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1538, 15 Jul 16

Revolt in Turkey

Oh my

(CNN)Some Turkish military units have attempted an uprising that will be not allowed to succeed, the country’s prime minister said late Friday in a phone interview with Turkish broadcaster A Haber.

A report from the U.S. Embassy in Ankara said military-appearing jets had been flying low over the city and over Istanbul for about an hour.
Two bridges in Istanbul are closed in one direction by the military.
More fuel to the fire in the Middle East.

1538, 15 July 2016


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Natural result of Islam.

  2. dad29

    Not to worry. The White House is making wrist-bracelets to send over there. Unicorns and rainbows will break out all over.

  3. old baldy

    “Natural result of Islam”.

    Really? Could you elaborate and explain how you come to that conclusion? Thanks

  4. Kevin Scheunemann


    There are 3 kinds of Muslims:

    1.) the fundamental violent ones.

    2.) moderate ones who are afraid of violent ones.

    3.) courageous ones who are not afraid but live under constant threat.

    Turkey coup is about eliminating those in #3 category.

  5. old baldy


    Having read numerous statements by you denouncing any and all muslims it is amazing that you came up with explanation. But things ideology is always in a state of flux in kevWorld

  6. Kevin Scheunemann


    When it comes to Muslims in category #3…You have to wonder why they would help to spread a religion of pure violence, where those in category #2 either are afraid to speak against the violence, or celebrate the violence.

    If you are in #3 as a Muslim, what is your goal?

    That’s what I would like to know. You can’t take violence out of the religion because Islam teaches violence and had a disgusting blood struggle for Islamic power from the get go in decades after their great false prophet was poisoned by one of his many wives he subjugated. That violent, making the Italian mob look like camp fire girls, blood struggle continues to this day.

    So, yes, I denounce Muslims in category #3 for supporting a violent religion, but I at least celebrate their courage to go against all the violent teaching of their religion and their courage to endure great threat from their fellow Muslims.

    In the end though, spreading Islam makes the violence problem worse, not better. Without Jesus, the courage of those in category #3 will suffer same eternal fate as the Muslims in category #1, or #2.

    You should read some Jay Smith. He is an exciting, bold Christian that debates Muslim clerics in public, openly, all over Europe. He mops the floor with all of them, clearly guided by the Holy Spirit and his faith in Jesus, pointing out the falsehood of their religion. Recently, he was introduced by the most radical Muslim cleric in Britian at a debate between Islam and Christianity, the Cleric said, I’d like to introduce my friend Jay Smith. He will definitly be the first Christian I kill when jihad comes to England.

    Don’t kid yourself Baldy…Muslims want to kill unbelievers…even in non-muslim western countries.

  7. old baldy


    I don’t kid myself, and I don’t take advice from ideological or religious zealots.

  8. Kevin Scheunemann


    So you prefer to take advice from those that blow and twitch in the wind, without any moral compass?

    That is what produces more victims because that position tolerates the violence. Just ask France. Or BLM…since their positions will produce more black on black crime.

  9. Northern Pike

    Why stop with Muslims?

    What are the three categories of Catholics?

    What are the three categories of African-Americans?

    What are the three categories of gays and lesbians?

    What are the three categories Jews?

    What are the three categories of Norwegians?

    What are the three categories of people born in Delaware?

    This could be fun.

  10. Owen

    Northern Pike:

    Same warning goes for you. I will ban you for harassing Kevin. [troll strikes again. The administrator has not threatened to ban anyone]

  11. Richard Seman

    I love how Kevin S. has to take shots at BLM. This group is rooted in nonviolence but according to Kevin S and the mayor (different thread) they are responsible for the Dallas shootings and now increased black on black violence. What alternative reality produces such twisted #%$!&*@ thinking. If conservatism has to rely on such underhanded tactics to survive then it should just die. What a disgrace.

  12. old baldy


    I prefer to take advice from folks that have a more rational, long-term, and broad view of the world rather than a knee-jerk reaction to any situation.

  13. Kevin Scheunemann


    Name one violent catholic?

    Then tell me any Catholic that condones overt vuolence like Muslims?

  14. Kevin Scheunemann

    BLM is rooted in non-violence?


    BLM should take on black on black crime which is hundreds of times more a problem for black victims than the 1-2 a year unjustified police shooting.

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    Name one violent catholic?

    The IRA and their offshoots in Ireland for several thousand.

    Urban II
    Innocent II and III (Don’t you love the irony here?)
    Celestine III
    Honorium III
    Gregory IX
    Count Emicho

  16. Kevin Scheunemann


    Are they Catholic?

    Vatican denounces the violence and says its against Roman Catholicism.

    That’s the difference.

  17. dad29

    Kev, it should come as no surprise that Catholics act against the tenets of their religion, as you have discerned. That’s the result of Original Sin.

    And don’t let anyone flim-flam you about Catholic teaching on violence. There is such a thing as Just War, and in microcosm, that Just War theory applies to self-defense and defense of one’s family (thus, one’s city, State, and nation.)

    But: the Just War Theory makes it exceedingly difficult to justify “first strike’–advocated by the Usual Suspects in the NeoCon bunch which dominated the GWB Administration and which still exist in the US Senate (among other places.) It is not impossible to justify ‘first strike,’ but–just as with personal defense–it is difficult.

  18. Le Roi du Nord


    Yes, they are/were Catholic. Even you could have verified that.

    Could you explain your second sentence?


  19. Kevin Scheunemann

    Dad 29,

    I agree with you on “just war” part. The trolling liberals here are going to say they are terrorists.


    Roman Catholicism does not endorse, celebrate, or advocate terrorist violence. Any Catholic that does that is not living their faith.

    That is what I mean.

  20. old baldy


    The IRA and other Irish factions on both sides of the fence aren’t terrorists? Hilarious. But not if you live in Northern Ireland, or are a British soldier.

  21. Major Booris

    “(Good Thing) does not endorse, celebrate, or advocate (Bad Thing). Any (Good Thing) that does that is not (Good Thing).”

    Classic Kevin rhetoric. Any Good Guy who does a Bad Thing, even if they thoroughly justify it within the context of the Good Guys’ ideology, is not really a Good Guy, and most likely never were.

    I’ve kept a pretty low profile around here since the site’s reboot, but I’ll be the first to admit that when I do post it’s usually to call out a post of Kevin’s that crosses the line from ‘rigid, insular ideology’ to ‘willful, pig-headed ignorance’.

    If that’s worth a ban now, I’ll be glad to take it, assuming that’s not our friendly neighborhood troll posting at 12:33.

  22. old baldy


    Great way to put it.

    kev has said numerous times that you can be a christian right up to the time when you aren’t, and then be redeemed for bad behavior right on the spot. Salvation is always in a state of flux.

  23. Northern Pike

    OK, Owen, I’ll repost without snark.

    Imagine if someone writes “There are 3 kinds of Jews” or “There are 3 kinds of Catholics” it would be rightly rejected as stereotyping at best and bigotry at worst.

  24. Owen

    Sorry I missed the troll earlier. As I said before, these repetitive comment wars over religion are exceedingly tiresome. I’m not going to ban anyone for them, but don’t expect me to read them.

  25. Kevin Scheunemann


    I didn’t say I agree with that particular issue as a “just war” necessarily. Just agreeing the concept of “just war” exists. WW2 was a “just war”.

    Wiping out ISIS would be a “just war”. Especially since they have been at war with us for some time and we ignore it while their soldiers kill gay people and the French en masse on the battlefield.

  26. Kevin Scheunemann


    My comnent is valid because Islam is a religion, culture and political system all rolled into one.

    Do any Muslims fall outside the 3 categories I mentioned?

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    “My comnent is valid because Islam is a religion, culture and political system all rolled into one”.

    So do you include Catholics as well? They have their own country.

  28. Richard Seman

    Owen is right… How tiresome. Everyone should just conform to his and Kevin’s closed minded adaptation of Christianity. Oh and well everyone’s at it put on your tea party hats and scream the blacks and Muslims did it.

  29. Mark Maley

    While liberal by nature , I agree with Christopher Hitchens on Islam .
    Hitchens , an anti- theist has issues with all

    At any time in history , one religion could be
    Pointed out as the Worst at that time

    In the 1930′ S , you could point out the Catholic church’s accommodations to Fascism as something the world has never recovered from

    In the case of Islam, it is the final religion .
    The goal is a government of absolute theism and a war with non believers

    The trick is how to defeat our enemies
    Without taking the rights away from our citizens – any of them

  30. Le Roi du Nord


    Did you catch the speech by Giuliani last night at the convention? It would seem he disagrees with you on the Muslim issue and was very specific about it. And based on the applause most of the delegated agreed with him.

  31. Kevin Scheunemann


    Thr most closed minded people I know are liberal moral relativists.

    They are responsible for making simple common sense statements controversial .

    1.) “Men who think they are women should not be allowed in women bathrooms.”

    2.) “USA was formed by Christians under Christian freedom.”

    3.) “Islamic radicals are responsible for killing people in terrorist attacks, not trucks, guns, knives, or box cutters.”

    The lack of determining right or wrong on simple things is a dictatorial yoke of liberalism that is paralyzing the country.

  32. Richard Seman

    Kevin S.
    Save your breath or should I say key strokes. Your double standards and hypocrisies have your moral compass pointing in the direction dictated by whatever idiot you choose to follow at any given time. At least the mayor had the balls to take a stand. He has since retreated and no longer backs his letter (cowardice) but at least he was willing to put it out there.

  33. Kevin Scheunemann

    What do you mean he has retreated and no longer backs his letter?

    Not to my knowledge.

  34. Le Roi du Nord

    “USA was formed by Christians under Christian freedom.”

    It says no such thing in the Constitution. You claim to be a student of Madison yet continue on with the miss-statements regarding freedom of religion.

  35. Richard Seman

    Kevin S,
    As with most inflicted with bandwagon jumping give it a little while to let rational thought set in and realize that haste may actually negatively effect the next campaign and you have retreat. I am still waiting for your official declaration.

  36. Kevin Scheunemann


    First you tell me to be quiet, then you wait patiently for a declaration from me?

    I take it your claim the mayor backed off his statement was a complete lie at this point.

    I’m up for re-election in April 2017. Anyone that wants to run against me, have at it.

    I will run on a platform of supporting our police officers and against societal elements that demoralize police officers across the nation and want criminal evil to run free.

    If I am defeated for that…so be it.

    I’d rather be beaten for standing up for what is right, than win standing up for evil, which is usually the liberal thing.

  37. Richard Seman

    In your haste to continue your bandwagon jump you failed to realize the spelling of the 11:46am Richard “SEMEN” wasn’t me. Thanks for proving my point. Don’t worry… No self respecting conservative and certainly not any liberal would want to follow in your footsteps. Your reign as village idiot is safe.

  38. old baldy


    “than win standing up for evil, which is usually the liberal thing”.

    Proof? Or just more unsubstantiated hyperbole?

  39. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’ll acknowledge I did not catch the troll on that. So I’ll retract my first question implying you told me to be quiet. My mistake.

    However, you still did not provide proof the mayor backed off his statement as you claimed.

    As far as I know, he is standing by his statement. I support his statement as it was printed.


    Exhibit #1:

  40. old baldy


    Yup, Faux News and O’reilly are sure impartial and without bias. You can do better, right?

  41. Richard Seman

    Kevin S,
    My point is if you believe so strongly in the position the mayor has taken why not issue your own official statement. Since the mayor is no longer defending his position in ANY forum I conclude he has backed off. I understand, the mayor said some things that were indefensible, easily proven as misleading rhetoric and flat out lies. What a disgrace.

  42. Kevin Scheunemann


    That is not backing off the statement. Sometimes I simply stop responding on forums/debates if I lose interest in the value of commentary.

    It especially happens when commentary has been reduced to crude name calling.

    Let me ask you something. Do you consider BLM shouting “Pigs in a blanket, fry ’em like bacon” to be a disgrace? See footage at link I posted.


    I rest my case since you have no counter to BLM demanding dead cops.

  43. old baldy


    Good thing you aren’t a trial lawyer. Resting your case on biased “proof” will get you disbarred.

  44. Richard Seman

    Kevin S,
    I wrote “Since the mayor is no longer defending his position in ANY forum I conclude he has backed off”. You let the egomania get the best of you.
    As for the use of crude name calling… Most just follow the example of the standard bearer. Who on this blog happens to be Owen. For example, in a recent thread Owen valleys the Republican Presidential nominee an “Idiot” (highlighted in red).
    As for BLM… I would think you would be the first person to stand up and defend their right to protest. You know, that free speech thing you so adamantly defend. I was my understanding you protected that right even if the language was offensive.
    I guess just more double standards and hypocrisies.
    What a disgrace.

  45. Richard Seman

    Correction, CALLS (not valleys) the Republican….

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