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0928, 17 Oct 19

Menomonee Falls School Board Pretends to Listen to Public

Heh.

MENOMONEE FALLS, Wis. (CBS 58) — 31 public school districts use Native American mascots, including the Menomonee Falls Indians.

The school board got an earful Wednesday night from people on both sides of the debate.

Many times at meetings like this, one side of the debate shows up in force. But on Wednesday, public comments were split almost right down the middle.

Parents, alumni and students turned out to have their voices heard Wednesday.

“It would be a ridiculous and useless amount of money to change an F with a couple of feathers sticking out of it.”

As Mark Belling exclusively uncovered, this is part of a faux process by the superintendent and school board to change the mascot. They want to do it. They are going to do it. And the meeting last night was just for show.

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0928, 17 October 2019

25 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    The perpetual liberal outrage bullies are out in full force again.

    Liberalism and political correctness is America’s cancer.

     

  2. jjf

    It’s not a “faux process” if the Superintendent and then the School Board wanted to change something.

  3. Merlin

    This is nothing new. They’ve been quietly implementing these changes for quite a while already. The F’n feathers logo has already replaced just about all of the previous Indian references visible to the general public thru routine building maintenance. Ditto for the sports uniforms, district vehicles, etc.. You’d have to look pretty hard to find anything left that could be considered offensive, other than maybe the name Indians.

  4. dad29

    Jiffy, it’s a fake “process.”  No different from Nattering Nabob of Nancy’s fake “process” in the House.

    Waste of time and money, merely optics.  Looks good for the cameras–which is good, because Democrats cannot read, so visuals…..

  5. jjf

    See what the Fox News diet has done for your soul, Dad29?  Demonize your friends, family, neighbors…

  6. Le Roi du Nord

    dad (jason told me I couldn’t refer to you as dud anymore.  You OK with that?):

    Could you expand on your “fake process” claim in the HR?  Perhaps you could include what the process is.  Facts would be a bonus.  Thanks.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,

    I’m more concerned what godless liberal fake news, such as CNN, or PMSNBC does to your soul.

  8. Mark Hoefert

    Meeting 10/16/2019: Board of Education Special Meeting

    re: Mascot

    https://go.boarddocs.com/wi/mfalls/Board.nsf/files/BGYPND653597/$file/MASCOT%20(1).pdf

     

    Email discovered by Open Records Request:

    Superintendent: “While my tenure is still in its first year we have begun a process which while slow will ultimately result in a new mascot or a new superintendent.  In our rebranding process for the district we have formally adopted the Feathered F you referenced.  We anticipate a future change to the Falcons.  We have begun work to eliminate references to Indians wherever possible.  Our current Athletic Director has been helpful in that effort. This summer we will paint over references that were added just two years ago without approval of our leadership team.  I have initiated discussions with our board.”

     

    Meeting tonight @ 6:00: Board of Education Closed Session

    re: Personnel Matter Discussion

    Maybe his email should have stated: “will ultimately result in a new mascot and a new superintendent”  He should not assume “or”.

    Don’t let the door hit you on your ass on the way out.

     

     

     

  9. jjf

    For one, it doesn’t cause me to say “awful, just awful” all the time.

  10. Mark Hoefert

    It’s not a “faux process” if the Superintendent and then the School Board wanted to change something.

    It is a “faux process” when stakeholders are invited to give input for a decision that has already been made and implemented.

  11. Mark Hoefert

    One of the students:  “”At its core, this is a student problem, we are the ones who are now bearing the name Indians.”

    No empathy forthcoming from Elizabeth Warren.

  12. jjf

    You must be new here, Mark.  Never seen anything like that before?  Ever been to a “hearing” at the Capitol?

  13. dad29

    You can call me whatever you want, LR.  Unlike snowflake Superintendents, I can take it.  Like Rhett Butler, dear, I don’t give a damn.

    The fake “process” in the HR (as you call it) is “impeachment inquiry.”  Haven’t you heard of it?  Do they have the intertubes in your village?

  14. Kevin Scheunemann

    Jjf,

    That is because you are willing to tolerate nearly every indecent action there is.

    The only time you have value judgement is when good people try to ostracize bad behavior. And in that scenario, you seem to always defend bad behavior.

  15. Jason

    >The fake “process” in the HR (as you call it) is “impeachment inquiry.”

    It’s quite funny to see the little Demmycrats wriggling now that they have been asked to enumerate the exact law broken… I hear the best they can come up with is “extortion”. Hahaha

  16. Mark Hoefert

    @ John Foust: You must be new here, Mark.  Never seen anything like that before?  Ever been to a “hearing” at the Capitol?

    Have not ever been to a Capitol hearing.

    But not unexpected that you would jump in and attempt to make it an apples to pizza comparison.

    I have been exposed to the HUD comment process when new rules have been proposed in the Code of Federal regulations. Ultimately the comments are taken into consideration, and the consideration given to the comments is expressed  in the run up to the final rules as written.

    At the local level, school boards and administrators best damn well pay attention to what the stakeholders are saying, at least if they ever plan on presenting a referendum to them for approval.  In fact, we just had a scenario like that at West Bend.  Architectural firm facilitated citizen study committee to review options for dealing with an obsolete school. Done on spec, would get payoff when new school is built. Also engaged a firm that does “push poll” – convinces community of the need and cost for new facility. Some of the skeptical members felt that a new school was a foregone conclusion before they even met, and they were there just for window dressing.

    Ultimate result? Effort went down in flames. No spending approved.

     

     

  17. Le Roi du Nord

    dud:

    Oh, I’ve heard of it, but was asking why you claim it is “fake”.  Got an answer for that, or just blowing smoke?

  18. Mar

    I graduated from Oconomowoc HS and ran cross country and track.
    They gave us free gym bags and on the bag said ‘Home of the Coons”. Of course they were referring to raccoons.
    I can imagine the leftys would object to this nickname.

  19. dad29

    Doh.

    The outcome–impeachment–was determined the minute Trump was sworn in (in fact, 19 minutes after the ceremony, the WaPo printed an article to that effect.  NINETEEN MINUTES!!)

    The “process” is a long, long, long, circus parade consisting of  complete lies, half-truths, and gross distortions.  Plenty of poop on the street, too!!  So not only is it a waste of time and money, it’s also a pack of lies.  But it’s visual, so (D) voters will understand it,

    Can’t wait until it gets to the Senate, because at the trial, Trump can call any witness he wants to.  That will be a lot of fun.

  20. jjf

    Dad29:  Buttery males!

    Mar: Yes, Oconomowoc moved away from “Coons” a long time ago.  You might still spot a “Cooney” here or there when someone sneaks it out.  I doubt it’s policy. But tell me why it’s a left/right issue?  And what year were you there?

    Kevin:  No, I think any of these processes, be it school board or state legislature, would be better if there was more stakeholder involvement.  It’s not a right/left issue to suggest that those in power, elected or appointed, will attempt to steer situations.

    With the hidden debate of the state caucus system, almost all bills are a foregone conclusion and the votes have been counted in advance.  The hearings are handpicked and the public, well, if you want to write your name down, and sit over there for eight hours, there’s a snowball’s chance.  I’m for openness and public input.  If you have a plan to keep admins from doing their job, please tell us all how and why.

    Mark: Sometimes the push polling and the consultants get the job done.  Sometimes they don’t.  The legislature created that situation.  For that matter, the push for shiny and bigger and better generally comes from the citizenry, too, and sometimes it’s from the people who want to steal kids away from the adjacent district, and the legislature created that situation, too.  Sometimes the local good ol’ boys and girls push the administration to do something or not do something.

  21. Mar

    jjf, I graduated in 1979. And it is generally liberals who find offense in nicknames. Though I find it a bit embarrassing to bring the bags to cross country meets in Milwaukee.

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    Well dud, I disagree with you on pretty much all of your claims.  History and truthiness do as well.

     

  23. dad29

    What YOU think doesn’t matter, and it’s no surprise that you claim adherence to ‘truthiness,’ which is obviously not congruent with truth.

  24. Le Roi du Nord

    dud:

    What matters is what the actually process is, and what is discovered during that process.  You haven’t provided anything other than your opinion, and I disagree with it.  And truth be told, I really don’t care what you think.

    Let’s wait until the process runs it’s course, then you can spew some more faux news talking points..

  25. jjf

    Well, Mar, if you find “Coons” embarrassing, at least you are beginning to recognize the problem.

    I’m class of ’81 OHS, so we were there at the same time.

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