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1624, 12 Jan 17

Philly Mayor Upset at Retailers for Passing on Sweetener Tax

What a buffoon.

Kenney said he believes most customers understand the reason for the tax and he believes it doesn’t need to impact them as much as it has.

“They’re gouging their own customers.”

Among retailers, only Shop Rite has responded, saying they are passing the tax along because it greatly increases sweetened beverage prices and it wants customers to know.

Philadelphia passed a ludicrous sweetener tax on both natural and artificial sweeteners. Retailers passed along the tax to consumers just like they do with every tax. Many of them also listed the sweetener tax as a separate line item on receipts so that consumers could see why their frappe suddenly costs so much. Retailers certainly don’t want to take the blame for huge price increases when they aren’t even getting the money. The Mayor is upset that retailers are doing this.

What does he expect them to do? Does he expect retailers to just add the sweetener tax to where it calculates the sales tax? That would be misleading. Does he expect them to eat the cost? Why would they do that? Also, if the retailers ate the cost, wouldn’t that negate the health benefits of encouraging people to drink non-sweetened beverages by artificially inflating the price of sweetened ones?

It’s just hilarious to see liberals so shocked and dismayed when the consequences of their tax increases have the predictable effect.


1624, 12 January 2017


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Of course retailers have to pass it on!

    They cannot absorb this, and the myraid of other liberal insulting taxes and regulation, without the consumer paying for it.

    Ignorant liberal policy hurting poor again.

  2. Jason

    “They’re gouging their own customers.”


    This tool, like our own resident public servant – ru de nord, does not understand what “gouging” means.

  3. Le Roi du Nord

    “My dilly bar price has been same for 10 years!”

    “Of course retailers have to pass it on!”

    And during the past 10 years milk prices were at times ~40% lower than they are today, or 10 years ago (source USDA).   So someone was gouging, and someone was getting gouged.

    Jason, can you explain your definition??

  4. Kevin Scheunemann


    When it came to dilly bars, I decided to absorb the spike in milk prices.   I was looking out for my customers during that period.

    That is much different than a tyrannical greedy liberal dictator in Philidelphia raising your COGS through a draconian tax.   That I have to pass on.    I cannot absorb liberal tyranny.  Customers need to know about liberal tyranny so they can revolt.


  5. Le Roi du Nord

    So you won’t answer the question, eh.  No surprise there.  Coward.

  6. Kevin Scheunemann

    I answered it 3 times.

    Not my problem if you cannot read.


  7. Le Roi du Nord

    Just so we all get this straight, when the price of milk dropped 43% you passed on that decrease to your bottom line, right?  And how is that considered looking out for your customers?

  8. Kevin Scheunemann


    For the 4th time. Dilly price has been same for 10 years.

    When milk price almost doubled, I did not raise dilly price.

    Milk price to me has eased about 22% from peak, but is still 40% above the price I payed 10 years ago.

    I apologize if you cannot understand this for 4th time now. You should be tested for a possible learning disability. They may have medication for that now.

  9. penquin

    No snarkiness intended Mr. Scheunemann, but perhaps you’re the one who is having the difficulty with communication ’cause what you’re saying doesn’t make sense to me either. You claim that retailers have to pass on a price increase because they cannot absorb it…..yet you also claim to have gone 10 years without raising your prices despite MAJOR increases in product cost.

    I fail to see how both of your claims can be true.

  10. Kevin Scheunemann


    There is a difference between a COGS market input when it comes to pricing vs. a draconian consistent greedy, liberal tax.

    I was hping for a relief on COGS market input, which has happened to some extent.

    A tax is forever.

    One is a temporary condition, the other is permannet disability.


  11. Le Roi du Nord


    The issue that kevin has consistently dodged is if he lowered his prices when the price of milk dropped 40+%.  He has claimed w/out proof that his dilly bar prices have remained the same over the past 10 years which would mean he didn’t pass on that drop in milk price to his customers.  Or, his supplier of mix  maximized profits when the price dropped. Rather than protest about dairy policy he should have gone after the supplier for relief.

    And no, a tax isn’t forever.  Anyone living in WI the last 6+ years has heard republicans crow incessantly about tax cuts.  Who is lying?   And as an elected official he, of all people, should know that claim is false.




  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    Name one liberal tax, like this sweetner tax, that has ever been repealed by liberals?

    Dare you.


  13. Le Roi du Nord

    “A tax is forever”

    Your words, are you back tracking, or were you intentionally lying to begin with ?

    Define a “liberal tax”.  Be specific, and if you can, use facts as well.

  14. Kevin Scheunemann


    No backtracking.

    I’ve never seen a tax liberals ever dislike.

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    “The sign of intelligence is that your are constantly wondering.  Idiots are always dead sure about every thing they are doing in their life”.

    Jaggi Vasudev

  16. Kevin Scheunemann

    Colossians 1:23:

    if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. —-God


    So it is an issue that I don’t have faith in the constantly changing values of the world? Or that I don’t blow and twitch with the wind? Sounds like a cold and empty faith you offer….

  17. penquin

    “I’ve never seen a tax liberals ever dislike.”

    Do you talk with liberals outside of the blog-o-sphere? ’cause I know a lot of ’em who were downright pissed a special tax was enacted in order to pay for the stadium. And a couple of my lefty pals are constantly complaining about the taxes on tobacco.

    That aside, it sounds like you are saying business owners can not absorb/accept any cost increase if it is due to liberals being the cause of it, while you are willing to absorb/accept any cost increase if it is due to free market and/or conservative-enacted tax increases.

    Is that a fair summary of your opinion? If not, please clarify…thanks.

  18. Kevin Scheunemann

    The problem with your statement is:

    1.) The cost of the input tax is not voluntary.   Why would one want to absorb cost for greedy liberal politicians?   They have done nothing in terms of the input and production of the item.

    2.) The other is input cost from the market.   I can choose to absorb that input cost…that is at least a more worthy cause… supporting your local, hardworking farmer.   I did pass some of the increase along on other product over the years, like blizzards.   I did leave Dilly bar price alone.   That is my decision, because product mix and price interaction is very important.

    So, yes, cost of greedy liberal politicians must be passed along because rarely is a greedy, liberal, tax ever repealed.

    Greedy, wasteful, liberal politicians is one of the biggest threats this country faces.


  19. penquin

    As I said, you chose which costs will be absorbed and which will be passed on based on if you perceive “liberals” to be the cause or not. (BTW – Are aware that our milk-prices are centrally controlled and heavily subsidized? Ergo – the 40% cost increase is also caused by “liberals”…yet you’ve proven you are able to absorb it.)

    I agree that greedy, wasteful politicians are a huge threat to our country, but disagree with your implication that conservative politicians never behave as such.


  20. Kevin Scheunemann

    Agree that some “conservatives” need to be ripped for price supports and ag pork….when they do that, they really become liberals.

  21. penquin

    LOL! Haven’t heard the “no true Scotsman” fallacy for quite a while…didn’t know folks still played that card.

    Can you perhaps name one or two conservatives currently serving in the Federal and/or State gov’t….’cause according to your rules & definitions, wouldn’t they all considered liberals?

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