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1627, 17 Oct 17

Wisconsin Finishes With $579 Million Surplus

Fantastic. Let’s return it to the taxpayers. That would be about $100 for every man, woman, and child in the state. I’m sure a family of 4 would appreciate a $400 check before Christmas.

The state finished 2016-17 with a surplus of $579 million, a better ending balance than what the Legislative Fiscal Bureau had previously projected.

The last LFB estimate of a $467 million ending balance, though, did not include a final look at expenditures over the fiscal year. The Department of Administration wrote in its annual fiscal report expenses came in about $41 million less than had been expected, while revenues were up.

Gov. Scott Walker’s office touted it as the second largest closing balance for a fiscal year since 2000. The guv did not call for any new spending, though a spokesman noted Walker has previously urged lawmakers to use money saved through his budget vetoes to cover a $9.7 million boost in aid for small, rural districts in 2018-19.


1627, 17 October 2017


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Good government.

    Makes Doyle look even worse now.

    When will liberals learn that conservative policies mean prosperity.

  2. Pat

    I’d like to see it going to road repair or paying down debt.

  3. Le Roi du Nord


    You are probably too young to remember that the big deficit was created by good old boy Tommy Thompson, not Doyle.  History always seems to  baffle you.  And you probably don’t remember when Lee Dreyfus gave away the surplus as a political stunt and caused all sorts of problems for his successor.

    I agree with Pat.

  4. Paul

    Lies and personal attacks.


    86 trolls

  5. Jason

    Take half to pay down debt, return the other half to the tax payers at a rate based on their tax burden.   If I pay in $3,000 in state income tax, and my neighbor pays in $1,000, I should expect to get three times more back than him.

  6. billphoto

    I, too, would like to see some of my money refunded.  I am still waiting for the Doyle tax increases to be repealed.  Of course, I am still waiting for Walker to downsize State government like he did in Milwaukee.  Of course, I am still waiting for the Minimum Markup law to become history.

    As a side comment,  the total refusal of some posters to give any credit for any accomplishment to those they oppose is really getting old.

  7. Nitro Cory

    $400 for a family of 4?  Why should anyone get paid for having children?

  8. Le Roi du Nord

    Hey little paul, where did I lie ?  Show some proof, little fella.

  9. Paul

    More lies and personal attacks.

    187 the troll

  10. Le Roi du Nord

    So you can’t prove anything.  No surprise that you have to resort to lies and personal attacks to make your flaccid point.

  11. Paul

    Go cry to the proprietor again if you don’t like it.

    187 trolls

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    You are lying again, little fella.

  13. Pat

    I forgot to mention in my post that I think it’s just splendid that we have a surplus.

  14. Kevin Scheunemann


    That’s easy…Tommy was a lukewarm conservative.

    Walker is a good conservative.

    When you dabble in liberalism, bad things happen.

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    TGT was the poster child for conservatives.  walker is a fascist.

    When you dabble in untruths, they catch up to you.

  16. billphoto


    a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

    fascists leaders – Benito Mussolini, Josef Stalin, Muammar Gaddafi, Fidel Castro and Scott Walker?

    “When you dabble in untruths, they catch up to you.”

  17. Paul

    Eight six the troll

  18. Kevin Scheunemann


    Take your eyes off of Daily Kos for 30 seconds a day and try and enjoy the huge amount of Walker prosperity!

    Or you can continue to be a miserable human being the full 24 hours every day….just trying to help you.

  19. Le Roi du Nord


    Thanks for making my point, especially about, “centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”.  You hit the walker nail right on the head.


    k:  I don’t follow the Daily Kos.  Never have.  You folks in the WOWcounties may be doing alright, but that walker prosperity you speak of hasn’t hit much of the rest of the state.  How did that 250000 jobs in 4 years work out?  Or all the $$ WEDC has wasted ?  You need to take a bigger view of life, not just who walks in the door at the DQ.

  20. billphoto

     The total refusal of some posters to give any credit for any accomplishment to those they oppose is really getting old.

  21. Paul

    Well said, Bill

    86 Trolls

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle

  23. Kevin Scheunemann


    Jobs?   We got a labor shortage in WOW counties, Fon Du Lac, and Sheboygan County!     If you do not have jobs in your part of state move to Plymouth, Sheboygan, Kewaskum, or West Bend.

    Unskilled workers who just show up are getting $12/hour to start at Walmart and several resaurants in Plymouth.

    You must be blind to the prosperity, or your liberal cabal in your neck of the woods must have destroyed it by you locally.

  24. Le Roi du Nord


    I didn’t say you WOW folks weren’t doing well.  What you missed is that out-state folks don’t share in your prosperity.  And moving from Florence or Ladysmith or Minong to Plymouth for a $12 job w/o benefits probably doesn’t make financial sense.  And others can’t move for a variety of reasons.  Once again you are taking a narrow view and only see what benefits you rather than the state as a whole.

    I know a lot of folks up here that are really upset about the Foxconn deal, as they don’t see how the taxpayer $$ squeezed out of northerm WI to bribe Foxconn will ever have a positive affect on them.  walker and the R’s will lose some skin in the next election even if Foxconn comes to fruition.  I don’t know where you get the “liberal cabal” idea.  Take a look at the past election demographics.  Look beyond your front door for a change.

  25. Kevin Scheunemann


    I can’t help it if you insist to not come to a prosperous area.

    Out of state folks can come here to prosper.

    Your liberalism is really reprehensible if you are complaining out of state folks cannot see it, or cannot share it.   Walker is only the govenor of WI.  IL and MN destroy their states with liberal politicians, that is not Walker’s fault.

  26. dad29

    I think Billphoto’s 6:48 post has it.  Whoever thinks Walker is a ‘real conservative’ is drinking some real powerful Kool-Ade.

  27. Le Roi du Nord


    I wasn’t talking about “out of state” folks.  Out-state is a term referring to folks from the hinterlands.

    And you better reconsider the comment about MN, they are eating our lunch.  WI is last in the nation in new business starups


  28. Kevin Scheunemann


    “Out-State” has both definitions. Be clear the next time. If you think you lack prosperity, there is plenty around here. Can’t help it if you choose not to grab it.

    I talk to many business owners in MN, they are jealous at great job Walker is doing and wish he was leasing MN. Your observation is the equivalent of a 1 AM bar patron.

  29. Le Roi du Nord


    I used it in the same intent as others on this site have done.  Next time read for comprehension and consider the context.  But for you often words only have the meaning you want them to have.  No surprise there.

    WI is last in the nation in new business start-ups.  MN is near the top.  Even you could look that up.  That isn’t bar talk.  And I talk to many business owners as a town and county elected official in northern WI.  Many are frustrated by the lack of attention paid to the less populated parts of the state by the current administration.  A notable concern is mortgaging the foreseeable future for Foxconn.  Another is the lack of highway funding that effects loggers, farmers, and the tourist industry.  You really need to get “out-state”.

  30. Kevin Scheunemann


    Business start-ups is another “Red Herring”.

    The job of government is to get out of way of business start-ups and Walker has been excellent on that compared to Doyle.   I was under attack under Doyle.  It sucked.    Walker has been a breath of fresh air to business owners.

    You have been nothing but a regulatory big government advocate, which is what really hinders start-ups.

  31. Le Roi du Nord


    Now you are getting your silly shoes on.  Start-ups are critical for increased employment long-term.  Innovative ones (like Epic) make a big impact, pay very well, and continue to grow.  The next Epic is out there, but located in MN.

    If you really think that any rational being would believe that a DQ operator in Kewaskum was “under attack” by Doyle you truly delusional.

    Actually I am not.  I am sick to death of the current administration taking away local decisions from local government.  Just last night I expressed my dislike for proposed SB 387 and SB 388 to my state senator.

  32. Kevin Scheunemann


    We got jobs coming out of our ears!

    You are worried that not enough of the over-whelming amount of unfilled jobs are not from “start-ups”?

    Doyle we had horrendous unemployment, now we have an acute labor shortage at all levels.   Doyle couldn’t get anything going except disasterous regulation and thumping.


  33. Jason

    >The next Epic is out there, but located in MN.

    Statistics show that 90% of those elusive startups will fail. Big whoop Average Joe.

  34. Paul

    Jason 14, Troll 0

  35. Le Roi du Nord


    So show us the stats.

    little paul:

    Sorry little buddy, but you are 0 for life….

  36. billphoto

    You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.  Put an different way.  Even favorable circumstances won’t force one to do something one doesn’t want to like actually admit a budget surplus is good.

  37. Paul

    Bill 21, Troll 0

  38. Le Roi du Nord


    I didn’t say a budget surplus was bad.  You are making that up.

    Le Roi 1, bill 0.

    What I did say is let’s be smart about how we deal with that surplus.


  39. Paul

    Stop lying about what Bill said, troll.

    187 the troll

  40. billphoto

    I will try correct the inference in my post for clarification purposes.  I don’t have Owen’s writing skills.

    Even favorable circumstances won’t force one to do something one doesn’t want to do like actually give any credit for any accomplishment like a budget because one has a visceral hatred of all those one has decided is their enemy.

    BTW-I don’t think ‘one’ defines a particular person

  41. dad29

    Ehhnnnhhhh….so Epic is a success.  (Don’t look now, but she loses a lot of employees because she runs a slave-ship.  High pay, but slave-ship.)

    And the Next Big Thing will be in MN, eh?

    So what?  Makes no difference who is Governor, nor controlling Legislature; there are 50 States and Wisconsin is not going to get every startup.

    Maybe you folks from Up Nort’ will move to Racine area for the jobs at Foxconn; supposedly they will pay more than $15/hour.  And yes, I understand NOT moving for $15/hour or less.

  42. Le Roi du Nord


    Great, thanks for the backup data.  Unlike many others here you proved your point.  But keep the language clean, little paul may be reading your comments.

    bill:  I don’t have a clue what you are trying to say.

    dad:  Well at least the folks at Epic don’t jump out windows like they do at Foxconn.  We will have to wait on those $15 jobs in Racine, just like we have been waiting for the 250000 for the last 3 years..

  43. Jason

    >Great, thanks for the backup data. Unlike many others here you proved your point.

    Figures that you failed to comprehend this… I didn’t make a point, I proved that your argument is worthless.

  44. Le Roi du Nord


    My argument, that start-ups create jobs, is just fine.   Those 10% that survive are the next Epic, Apple, or Microsoft.  Even ypor favorite welfare recipient Foxconn had to start somewhere.  Your ungracious acceptance of a compliment is not surprising.

  45. Paul

    Jason gets proven correct, once again.

  46. Jason

    >My argument, that start-ups create jobs, is just fine.   Those 10% that survive are the next Epic, Apple, or Microsoft.

    A swing and a miss.  Why don’t you prove correlation between startups and employment, prosperity or economic competitiveness?  And then factor in that 9/10 startups fail.

    While you’re at it, why don’t you look at if Wisconsin ranks #10 for both 6 year and 10 year survivorship rate?  So while we might not have the numbers of startups of other states, we are in the top 10 of states when looking at startups that last 6 years and 10 years.
    Your “argument” is a worthless data point. Keep on Trolling, Average Joe.

  47. Le Roi du Nord


    The Ewing Kaufman Foundation already did.  No need for me to re-invent the wheel.  The study was all over the news a couple months ago.  And those 10% that survive are what drives the economy.  Look forward, not backward.

  48. Jason

    Another swing and a miss…

    You missed my request….  I wonder why that is…

    Why don’t you prove correlation between startups and employment, prosperity or economic competitiveness? 

  49. Jason

    First.. Afghanistan… i thought we were discussing Wisconsin and the US… do you read what you Google or just pray that i dont?

    Second.. I’ll cherry pick this data point, and since your Kaufman report cherry picked data from many sources, it’s perfectly acceptable that I find well.

    >Companies less than one year old have created an average of 1.5 million jobs per year over the past three decades.

    1.5 million jobs, of which 90% will fail, is what? 225,000 jobs? Hardly a huge point in your favor when you figure 1.275 million people will be unemployed quickly. That also strengthens my point that at 6 years and 10 years WI is in the top 10 of states with successful small businesses.

  50. Le Roi du Nord


    Read the whole article, Afghanistan is just and example.

    And if WI is dead last in start-ups, it also means we are dead last in jobs created by those start-ups.  Last is still last.

    I’m glad you want to use the 6 and 10 year data, as those years were either under Doyle, or in just the early stages of the walker reign.  Thanks for bringing that up.

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