t strip people of their rights, it fails to materialize. Are they incompetent or do they have ulterior motives? Or both?  From Dan O’Donnell

On May 13th, the day of the Supreme Court ruling, Wisconsin saw 291 new cases of Coronavirus out of 4,363 tests for a positive test rate of 6.3%.  Since the virus has an incubation period of between three and 14 days (with an average incubation of five days), the state would expect a massive spike in both positive tests and the positive test rate by today—two weeks after the state reopened—if the reopening was indeed responsible for such a spike.

There hasn’t been a spike in either.  Five days after the court’s ruling on the 13th, the state saw just 144 positive tests even though there were far more total tests (4,828) done than on the 13th for a positive rate of 2.9% on May 18th.

Eight days later, on May 26th, the positive test rate was 3.6% (279 positive tests out of 7,495 total).  Just twice has the positive rate hit or topped 8% since the Supreme Court’s ruling.  By contrast, in April the positive test rate routinely hit 10% per day.  Two weeks to the day after Wisconsin reopened, neither the number of new cases per day nor the percentage of positive tests has even come close to spiking.

Neither has the number of hospitalizations or ICU visits.   In none of the state’s seven regions has there been even a tiny bump per day.  Instead, the numbers have been remarkably consistent throughout the outbreak, suggesting that the reopening has had little to no effect at all on the hospitalization rate and thus the severity of the disease’s impact.

As if that wasn’t enough to disprove the hysterical predictions of death and destruction made just two weeks ago, the virus has somehow become less deadly since Wisconsin started to reopen.

In the 13 days since the Supreme Court’s ruling, there have been 96 Coronavirus deaths for an average of 7.3 per day.  In the 13 days immediately preceding the Court’s ruling, there were 105 Coronavirus deaths for an average of 8.07 per day.

If Wisconsin signed its own death warrant when the Supreme Court struck down “Safer at Home,” then the signature must have been forged.  In no way has the state become a more dangerous place since it reopened.  The “chaos” that Evers repeatedly predicted has been proven to be as nonsensical a forecast as the death and destruction the Governor and his fellow Democrats insisted would result from an in-person election on April 7th.


0806, 28 May 2020


  1. Jason

    I think that this lack of a bump is also showing that the Safer at Home and other state’s lock downs are not effective and in fact far more damaging to society and mortality rates than not.   So much for “flattening the curve”.  The “Science” on that sure sounded good, all the nice charts, and flowery words mean nothing with actual facts.

  2. Merlin

    To the liberal mind this simply proves that failure is working. Indisputable, solid proof.

  3. Mark Hoefert

    Washington County recorded it’s 5th fatality (5/27) since this started, and it was 5 weeks since #4 (4/21) was recorded. Numbers 1- 3 occurred 3/27 through 4/3.

    This is a county of 135,000 population. Over 50% of the workforce works in other counties like Milwaukee & Waukesha.  15% of the workforce comes from adjoining counties.  Because of the interdependence of the economies of the regional counties, Washington County is part of the federal government’s Milwaukee MSA for statistical & HUD grant purposes.

    Our local hospital rented a portable refrigeration unit to handle the predicted onslaught of  COVID deaths.



  4. Mar

    Let’s see how long before jjf and Le Roi admit they were wrong.
    And of course they will also give me credit for being right all along.

  5. Kevin Scheunemann

    …”but experts said”.

    Can’t get this simple model right, but we are suppose to believe religious climate models decades out.

  6. jjf

    Well, I’m so glad this virus business is behind us and all the nanny-ninnies were wrong.  Nothing to worry about!  Go on, lick the handles!  Sing in your church choir.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann


    Is “licking door handles” constantly on your mind?

    That explains a lot…

  8. jjf

    Whatever you do, don’t google that, Kev.

    Tell us about your new sanitizing procedures at the DQ.  Are you doing anything to reassure your customers it’s safe to eat?

  9. Mar

    jjf calling himself a nannie-ninny.

  10. Randall Flagg

    Yesterday WI had the highest single day total in deaths since the pandemic began.

    Hospitalization numbers have not been consistent, they have been increasing.

    But, as usual, I am sure facts won’t get in the way of Trump and his supporters declaring victory.

  11. Randall Flagg

    Trump’s prediction:  15 cases going to 0 in a few days

    Actual cases as of 5/27:    1,678,843

    Approximate Error:  111,922%


  12. Le Roi du Nord

    “Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening,” Trump said. “Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news.”

    djt, July 2018.

  13. Le Roi du Nord


    All that higher level math with confuse and anger the sycophants.  Watch your back.

  14. Randall Flagg

    H1N1 US deaths:  ~12,000 – a disaster according to Trump

    Covid-19 US Deaths: 102,000 and rising – a great job according to Trump


  15. Randall Flagg

    I have always said I am willing to criticize any expert who was off by the same % as Trump.  So far, none have been brought to my attention.

  16. Kevin Scheunemann


    Just let me know when you want to lick the door handles, I’ll make sure they are NOT sanitized beforehand.

  17. jjf

    What’s that, Kev?  You’re not trying to do anything to convince your potential customers that the DQ is a safe place to be?  You think you’ll sell more Dilly Bars by playing it tough this summer?

  18. Kevin Scheunemann


    I was only proposing that for you, since you seen to have some weirdness.    I don’t want you licking straight bleach residue…that can be a problem.

    I you want straight bleach on door handle before hand, we can accomadate.

    Just trying to keep you safe.

  19. jjf

    I wasn’t asking about what you’d do for me.  I’m looking forward to my Free Dilly Bar of Death in August because you admitted you knew someone who died of the Covfefe Virus, but I assumed you’d just send me a coupon.

    What are you doing for today’s customer to assure them you’re not spreading the virus?

  20. dad29

    they have been increasing.

    Yah, it’s horrible.  DOOM  GLOOM  DEATH  DESTRUCTION

    Wisconsin Hospital Ass’n TODAY notes that there are 408 TOTAL ChinaCooties patients in the entire State, down 5 since yesterday, but up 10 since 1 week ago.

    408.  Gracious, goodness.

    There are 2900 beds immediately available (includes ICU, etc.) for the HUGE RUSH of DOOM GLOOM DEATH AND DESTRUCTION that you are counting on.

  21. dad29

    facts won’t get in the way

    Speaking of “facts” aren’t you the one who doesn’t know jack-s%% about Governments ‘interfering’ in businesses?  Owen had to school you on the legal situation of the e-platforms, too.

    You’re an ex-Gummint bureaucrat, no?

  22. Kevin Scheunemann


    When did I admit that? And who was it?

  23. Kevin Scheunemann


    So that is a “no” on you licking the sanitized door handles with generous bleach on them?

    I’m relieved, because your “interest” is somewhat disgusting and unsafe, either way.

  24. Randall Flagg

    Yup. Increasing.  As in going up.  That TrumpVirus has more and more WI citizens in the hospital.

  25. Mar

    The Randall virus, those affected by
    making stupid liberal comments has gone up significantly here.
    It used to be just jjf and Le Roi but now we have Randall,Pat and some idiot named Holland.
    The Randall virus is very serious as it sucks brain cells from the most vulnerable: liberals with 5 brain cells or less.
    I think we need to do a fundraiser for these poor souls. Having 5 brain cells can be so challenging.
    And any money raised would go for their diaper changing and drool catchers.

  26. Mar

    Randall to doctor: “Doctor, why am I feeling so stupid lately?”
    Doctor to Randall: “Congratulations, you have a disease named after you.”.
    Randall to doctor: “Duh, what does that mean?”
    Doctor to Randall “Stop thinking. You only have 5 brain cells left”.

  27. jjf

    Kevin, our bet was that by August you’d know someone who had died of the virus.  It’s not August yet.  Or do you already know someone who’s died of it?

    You’re putting bleach on door handles?  That’s all?  No masks, no testing of employees?  What’s your plan when it hits your people?

    There’s at least one Culvers that shut down completely because they had several employees come down with it.  I know they are a higher-volume operation than yours, but still.


  28. Kevin Scheunemann

    oh jjf,

    I was just cautioning you against licking sanitized door handles because the chemical hazzard can be as great as any bacteria or virus hazzard.    Just because the door handle is sanitized, licking it can still kill you, depending on the chemical concentration.  In fact licking a heavy concentration of sanitizer/bleach can kill you very fast.

    I was discouraging you from licking door handles all together.

    But you are a liberal, emotion trumps facts of these type typically.

  29. jjf

    If you’re putting that much bleach on door handles, you’re doing it wrong.  Hopefully you know that.  Does this Dilly Bar taste like Chlorox to you?

    You’re putting bleach on door handles?  That’s all?  No masks, no testing of employees?  What’s your plan when it hits your people?

  30. Kevin Scheunemann


    Still insisting on licking door handles?

    Find a new hobby.


  31. jjf

    Keep dodging the simple questions, Kev.

    When I went to my local DQ the other day to get a Tiramisu Cake Shake™ the drive-through person was wearing a mask and gloves. You don’t do that?

    It was melty.  Why does it melt so fast?

  32. Kevin Scheunemann

    This story is about the hype of COVID, no about me.

    I was just fascinated you consider door handle licking a legitimate problem.



  33. jjf

    I know I’m more hip than you, so I’ve heard the kids joking about it.  That’s why I told you not to google it.

    I don’t lick door handles.  You know people don’t.  They touch them.  That’s why you’re wiping them down with bleach water.  You know that.

    You just want to avoid discussing what YOU are actually doing in order to attract customers and reassure them that you’re safe if you come to your place to get a Dilly Bar.

  34. Kevin Scheunemann


    My public statements on the matter requested are available on many social media platforms.   I will always answer honest questions from honest people on matter.

    When you gleefully joined in on the klan accusation toward me this week, you have proven yourself to be an awful, dishonst, jerk.

    I do not honor requests from dishonest people.


  35. jjf

    I what the Klan?  Huh?

  36. Kevin Scheunemann


    At 5/28 at 7:07 AM,  on the “Liberty” thread, you belittled and ridiculed me having the CAPS LOCK on when I was refuting Randal’s disgusting, awful, piece of crap, false witness, klan accusation.

    Your dismissal of my excellent comment in response to Randall is clearly siding with the klan accusation.    Then you added this gem,  ”  I thought for sure he was going to run right for the “I’m the least racist” and “I don’t see color.””

    You were despicable and dishonest with that comment, rather than denouncing Randall for his gross indecency and incivility.

    So, I cannot take you with honesty and civility when you side with awful people like Randall.

    When you move back to honesty, decency, and civility, I have no problem answering questions.    A denouncement of Randall’s incivility, and your error in agreement with his incivility, would be a good start.

    Just indicating how you can get back to a decency path.



  37. Le Roi du Nord

    Now this is funny (and hypocritical) coming from the guy who just a few days ago attempted to perpetuate the right-wing lie about the kkk and the 1924 D convention.  Hypocrisy, thy name be kevin !

  38. Le Roi du Nord

    Apologies, I meant to include the quote from k: “When you gleefully joined in on the klan accusation”.

    Fixed it.

  39. MjM

    RandyFlags still bad at simple math:  That TrumpVirus has more and more WI citizens in the hospital.

    By HERC region…

    S.East       Prev.High    350      5/28  292     -58

    N.East       Prev.High      57       5/28   27     -30

    S.Central  Prev.High     69        5/28   51      -18

    N.Central  Prev.High      4         5/28    5       +1

    West           Prev.High    10         5/28   7        -3

    N.West      Prev.High      13        5/28   9       -4

    Fox Valley  Prev.High     12        5/28  18      +6        -112 total


    Fun Facts:  As of 5/28, one county, Milwaukee,  is responsible for 41% of WI positive cases yet 52% of WI deaths,   32 of 72 WI counties have 3.9 % of positive cases and 0 deaths, WI CCPVirus hospitalization/population rate is 0.042% and deaths/population rate is 0.0094%.

  40. Le Roi du Nord

    No k, I will bet a paycheck that I have a better grasp of history than you.  And you prove me correct each and every day.

    But getting back to the 1924 D convention, what is it you claim; that there was a kkk backed candidate?  There was.  Were there numerous ballots cast before a candidate was selected? Yes, there were.  Was the kkk backed candidate selected?  No, he wasn’t.  And therein is the failure of your argument.  Smarter and cooler heads prevailed, unlike the 2016 R convention.

  41. jjf

    He’s not going to respond because you were mean to him that one time.

  42. MjM

    RandyFlags ignores holiday weekend, picks, chooses :  Yesterday [5/27] WI had the highest single day total in deaths [22] since the pandemic began.

    …never mind the previous days of 3, 4, and 3,  part of a group of seven lowest day totals reported since the beginning of May, which is averaging 9.75/day.

    But, as usual, I am sure facts won’t get in the way of your ButTrump!ButTrump!ButTrump! barking.

  43. Le Roi du Nord


    No, k confuses the truth with attacks on his manhood. No mean intended, just enlightenment.

  44. MjM

    DMOTP Jiffy wants to know:  tell me all about…


    Tell me if you see anything peculiar.

    And how does that “curve” in the link you supplied compare to the curve Phony nEvers and his gang of “experts” postulated for shutting down the state?


  45. Randall Flagg

    >And how does that “curve” in the link you supplied compare to the curve >Phony nEvers and his gang of “experts” postulated for shutting down the >state?

    The expert predictions were much more accurate than the “15 cases and going to 0” Trump postulated.

  46. Randall Flagg

    Hey Karen:

    I never used the word klan.  Interesting that you assumed that.  Very telling where your mind is.

  47. jjf

    Well, the page says:

    When using symptom onset date, any downward trends that are seen during the most recent two weeks are usually not true decreases in illness and need to be interpreted with caution. This downward trend usually represents the data lag time; thus, data during the most recent two weeks are highlighted as preliminary data. When people have an acute illness, such as COVID-19, it may take several days for them to see a doctor or be tested. It also takes time for the tests to be completed and the results to be sent to public health to be included in case counts.

  48. MjM

    RandyFlags barks incessantly: than the “15 cases and going to 0” Trump postulated.


    Someone toss Randy a bone, please.


  49. MjM

    DMOTP Jiffy wiffs:  Well, the page says:

    So you can read.  Bravo.

    You missed the obvious, and then either purposely passed over this or it blew over your blockhead like an SR-71…

    “(or by diagnosis date if symptom onset date is missing, or the patient did not have symptoms).”

    Do you understand the implications of that, or do you need it explained to you?

    More simply (just for you),  what has our state “experts” not been telling us?

  50. Randall Flagg

    >>>RandyFlags barks incessantly: than the “15 cases and going to 0” Trump postulated.

    And MJM still hasn’t admitted Trump was much more wrong than Evers or the experts.  You are a devoted Trump follower MjM.

  51. jjf

    MjM, that someone could be tested even if they don’t have symptoms, and their test could be positive?

  52. Mar

    Randy, all the “TV experts” were wrong. Here, jjf and Le Roi were wring because they were like sheeple and believed the sky was falling and they hid on their hole like you did.
    But those who actually study facts instead of theories were right. Like myself and others. We knew the hospitals would not be overrun, we knew the need for ventilators was exergated. We knew EMS could handle it.
    Those who believed in science were proven wrong time after time.
    So suck it up Buttercup.

  53. MjM

    RandyFlags yelps some more: Trump was much more wrong than Evers

    The stupidity of that statement is blinding, but telling.


    Everybody was wrong, dumbass.   That includes your sainted “science experts” of the WHO, CDC, FDA, John Hopkins, IHME,  Fauci,  Palm, Dr. Truelove (not a typo)  and the pols Trump,  nEvers,  Pelosi,  Biden, ChucklesSchumer,  Cuomo,  de Blasio,  Whitmer,  Waltz.

    That you think it makes a difference in this situation if someone one was off by  100%, 1000%, or 10,000,000% just shows how dopey you really are.





  54. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’ll bite on your backtrack…when you say I am cutting holes in “white sheets”, that is NOT a klan reference?

    So I guess you can add liar, to your shameful dishonesty.

    Awful. Just awful.

  55. Jason

    >And MJM still hasn’t admitted Trump was much more wrong than Evers or the experts. You are a devoted Trump follower MjM.

    And Randy Flunk probably also thinks that a person who falls down an elevator shaft and then the building collapses is “much more dead” than someone who just falls down an elevator shaft. Such a simpeton.

  56. Randall Flagg

    Reacting violently to criticism of the leader and attacking the person who criticizes them leader is classic cult behavior.
    from Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

    Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as “persecution”.
    A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
    Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.

  57. Kevin Scheunemann


    You are beneath contempt.

  58. Randall Flagg


    Nobody cares.

  59. Mar

    You know, all these President Trump hating 1 tooth hillbillies here never complain about a policy they don’t like Trump has enacted.
    They mutter Trump and then go to the woods and drink some more moonshine.

  60. dad29

    The expert predictions were much more accurate than the “15 cases and going to 0” Trump postulated.

    What is that……..the 15th time you mentioned Trump’s numbers??

    My, you’re persistent.  And a monomaniac, too!!

  61. Randall Flagg

    Yup, criticizing Trump drives his worshipers nuts!  It’s pure enjoyment for me.

    Just like pointing out the pedophile ring that is the Catholic Church drives Catholics nuts.


  62. MjM

    RandyFlags is in it for: “ ..pure enjoyment for me.”

    Yes, the product of your self-absorption and egoism was evident in your first post on this site. It’s even in your chosen moniker.

    Unwittingly, you are exactly the Trump you ridicule.

  63. Mar

    So, another moronic governor decides to kill his state even more. The governor of Hawaii decided to extend the state’s mandatory 14 day quarantine for visitors.
    Visitors to the state is down 95% and they cannot grow enough pineapple to put people to work.
    So, the people of Hawaii are being forced to endure another moronic decision by a liberal governor.

  64. jjf

    Dad29…  Minor spelling error.  I think you meant “monooooooooomaniaaaaaac.”

  65. Randall Flagg

    MJM, thanks for being one of the Trump worshipers that goes apoplectic every time he is criticized!  Without people like you what ever would I do for fun?

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