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2100, 07 Nov 19

Special Session to Restrict Civil Rights Ends with No Action Taken

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The Senate special session on gun control legislation called for by Democratic Gov. Tony Evers lasted less than a minute.

Evers called on lawmakers to convene Thursday at 2 p.m. to take up the matter. At 8 p.m. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, called the session to order with one smack from his gavel and no other lawmakers in the room. He adjourned the session a few seconds later, avoiding debate or a vote on the gun control measures Democratic lawmakers had been advocating for throughout the day.

“I think if there are bills that would make sense to Republican legislators, that we would call ourselves into regular session or extraordinary session to take those up,” Fitzgerald said. “I think the governor know the bills that he’s offered are not going to pass the Legislature … As they’ve been presented by the governor, there’s no momentum for them.”

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2100, 07 November 2019

61 Comments

  1. Mar

    Apparently, the Democrats could not care less either.

  2. MjM

    “The Senate special session on gun control legislation called for by Democratic Gov. Tony Evers lasted less than a minute.”

    Priceless.

  3. dad29

    You’ll notice that there is NO DESCRIPTION of the bills put forth by Tokin’Tony the Tuna.

    Almost as if even the Press (and his fellow Statist Democrats) know how bad those bills really are.  Hmmmmmm??

  4. Mar

    Please, Dad, stop insulting Tuna.

  5. Le Roi du Nord

    So much for fitzvos representing the will of the people….

    “A recent Marquette Law School Poll found 80% of Wisconsinites support expanded background checks — including nearly 70% of gun owners”.  from the attached article above.

  6. dad29

    Yah, yah.  They’re against Teh Peeples!!

    That’s why Republicans have VERY large majorities in both chambers of the Legislature.

  7. jjf

    Le Roi, with so few people looking for a change, we’ll just need to follow behind Fitz and Vos, as they know what’s good for us.  Not even worth talking about!

  8. Pat

    Dud says, “ That’s why Republicans have VERY large majorities in both chambers of the Legislature.”

    No, Dud. It’s because of gerrymandering.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    PAt,

    Is it also gerrymandering in CA, the Marxist run cesspit?

  10. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    In case you didn’t notice, the actions, bills, polling, article,  and comments are about a WI issue, not CA.  Stay current.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    “Gerrymandering”is the cry of the party not in power.

    So is overwhelming Democrat cesspit controlof CA, “gerrymandering”?

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    Regarding the above article it makes no difference.  But you know that right?  Or are you so out of the grasp of reality that you think the electorate in CA has control of the WI legislature?

  13. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Pat made a ridiculous assertion.   I am testing how honest he is.

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    In case you are unaware, the state of CA has the 5th largest economy in the world.  So it is hardly a “Marxist run cesspit”.  But then facts and reality have always been problematic for you.  So it is highly hypocritical of you to test the honesty of others when you refuse to practice it yourself.   But go ahead, make more ridiculous assertions.

  15. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Venezuela was one of largest economies on earth….

    Why do you avoid the question about Gerrymandering in CA?

    You are being dishonest.    If it is Gerrymandering in WI, it is certainly gerrymandering by evil Marxist Democrats in CA.

  16. Pat

    Kevin claimed, “ Pat made a ridiculous assertion. I am testing how honest he is.”

    Kevin, are you asserting that Wisconsin districts have not been gerrymandered?

  17. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    That was then, CA is 5th right now.  Or do your ideological blinders prevent you from seeing anything except what is behind you?

    And what did I say that was dishonest?  Be specific, facts are a bonus.  Thanks.

  18. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat,

    I’m asserting “gerrymandering”is the fallback cry of party not in power.   Are you saying California is not gerrymandered?

     

  19. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    So you deny CA is Gerrrymandered?

    Why?

    Facts would be a bonus.

     

  20. Pat

    Kevin,

    You made the accusation that I “made a ridiculous assertion”. I assume that you are saying that the “ridiculous assertion” was in regards to me saying that Wisconsin districts have been gerrymandered. Are you saying they are not gerrymandered? You should easily be able to answer that with a simple yes or no.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat,

    Are CA districts gerrymandered?

    I need to know how honest your assertion is before we have an honest discussion.

    Otherwise, it is a dishonest discussion.

  22. Pat

    Kevin,

    I believe California does have gerrymandered districts as they were drawn by partisan legislators. Legislators will be removed from the process due to the passing of proposition 20. A group comprised of Republican and Democratic citizens will be responsible for drawing district maps. This group is called The Citizens Redistricting Commission.

    Now can we have an honest discussion? What’s your yes or no answer to my assertion that Wisconsin districts are gerrymandered?

  23. Kevin Scheunemann

    So we can agree gerrymandering occurs in every state. It is clear gerrymandering is thwarting the will of people in CA by disproportionately electing liberal evil. At least here it largely blunts bad people from being elected in state legislature.

    This CA proposal will likely end in stalemate if power is truly equal…requiring court battles.

  24. dad29

    “Gerrymander” IS the cry of the losing party.

    Evers heads the losing party, which is apropos.

    Let’s see how he does on dope-smoking.

  25. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    I don’t care about CA, as I don’t live there and never will. And it looks like they have addressed the situation. Too bad WI won’t even talk about it. Awful, just awful.

  26. Pat

    Kevin,

    First, I don’t know about every state and how they draw their maps. To say, “So we can agree gerrymandering occurs in every state” would be a lie on your part. I don’t know how every state goes about drawing their maps. But I do know how Wisconsin drew it’s map.

    Second, you didn’t answer my question. How disingenuous of you. I thought you wanted to have an “honest discussion”. I guess that’s another lie.

    Third, it appears that California is attempting to take steps to eliminate gerrymandering. Something all states should attempt.

  27. jjf

    Dad29, the WisGOP redraw the lines in a shameful way.  They did it in the dark because they didn’t want anyone to see how they did it.  Then they erased the hard drives to cover their tracks.  Shades of “Buttery males!”

    Cover your eyes and plug your ears if you want to pretend.  You don’t think they were deliberately optimizing to maximize the number of GOP seats?  If not, then what were they doing?  What word would you like to describe that?  “Gerrymandering” doesn’t fit?  You have a better word?

  28. Jason

    Does anyone care that all the legal action on the supposed Gerrymandering has gone no where, in the last 4 years? Of course not, the losers still claim it but can’t get legal relief for it, so its left to bitchy blog trolls to try to keep it alive. Sorry bitches, you lost.

  29. Jason

    >Then they erased the hard drives to cover their tracks. Shades of “Buttery males!”

    More like “shades of Hillary Clinton”.. but whatever dumdum.

  30. dad29

    You say “shameful” I say “successful.”

    And SCOTUS agrees.

    But just to show you I’m a nice guy, I have activated the world’s smallest violin and it’s playing “My Heart Pumps Purple Piss for You” as we type this.

  31. Pat

    Jason,

    What idiotic drivel you spew. Abortion is legal, but yet there are people who are “bitchy blog trolls” that keep that alive.

    I consider politicians picking their voters versus voters picking their politicians morally repugnant.

  32. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat,

    Then pove gerrymandering is occurring WI. Courts have said it is not.

    Nord,

    Of course you do not care about CA,because you ignore the consequences of Marxist cesspit ideology you lean towards.

  33. Pat

    Kevin,

    Your answer is no. Wisconsin district map is not gerrymandered. Why couldn’t you be adult enough to just say so instead of playing games.

  34. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    To make that Marxist claim without any proof doesn’t make you any more correct, nor enhance your credibility.

  35. Paul

    Stick a loaded gun in your mouth and pull the trigger, Le Roi du Bore.

  36. jjf

    So why was the WisGOP so afraid of letting the public see how they carried out this important act, Dad29?  They weren’t acting like they were proud of what they did.  They acted like they were ashamed, like they knew what they were doing stank to high heaven.

  37. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat,

    I was asking for you to prove to me it is gerrymandered.

    Court says it is not.

    So what is basis for your claim?

  38. Pat

    Kevin,

    What court said Wisconsin districts aren’t gerrymandered.

  39. Mar

    The US Supreme court said the plaintiffs had no standing in the case, so Wisconsin won.
    Of course there is gerrymandering going on, no matter what state your are in It can’t be helped. But if it is based on discrimination, such as race, then it can be illegal.

  40. Pat

    Kevin asserts the court said there is no gerrymandering.

  41. Pat

    The Supreme Court ruled, “partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts,”

    John Roberts said, “excessive partisanship in districting” is “incompatible with democratic principles.” Yet in writing for a 5-4 majority, he contended the U.S. Supreme Court has no authority or legal standards to limit it.

    No where in the ruling was it stated that there is no gerrymandering.

  42. Kevin Scheunemann

    Pat,

    The court determined it was an issue outside its jurisdiction.

    The reason it got to USSC is because lower courts ruled against the liberal whiners on gerrymander issue.

    So prove to me there is gerrymandering when courts have rejected the argument.

  43. Pat

    Kevin,

    Didn’t you say, “ So we can agree gerrymandering occurs in every state.”

    I draw the assumption by that statement you agree that there is gerrymandering.

    You said you wanted to have an honest discussion, and in order to have that, and before you answered my yes or no question, I needed to answer your question about if California was gerrymandered. I fulfilled your requests. And now you play more of your dishonest games. More lies. Awful, just awful.

  44. Kevin Scheunemann

    Did you agree it occurs in every state?

    I did not see your agreement.

    If it does, which is right of party in power, then WI is no different than any other state and your original statement acts like it is suppose to be a real excuse.

  45. Pat

    What a dishonest and small person you are. Awful, just awful.

  46. dad29

    Dear Jiffy,

    *Yawn*

    Elect more Democrats.  Then YOU can gerrymander!

  47. jjf

    Way to address the substance of the issue, Dad29!  Plug your ears and pretend that no harm can be done, but then tell others that if they take control, they can harm, too!

  48. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Are you familiar with how Iowa sets their district boundaries? Would you be willing to endorse that method for WI?

  49. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    I support a New Hampshire model.

  50. Le Roi du Nord

    So is that a no?

  51. Le Roi du Nord

    FYI, the existing NH method is as partisan as WI.

  52. Pat

    New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, vetoed a bipartisan bill Friday that would have created an independent redistricting commission to draw the state’s voting maps.

    The bill would have asked a commission made up of 15 citizens — five Republicans, five Democrats, and five unaffiliated members — to draw the maps used for legislative, congressional, and Executive Council districts. Politicians would still vote to approve those maps, but they wouldn’t be allowed to draw the lines themselves,

  53. Mar

    Pat, would have appointed the so called, unaffiliated?

  54. Pat

    It appears that Republicans don’t think they can hold their seats unless they gerrymander districts in their favor. Awful. Just awful.

  55. Mar

    Pat, pp winning has consequences. Suck it up, Buttercup.

  56. Pat

    Is that a direct quote from the founders, Mar?

  57. Le Roi du Nord

    It isn’t really winning when you have to tilt the field in your favor.

  58. Mar

    Pat, pretty much yes.
    Le Roi, actually it is winning. Next time, get better candidates.
    Us conservatives had to endure Obama for 8 years.
    Now tell me, are City of Milwaukee’s aldermanic districts gerrymandered? Dollar to donuts, it is.

  59. Le Roi du Nord

    Last I looked Obama won by clear majorities both times.  The orange one didn’t.  But we are still stuck with him for the rest of his last term.

    Re Milwaukee, I don’t know.  I haven’t lived there since the early 70’s so it really doesn’t matter to me.  But I would fully support a truly independent and nonpartisan redistricting method for any and all municipalities in WI, Milwaukee included.

  60. dad29

    LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy wants to bet his pensions on a (D) victory in ’00??

    Heh.  A sucker is born every minute.  Which Wack-doodle is going to defeat Trump?  Lizzie?  Bloomie?  Bernie?  Hell, if Biden gets the nomination, he won’t remember what he’s running for…..

    Yah, it looks great for you guys.  And that brokered convention coming up……that always makes Teh Peeples feel real good about the nominee…

    Heh.

  61. Le Roi du Nord

    FYI.   The WI Counties Assoc.  passed a resolution supporting the creation of a non-partisan procedure for the preparation of legislative and congressional redistricting plans.  Hopefully our legislature will take heed.

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