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2007, 26 Jan 20

Trump is a Fascist

So says a fascist.

Barack Obama called Donald Trump a “fascist” in a phone conversation with Hillary Clinton’s running mate during the 2016 presidential election, a new documentary claims.

Tim Kaine, who ran on the Democratic ticket with Mrs Clinton, recalled the exchange during a meeting with Clinton that was caught on camera in 2016.

Kaine said: “President Obama called me last night and said: ‘Tim, remember, this is no time to be a purist. You’ve got to keep a fascist out of the White House.'” Kaine then laughs, adding that Obama “knows me and he knows that I could tend to err.”

Clinton replies, nodding: “I echo that sentiment.” She then puts her hands to her chest and says: “But that’s really — the weight of our responsibility is so huge.”


2007, 26 January 2020


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Well stated. Obama was a fascist. Making school lunches total puke…for the glory of the centrailized socialist cult.

  2. Le Roi du Nord


    And you still don’t know the difference between a socialist and a fascist.  Truly sad.

  3. Kevin Scheunemann


    And you still don’t understand that socialism IS economic fascism! Economics is the power to control. When you centralize economics by socialist policy through increased regulation, taxation, or wealth confiscations…fascism.

    Socialism is fascism and that us why socialist empires like Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mugabe, Chavez, are both left wing and evil.

  4. steveegg

    Obama is a Trotskyite, but tyrants of a feather….

  5. Le Roi du Nord


    Another great example of how you apply whatever meaning you want to words in order to justify your inability to grasp reality. Since words have no set meaning to you, does what you say/type really have meaning?

  6. Merlin

    Labeling Trump as a fascist incorrectly implies that Trump is radical right. Trump is authoritarian, but has never stood on radical right ground a day in his life. I suspect Trump doesn’t really possess a true political ideology at all, but pressed to assign a label I’d say he most closely aligns with the old 1980s New York state Democrats. That those folks core values would come to be identified as being fascist tells you just how deranged today’s Left has become.

    Democrats still don’t understand how and why Donald Trump became President of the United States. This is an ignorance we need not correct anytime soon. Keep on keeping on, lefties.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann

    Oh Nord,

    I have a deeper criticism of leftist authoritarians, like yourself, that have a child-like ignorance that economic collectivism is not authoritarian.

    Even the socialist programs in U.S. you cite as good, like social security, has an awful authoritarian bent to it in its execution.

  8. Mar

    From Merriam: “1often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”
    This fits Obama a whole lot more that Trump.
    Neither one is a dictator. But Obama is more in favor of severe economic and social regimentation and Obama definitely supported forcible suppression of the opposition. There is no doubt about that with all things he did to conservatives. From the IRS scandal, to spying on the Trump campaign, with many things in between.
    Obama is a fascist, based on Merriam’s definition.

  9. jjf

    Merlin:  Or as they put it on the Simpsons when discussing Fox News, “Not racist, but #1 with racists.” 

  10. Le Roi du Nord


    Once again, you fail to comprehend the common usage of words.  Get a tutor and a good dictionary.

    And how do you feel about this type of social control coming from Paula White, trumps spiritual advisor, ““In the name of Jesus, we command all Satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now”??

  11. Pat

    I don’t think Trump is a fascist. But I’m positive he’s a thug, and thugs are evil bastards.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    Can’t help it if you have liberal cult blindness.   Why are you trying to divert the subject, again?

  13. Le Roi du Nord


    Not trying to divert at all, but rather wondering how an authoritarian anti-abortion guy like you feels about an advisor to trump asking for the equivalent to divine abortions?

  14. dad29

    he’s a thug

    Sure.  Except the definition is impossible to reconcile with what we know.

    a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer. –

    So Robber?  Murderer?  Ruffian?  Vicious or cruel?

    One would have to have lace panties to think of Trump as “vicious or cruel” and there’s no record of robbery or murder.

    So, Pat, you wear lace panties.  I can say that as easily as you can say that Trump is a thug, and with identical justification.

  15. Mar

    Pat in lace panties. Hard to visualize but possibly true.

  16. Mar

    Hey Le Roi, how is Obama not a facist?

  17. Le Roi du Nord


    Since k has called Obama a socialist and a liberal countless times, that sorta eliminates Obama as a fascist. Or perhaps k has recently changed his personal definition of those words.  You will have to ask him.

    But this sure fits trump to a tee, “that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocraticgovernment headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”

  18. Mar

    Le Roi, I don’t care what Kwvin says.
    And who said that quote?

  19. Le Roi du Nord


    k will be disappointed with your attitude. But that means one of you is wrong. That won’t play well in Kewaskum.

    Based on what you wrote earlier the quote was from Mr/Ms Merriam

  20. Mar

    Well, Le Roi, I suggest my quote and your quote have to resolve themselves as we both quoted Merriam.

  21. jjf

    Anyone care to define “severe economic and social regimentation?”

  22. Pat

    Dud garbled, “ One would have to have lace panties to think of Trump as “vicious or cruel” and there’s no record of robbery or murder.”

    That’s funny, Dud. I read somewhere that the definition of a thug was someone who is an evil bastard. I guess the person who said that had his head up his ass.

  23. Mar

    jjf: Obamacare

  24. jjf

    Decades of regulation and requirements for health care, decades of companies pushing it on their employees, and Obamacare comes along and that’s what you’re going to declare “severe economic and social regimentation?”  And, say, a trade war or twelve, doesn’t rise on your radar?

  25. Mar

    No jjf, it doesnt. Obamacare affected the healthcare industry to its detriment. He lied about it so many times. It also affected other people, like part time
    workers who had their hours slashed.
    Obamacare was a disaster to the majority of people.
    And your defending it? Seriously?

  26. Kevin Scheunemann


    Socialists are fascists. Hitler’s own political party had “socialist” in it. How thick are you?

    Are you still ticked Hitler made a deal with his special socialist kindred spirit Stalin and stabbed him in the back? Academic leftists following WW 2 wereupset btmy that for decades because Stalin was their darling. Turns out Stalin was a standard socialist thug all along.

    How much historical evidence do you need that socialist policy ends in same way? Authoritarianism.

    Comparing saving innocent babies from slaughter of evil leftists is hardly authoritarianism…it is called liberation from the socialist Planned Parenthood death camps, and being a good, decent,human being.

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    No k, fascism is not socialism. Never was, not even in your dreams.

    So you are alright with an advisor to trump advocating for divine abortions?

  28. Kevin Scheunemann


    It is difficult to speak to your delusion of past socialists in practice.

    You should read Radical Son by David Horowitz which shows how “in the bag” for Stalin academic leftists were in 50s and 60s. Historical and human rights
    ignorance is an awful socialist trait.

  29. Le Roi du Nord

    No k, by definition socialists are not fascists. And no amount of aggressive ignorance on your part will change that.

    So you are ok with the divine abortions?

  30. dad29

    fascism is not socialism

    But fascism accommodates socialism much more easily than a republican form of government, of course.

    Obama was very much a Socialist (or Commie…take your choice) so he used the “pen and phone” method of governance rather than going through all the bother of legislation.

    Maybe he was a Fascist.  But he certainly had aspirations to be a dictator–and achieved some of that during his time.

    Patsy, your lace undies are waaaayyyyyy too tight.  YOU are the one who stated that ‘thugs are evil bastards’ in this thread.  Maybe the panties are tight because you have your head up your ass??

  31. Pat


    I must have read the evil bastard definition on some bat shit crazy sight and misunderstood what the fool was saying.

  32. Mar

    Well, Pat, cite your source please, with accompanying arguments.

  33. Pat



  34. jjf

    Wow, Dad29, you’re a mean fellow.  What will St. Peter say?

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