I’m not sure who was nuttier… the people in the room or the people outside.
“We are still in, regardless of the president formally beginning the process of withdrawing us from the Paris Climate Agreement,” Barnes said Thursday at the inaugural meeting of the state’s first dedicated climate change initiative.
“We have to be a leader,” Barnes said. “The moment calls for us to be a leader in the absence of federal leadership.”
Created earlier this year by an executive order, the Climate Change Task Force is headed by Barnes and made up of appointees from the agriculture, utility and tourism industries as well as higher education and indigenous nations.
Members are charged with advising Gov. Tony Evers on strategies for slowing global climate change and adapting to the local impacts.
[…]
The group sang modified Christmas carols in the hall outside the conference room — “Jingle bells, jet fuel smells, no F-35s, no way!” — while members of the Extinction Rebellion, in white face paint and red robes, held silent poses.
It is remarkable to me that one can read the entire story and twice it mentions that the members are made up of people from different areas of government, business, and special interest groups, but never does it say who is actually on the task force.
Hilarious. The super cult members upset because the less radical cult members are not drinking the leftist Marxist kool-aide fast enough.
Our education system is broken if anyone thinks this is a real problem.
Indigenous nations? Is that the new PC name for Indian reservations?
I guess I have to update my PC dictionary again.
Shouldn’t be too hard for the commission; just copy/paste Doyle’s utterly ridiculous “plan” from 15-ish years ago. It’ll get the same response from people who actually have to work, make money, feed chilluns, and heat/cool homes.
*Yawn*
After they copy/paste it, Barnes can run down to Chicago and shop, driven by the Wisconsin Capitol Police.
The list of members is contained in the sublink. You will not be surprised by the slant of the majority of them.
“To that end, we are continually working to mitigate our drain on these precious resources, so all of us can feel better about the beer we drink.”
The guy from WE was put on that bunch as a punishment.
And how come izzit that the A.G. of the Forest County Indians lives in Oconomowoc?
Now you like residency requirements, Dad29?
Always did, Jiffy.
So where’s the beef in this situation?
You want to see crazy? Take a look at 45’s latest insanity:
“I’ve studied it better than anybody I know,” the president asserted in a bizarre segment from a weekend rally in West Palm Beach, Florida, close to his winter retreat at Mar-a-Lago where he is spending the holidays.
“I never understood wind. You know, I know windmills very much. They’re noisy. They kill the birds. You want to see a bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday. You’ll see more birds than you’ve ever seen in your life.
He also claims they cause cancer, and are only made in Germany and China.
So what, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy?
Well dud, the quests was asked, “who was nuttier “, so I gave you the answer. Read anything trump has said about CC/GW and you will see who is nuttier by a mile.
So what, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy??
dud: You are repeating yourself again.
Actually LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy, NO ONE asked “who is crazier” on this thread.
Are you receiving messages from the other world again?
True, it was “who was nuttier”. Good catch, however insignificant it was…
And to put a point on the hypocrisy of trump:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/24/climate/trump-bird-deaths.html
See, Le Roi, when Dad29 introduced his question about where their attorney lives, no one had asked that question, either, and he still hasn’t explained why it’s relevant here. It’s just his Knowing Eyebrow Raise.
jjf:
Correct, why should the place of residence of their attorney matter to the Tribe. Maybe the guy doesn’t want to live in rural Crandon.
Interesting the climate change cult supporters want to focus on anything but the climate change cult….
I did.
Who cares?
I did.
So what?
k:
There is no cult, only sound science.
dud:
Rational people see the insanity in those statements. Obviously you don’t. As they say, “Birds of a feather flock together”.
Nord,
Then why don’t the cult members give up their air travel, automobile, Tv’s, cell phones, and other oil based, electric gadgets to lesson their carbon footprint to zero?
It is a sick cult because the followers are unwilling to do what is needed themselves. they only want to make others follow thier sick climate demands.
This meeting in Doyle administration probably wasted more resources in terms of footprint then the ten largest WI companies did all year being productive…
No, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy. Adults are able to discern (look it up) the difference between comments that are meaningful and those which are flipped off in haste.
Is there an adult nearby to help you out?
k:
You know as well as I do that there are no cults involved, so your “question” is nonsense. Just like the gibberish on Doyle, dishonest claims with no foundation in reality.
dud::
Since you and k are so child like in you accepting fantasy it is my duty to be the adult in the room
I hope you all had a great Yule eve. I did.
As usual, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy, you are wrong.
There IS a Climate Cult which has invented its own science to justify demands of massive monetary contributions to its tin-god, the Perfect Temperature.
At least religions only demand monetary offerings from their own adherents; in contrast, the Cult of Perfect Temperature demands large donations from Western citizens, primarily those in the USA.
The Climate Cult has never, nor will ever, define the “perfect” temperature, thus ensuring its cashflow forever–or until the Normies rise up and schmeiss the Cult leaders.
Don’t be a Cult leader.
dud:
You are soooooo wroooong on sooooo many levels. But the great thing about science is that even if you (read “dud”) don’t believe it, it’s still true.
And until you figure out the difference between climate and weather you will always be on the wrong side of the argument, as is the case today.
Have a great New Year.
So I’m wrong about your cult? I”m wrong about the extortion?
Who said anything about weather? Still getting transmissions from the Mother Planet?
The New Year will be great, thanks!! Trump will annihilate any (D) opponent and it’s likely that the House will return to (R) hands.
Happy New Year to you, too!!
Yup.
Yup.
You.
Nope.
In your dreams.
Thanks.
…….proving that members of The Cult are incapable of seeing outside their little box.
And the Perfect Temperature is NOT “weather.”
My (D) pals have given up on 2020, by the way. They live in Reality-Land
Nord is local cult bishop for global warming.
He loves the poisonous Marxist kool-aide.
Wrong on all counts, k. But you are free to believe whatever you want, as we are still a free country. That being in spite of the efforts of folks like you and trump.
Nord,
How much taxation and how much regulation is too much to achieve your desired cult control of the weather?
Since there is no cult, nor any plans to control the weather, there is no need to for taxation or regulation. Until you educate yourself on GW/CC all you are doing is making a fool of yourself.
I guess, in your mind, Le Roi,unless we agree with you, we’re just fools.
Wow, you are such a bigoted person.
Nord,
So you are against all taxation and regulation that is alleged to solve the pretend climate crisis?
If so, we agree, a do nothing approach is best.
mar:
You don’t have to agree with me, just stay current with the science. I’ll let you make your own call on how foolish you are.
k:
No pretend crisis, it’s real. And no, I don’t agree with you at all, and probably never will regarding CC/GW.
So there is a crisis, but you believe in no taxes or regulation to solve the alleged issue?
Some would say you are not taking the climate “crisis” seriously. You would irritate the true believers with that attitude.
k:
You are all twisted up with your nonsensical claims. Let me know when you are able to have a serious discussion on the topic. Some (probably all) would say you are just being ridiculous.
How do you fix climate change without taxes regulation, then?
Right now, sitting here in Arizona, we are colder than most of Wisconsin, so in the eyes of Le Roi and his ilk, that would be signs of climate change.
Those who believe in weather believe the reason is the weather patterns including the jet stream.
k:
You have been talking “ controlling the weather “ throughout this thread. Now you are talking climate. Make up your mind.
mar:
A highly educated guy like yourself would know the difference between weather and climate. Guess I was wrong.
Nord,
You avoid the question, dishonestly.
How do you fix climate change without taxes or regulation?
Why can’t you be honest with first question: how much taxation and regulation is too much in the climate change cult? (Or…Just how much Marxist control is required over my life to fix this alleged issue with the climate?)
Let’s stop with the dishonesty and get real and honest about what the cult wants to do in their religious zealotry, cosmology, and passionate conviction that weather can be controlled or influenced.
k:
Education, something I have been trying to do with you for several years. Smart folks already had good ideas, policies, and practices that our most DC recent administration has rolled back. Ditto for the last R governor in WI.
Big public utilities are getting out of coal generation all over the country. There are lots of ways to save money and have a cleaner environment out there, you just have to open your mind to change.
And none of those positive activities requires a cult, a religious institution, nor cosmology. And no one is claiming to want or be able to control the weather.
Nord,
So you are advocating massive regulation and “taxes” on the consumers of electricity?
Why can’t you just be honest? You want to hurt the poor by making electricity very unaffordable.
Nord,
Al Gore says it is about weather control.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/amateur-climatologist-al-gores-hurricane-florence-joseph-curl
Gee, Le Roi, Australia has been in a long term heat wave with massive wild fires for the past several years.
Must be the US’s fault, right?
And Le Roi, I’ll be more convinced about supposed climate change if climate change leaders didnt suck so much fossil fuels to fuel their extreme lifestyles.
Geeez, you two are beyond hope.
“So you are advocating massive regulation and “taxes” on the consumers of electricity?” Where did I say that, old mr. truthful christian ?
k:
“Al Gore says it is about weather control”.
Not in what you attached. That is twice in the last couple days you attached something to prove your point, and it didn’t say what you claim it did, so I ask again; “can you read” ? Or are you so hidebound by ideology that the truth has no meaning, and whatever you conjure up is your new reality?
Nord,
“…(utilities)getting out of coal generation..” at the heavy swing over the head with a baseball bat by liberal cultists!
Clean coal is cheap, efficient, and no pollution, but liberals oppose it anyway!
So are you supporting doing nothing, or are you with the damaging cultists like AOC?
Are you willing to take a clear position on anything?
The lefties don’t like coal, gas, oil, nuclear and water power. They do like windmills and solar, both of which do very little to help provide power, especially in big cities.
Maybe lefties are Amish in disguise.
“at the heavy swing over the head with a baseball bat by liberal cultists!”.
Ask WE why they are getting out of coal. I dare you.
“Clean coal” Now there is an oxymoron for you.
I have always had a clear position on the truth, something you avoid at every opportunity.
For your reading enjoyment;
https://madison.com/news/local/environment/bob-lindmeier-wkow-tv-s-longtime-chief-meterologist-talks-straight/article_aa5d9482-d2a1-5785-a1de-036d3ebe6611.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
Nort confused: “… reading pleasure.”
Well, the first lie in the article occurs in the first sentence of the second paragraph, so I suppose it’s pleasurable to those, like you, who believe in lies.
“He first made a faith-based case for acting on climate change at his church..”
But it’s not a religion.
Nord,
So your regulatory assault is exposed against coal.
Above you said you were not in favor of regulation over climate change…why do you lie and distort to shield the consequences of your radical cult agenda?
Just be honest. You want to kill blue collar jobs and make energy unaffordable for the poor.
Nothing worse than a dishonest cultist.
Le Roi says: mar:
A highly educated guy like yourself would know the difference between weather and climate. Guess I was wrong.
I guess the Chicago Sun Times didnt get your message.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/12/28/21039824/warm-christmas-chicago-climate-change-great-lakes
WE is ‘getting out of coal’ b/c natgas is much cheaper–at this time. And of course, they also must appease the Climate Cultists who run EPA and DoE–not to mention the minor poobahs in Madistan.
When natgas’ costs ramp up, and they will, you’ll start seeing coal barges again.
mar:
Guessed you missed this: “Scientists are loath to attribute any single weather front to the worldwide pattern of climate change”.
And this: “Figures from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration back up what numerous experts from across the Midwest say: Such weather extremes will become only more frequent if those temperatures keep going up”.
Your inability to read is your problem, not the Sun Times.
Apparently Le Roi, you must have missed the title of the article.
Nord,
You ignored your awful hypocrisy.
You claimed you were against regulation in your climate cultism above, but gleefully love to regulate coal out of existence.
Will you address your dishonesty?
highly educated mar:
So the title of an article encompasses all of the information? What happened to reading all of the material? Even Cliff Notes are better than just scanning a title. And you have the nerve to call others “uneducated”.
If you were truly interested in the science rather than the partisanship, you would look up subjects like; “long-term climate trends”, “rate of change in world-wide temperatures”, “how warming seas alter long-term weather patterns’, or sea level rise”. But you would rather remain uneducated.
k:
WE isn’t removing coal from their generation mix due to regulation. Were you able to read you would know that, as I have provided several articles describing their decision in the past few months.
Nord,
Oh please….
You liberals have been warring on coal for years. You bully enough, people in private sector just want to avoid the bullies like yourself. (Secretly, they despise you and your diseased ideology.)
It’s disgusting.
k:
WE disagrees with you, and were you inclined to learning new things you could look it up. But since you are the smartest person on our 6000 year old earth you surely know better than to believe the actual owners/operators of the facilities.
Nord,
As if people in private sector don’t take notice of liberal thugs on coal…how quaint.
So you are now in favor of natural gas fracking?
Welcome aboard. I like that!
k:
You are making stuff up again. You need to learn some new tricks.
Nord,
You were gleeful about WE Energies switching to Natural Gas.
Does this mean you now embrace fracking?
Actually, Le Roi, I am educated about the subject, but you choose to believe a bunch of scientists who have skin in the game and you follow the group as opposed to coming to an independent opinion. You just want to be an Al Gore wannabe without the money and prestige.
k:
Show where I was “gleeful”. Talking with you takes the glee out of just about everything.
highly educated mar:
If you are well versed on the subject then you sure need to exhibit such knowledge.
Who should I believe, you? k? trump? Surely you jest.
Nord,
You were all excited to tell me WE energies is getting away from coal with Natural Gas.
So you support Natural Gas fracking then?
If so, awesome!
k:
You are assuming things you don’t know to be true. Why must you resort to presumption rather than fact?
Nord,
I asked if you are in favor of fracking?
Why must you be so evasive all the time?
Be proud of your cult….or quit the climate cult if your are ashamed of what it means.
Kevin, are you in favor of poisoning water?
No k, you claimed “You were all excited to tell me WE energies is getting away from coal with Natural Gas”.
While my statement is true, I don’t get excited by things like that. If the Packers make the Super Bowl I’ll be excited. If Bucky plucks the Ducks tomorrow I’ll be excited. But you don’t get me excited.
Why must you be so dishonest all the time? Pathology? Habit? Intent? Ignorance?
And as always, no cults involved. Just good, sound science.
Well, Le Roi, since you never answer my questions to you, I think you are the uneducated one.
I’m glad you had fun on your trip to kill Bambi. I’m sure your Prius did well with the trip, especially transporting the hunting party and the remains of Bambi home. And the cabin or hotel were well equipped with solar panels or powered by wind mills. And you didnt keep the tree stand warm.
And jjf, I think that I can speak for all conservatives when I say we want the dirtiest air, dirtiest water, kill the young and the old, throw zs much trash out F250, supercharged truck all so the billionaires keep getting richer.
Don’t ridicule the people who actually try to resolve the hard questions, then, Mar. Why is it unreasonable to examine pollution or other trashing of the commons, and to come up with laws to prevent spoiling of our common resources?
highly educated mar:
What question would that be, oh smart one?
Sure I had fun. Maintained the camp cribbage crown, got back safely, and Bambi is still walking around. And the Geo Metro performed like a champ, getting 55+ MPG. That 1L 3 cylinder motor is an engineering marvel. Tree stand isn’t heated, but the geo-thermal system in camp works flawlessly.
Nord,
Are you in favor of fracking, or not?
Done properly, with appropriate environmental protection, I have no objection to fracking.
That is code for: I’ll make that fuel source expensive if I don’t like what they are doing as well.
Do you do anything that does not war on the poor?
When does your climate cult ever support cheap energy for the poor? Or you just want to keep on taxing the poor with your regulations?
k:
Could you send us your decoder ring that allows you to say, “That is code for: I’ll make that fuel source expensive if I don’t like what they are doing as well”.
We all need to get up to speed on the meanings of words according to the New Book of kevin, where the English language is so fluid that any word or words can mean whatever you want, and can be changed to mean something else whenever you want to suit your ideological needs of the moment. Or you could just admit you lied again. It a binary choice.
And for the umpteenth time; I don’t believe in cults, especially ones like yours that rely on lies to survive.
k:
Should you learn to read, take a look at this:
https://www.unenvironment.org/news-and-stories/story/air-pollution-hurts-poorest-most
Nord,
Decoder ring for slow liberals:
More climate regulation= more tax on the poor.
How is fracking and clean coal “air polution”?
Define, using facts and commonly accepted definitions, what “clean coal” means to you. And read up on fracking, obviously you don’t understand all the ramifications of the process.
Nord,
I was surprised you were cheering Natural Gas since WE engeies get some of that from fracking….
So you are as not as pro Natural Gas as you sound.