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2125, 16 Oct 19

Chicago Teachers Strike

For the kids, right?

CHICAGO (AP) — Chicago parents and community groups are scrambling to prepare for a massive teachers’ strike set to begin Thursday, prompting the city to preemptively cancel classes in the nation’s third-largest school district.

The Chicago Teachers Union confirmed Wednesday night that its 25,000 members would not return to their classrooms Thursday after months of negotiation between the union and Chicago Public Schools failed to resolve disputes over pay and benefits, class size and teacher preparation time.

The strike is Chicago’s first major walkout by teachers since 2012 and city officials announced early Wednesday that all classes had been canceled for Thursday in hopes of giving more planning time to the parents of more than 300,000 students.


2125, 16 October 2019


  1. Mar

    More union thugs following their master union leaders, who make way more than your average teacher.

  2. Kevin Scheunemann

    Typical uncaring liberals.

    It is never about the children.

  3. jjf

    How would you like teachers to negotiate for better working conditions or benefits at their job?

  4. Mar

    Bargain without going on strike. Very simple concept.

  5. Kevin Scheunemann


    What are you talking about?  Every teacher says “its for the children”.   any pay should be viewed as gratitude for doing what they love.

    …unless it is not for children.

  6. jjf

    Yeah, “it’s for the children” is a lazy argument in most contexts.

    It’s used by voucher advocates, too.  It’s really about religious indoctrination and redistribution of public funds to religious purposes, but “it’s for the children.”

    Bargain without going on strike.  Should all strikes be illegal?

  7. dad29

    Jiffy, religion is actually for the benefit of the country.  You can ask the Founders about that.

  8. Mar

    “Bargain without going on strike. Should all strikes be illegal?”
    Yes, if it affects the safety and well being of the public, especially minors.
    This strike should be considered child abuse.

  9. jjf

    The Founders thought slavery was pretty neat, too.

  10. Mar

    Oh, right, jjf, those poor poor teachers who are in one of the highest paidcschool districts in the country are just slaves.
    No matter they signed a contract, no matter than can switch employers or profession, no matter that they have weekends and holidays and summers off.
    But, oh the humanity, they are jyst slaves to the slave masters, the taxpayer.
    But it’s nice to know jjf, that by making light of slavery, you really don’t think slavery was that big of deal. Must have been one of those things that just happened.

  11. Jason

    >The Founders thought slavery was pretty neat, too.

    What a lazy argument.

  12. jjf

    Lazy?  You think Dad29 isn’t aware of the actual religious beliefs of the Founders, and why they didn’t want religion in government?  Why is he pretending he’s ignorant of that history?

    Oh, and the Bible has lots to say about the benefits of slavery, too.

    Or if you want to stay a bit closer to the topic, tell me that voucher folks don’t use the lazy “it’s for the children” argument.

  13. Kevin Scheunemann


    1.)I dare you to show me 1 verse in bible that talks about the “benefits of slavery”.

    2.) Slavery in 1st century was a much different concept, having to do with working off debt that were unable to be repaid. It was not close to the abuse the godless inflicted African Americans in this nation.

    3.) The true Christian founders wanted to rid slavery out of Constitution, but faced 2 Satans at time: defeating King of England or the godless advocating slavery in South. Christianity eventually defeated the godless slaveholders in the South….who were Democrats.

  14. jjf

    Wow, you need to read more history, Kevin.  So slavery is a good system to have people pay off debts?  Tell me more!

  15. Kevin Scheunemann


    Where did you get that out of what I said? In 1st century, slavery was a largely a system where one worked to pay off bad debts. I did not declare that a “good system”. The bible did urge grace, kindness, and love with anyone involved in that civil debt repayment practice at the time.

    I am waiting for your bible passage that backs up your claim.

    Bible has a lot to say about false witness. Would you like to review that too?

  16. Mar

    Meanwhile the CPS strike has gone for 8 days now. CPS football teams that made it to State have forfeited their games, some kids might lose scholarships but the strike is for the children.
    Really, it is.
    Meanwhile the idiot teachers and staff did not plan on the syrikelasting this long and they are about to lose their health insurance. This proves once again that teachers are not the brightest people on earth.

  17. Kevin Scheunemann


    I was commenting on 1st Century AD Roman slavery, not Old Testament slavery.

    Even your Marxist, biased, godless, Wiki page does not back your contention that the bible advocates slavery.

  18. Le Roi du Nord

    Rationalizing slavery based on when it occurred.  That takes a pretty twisted analysis.

  19. Kevin Scheunemann


    No one is rationalizing slavery.    I was indicatating the nature of slavery in 1st century.   It was much different than the godless, utterly Satanic slavery that happened in America.

  20. Mar

    Le Roi and jjf, I sure hope you ate not comparing union teachers to slaves.

  21. Le Roi du Nord

    So when is slavery not slavery?  OT, 100AD, Pre-civil war US, if you are a slave what difference does it make?

  22. jjf

    Mar, of course not.

    Le Roi, see, it’s simple, in the Bible times, slavery was kind of like owing money on a credit card you can never pay off.  It’s just business, and God thought it was OK back then.  And Kevin does, too!  But he hasn’t explained why that kind of slavery isn’t OK today.  Something must’ve changed!  But Biblical morality is absolute, like Kevin.

  23. Kevin Scheunemann


    Learn some history.

    Bible is not advocating, and you cannot point one verse!

    In Roman times those that could not repay debts could work off debt through servitude to pay it back. The bible told both parties to act with kindness and grace toward both parties. The bible encouraged forgiveness in such a relationship.

    Slavery in America was not a debt repayment system. It was godless, evil people, who turned out to be Democrats, keeping prisoners. The bible had dire eternal warning to those who withhold rightful wages.

    You are welcome to bible study on subject to help change your godless understanding that is in error.

  24. Kevin Scheunemann


    Because it has nothing to do with topic at hand.

    You were the one that brought up a giant lie about bible (that it advocated slavery), I corrected your off-topic slander…and you continue to divert attention from selfishness of these liberal teachers….why is that?

  25. jjf

    You’re right, Kevin.  Topic drift is a terrible disease.  Awful.  As awful as evolution and a human origin for any climate change.

  26. Kevin Scheunemann


    Liberals, like yourself, love to topic drift to take focus off the horrendous consequences of liberal ideology.

    Why is that? Why can’t you ever focus on topic at hand rather than attacking the person, attacking the bible, or whatever other indecency you drag up to take focus off bad liberal ideology?

  27. Mar

    I love how the extremist teacher union is battling an ultra liberal Black and lesbian mayor of Chicago.
    Apparently, being Black, lesbian and very liberal buys you very little love in Chicago, even though she was just elected this year.

  28. jjf

    Kevin, see above where I started out by asking “How would you like teachers to negotiate for better working conditions or benefits at their job?”

    Mar at least answered my question.

    And then I reminded you that religious vouchers are often said to be “for the kids” too.  I suspected you wouldn’t like that.  It was bait, bait I tell you!  Awful, just awful!

    And then Dad29 didn’t answer any strike-related way.

    And then Mar, to his credit, answered fairly.

    Should I go on?

  29. Merlin

    Not much love of any kind in Chicago anymore.

  30. Kevin Scheunemann


    I answered your question direct and succinctly.

    Can’t help it if you cannot admit the teachers here are selfish and don’t care about the children.

    You were the one that started mumbling about slavery.

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