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0838, 10 Oct 19

Wisconsin’s Gun Laws Are Sufficient

So says Representative Janel Brandjten… and she’s right.

Wisconsin has clear and significant measures to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals, abusers, and mentally unfit people. I have high confidence that if the laws we currently have are properly enforced, the safety, security, and freedom of all Wisconsinites will be protected. Attorney General Kaul and Governor Evers have a responsibility to explain the current laws and stop misleading their constituents; Wisconsin deserves better.

 

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0838, 10 October 2019

17 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    Liberals never want to enforce the law. Or just wrist slap criminal behavior.

  2. Le Roi du Nord

    “Liberals never want to enforce the law”.

    But when the do you whine like there is no tomorrow.  Hypocrite!

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    When liberals want to turn hardworking citizens, like farmers, into criminals, I stand opposed!

    You like turning hardworking citizens into criminals evidently.

  4. Le Roi du Nord

    How so??  And any proof, or merely more dishonesty from the master?

  5. Mike

    Leroy, 2 big things they are pushing are universal background checks and red flag laws.

    Background checks are already the law for all firearm sales except private, in state, face to face sales. “internet sales” have to be shipped to a local FFL who does the background check.
    The problem with universal background check proposals is that they talk about gun purchases (change of OWNERSHIP) but write the bills to apply to change of POSSESSION. this criminalizes common activities as loaning your friend a gun at the range, loaning a gun to a new hunter, and temporarily keeping a friend or relative’s guns safe (My son is in the military over six years now and I am still keeping some of his guns for him). Previous bills proposed in Wisconsin would have made a criminal of a spouse if their SO went out of town more than 2 weeks.

    Red flag laws run afoul of the 2nd amendment, and due process as understood by established precedents regarding the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments. We already have a whole statute (Chapter 51) on dealing with mental issues that includes emergency detention and a court hearing to determine competency. We also have laws on restraining orders and harassment injunctions that include court hearings with a judge that has the ability to remove firearms from a dangerous person. Red flag laws that take away a persons rights on the barest suspicion are not about safety, they are about confiscation and control.

  6. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You just got done going on and on about the regulation on farmers on other thread, turning hardworking Americans into criminals through regulation.

    That is only time liberals tend to support law enforcement, when it makes the innocent law abiding citzen, guilty through gotcha rule making.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Here is what you said:  “Liberals never want to enforce the law”.  Yet you immediately fall back on a situation you refused to understand, and obviously have taken the time to understand.  Sad, just sad.

    Do you even think before you type?  Obviously not.

    But how about the “conservatives” not enforcing laws, you didn’t mention those situations at all.  Hypocrite.

    Mike:

    I don’t disagree with you.  It is a tough subject to deal with.

     

  8. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Why do liberal presidential candidates keep demanding non violent offenders be released?

    …that would include those on gun charges.

  9. Le Roi du Nord

    I don’t think anybody has proposed, let alone enacted, any measure to release folks with gun charges.  And “non-violent” and “gun charges” are different.  But then you always struggle with common definitions.

  10. jjf

    Be brave, Kevin.  Tell us your theories on why there are more people of color in jail.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    jjf,

    Becauzse the black family has falling apart thanks to liberal economic policy.

    75% of black kids had two parent families in 1960.

    Less than 25% today..

    Liberal welfare policy, incentivizing abentee fathers has destroyed the black family.

    Will you apologize for your liberal racist advocacy?

    And are you saying a rapist and murderer should be let out of prison, like AOC advocates, simply because of favored skin color.

  12. jjf

    You’ve identified policies that affected people on the basis of their skin color?  How did they create a policy that affect one more than the other?  And you think it was only liberals who did this?

  13. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Did you read the article you posted?  It sure doesn’t enhance your argument one whit.

    And you call me “clueless”.  Such hubris. Sad.

     

  14. dad29

    Liberal welfare policy, incentivizing abentee fathers has destroyed the black family.

    That’s true; there are zillions of studies proving it, and none other than Daniel P Moynihan (Democrat!!) agreed wholeheartedly.

    But not to fret, jiffy!!  Whites and Hispanics are going the same direction with the distinction being that more white single mothers work (and leave their kids to be raised by third parties.)

    The excrement is hitting the overhead rotating device across the board.

  15. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You asked for someone who promotes policies letting criminals out. AOC wants to let them all out.

    Instead of a, “AOC is nuts an extreme”, you tell me I’m clueless for pointing out a liberal matching your inquiry.

  16. Le Roi du Nord

    No k, she didn’t say she wanted “to let them all out?   Did you even read the article?  Can you read?

    And no, I didn’t call you clueless.  You brought that word into the discussion (see above).

    Why must you be so dishonest?  Nature? Nurture? Pathology? Arrogance?

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