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2223, 02 Oct 19

Brother of Murdered Man Forgives Murderer

What an amazing act of Christian compassion and forgiveness.

In an astonishing act of compassion, Jean’s 18-year-old brother, Brandt, asked the judge if he could also hug Guyger, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Brandt and a sobbing Guyger then both stood up, met in front of the bench and embraced for a long period of time. The judge and the majority of the courtroom wiped away tears as they hugged.

‘If you truly are sorry, I forgive you. I know if you go to God and ask him he will forgive you,’ Brandt said to Guyger in the courtroom.

‘I love you just like anyone else. I’m not going to say I hope you rot and die just like my brother did. I want the best for you. I don’t even want you to go to jail.’


2223, 02 October 2019


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    What a stark contrast to lack of forgiveness, and no chance for redemption in today’s political CORRECTNESS lexicon.


  2. jjf

    Uh oh.


  3. Jason

    >“We believe that our criminal justice system needs more compassion from judges and prosecutors, but here compassion crossed the line into coercion,” comment Gaylor and Barker. “And there can be few relationships more coercive than a sentencing judge in a criminal trial and a citizen accused and convicted of a crime.”


    How embarrassing these two idiots are to the country, and you most of all Jif.

  4. jjf

    Jason, do you think judges should be handing down Christian religious judgment along with the civil sentence?

  5. Kevin Scheunemann


    Christian religious judgement is how you appropriately discern good and evil.

    In Preamble to WI Constitution, we establish the WI Constitution in “gratefulness to Almighty God”.

    How can you have proper judgement as a jurist in WI without Christian standards? Many other state Constitutions have similar Preambles.

    You beef, because of judges are finally taking their Constitutional duties seriously in gratitude to Almighty God?

  6. Jason

    >Jason, do you think judges should be handing down Christian religious judgment along with the civil sentence?


    And that’s why you’re on the top of the list bub.  This judge did this after sentencing, after the trial.  But don’t let the facts get in the way of your Social Justice circle jerk.

    >Courtroom video shows that following the sentencing and victim impact statement, Kemp left the courtroom and came back with her personal bible. She then gifted her bible to Guyger, instructed her on how to read the bible and which passages to pay attention to. Kemp said:

    Do you have such little to live for that you need this feel-good accomplish-nothing activity?  Maybe you should actually get off your ass and get out there and do things to help others.

  7. jjf

    Looks like religious proselytizing to me.

    Imagine a Muslim judge doing something like that, how would Fox News and conservative blogs howl?

  8. Jason

    >Imagine a Muslim judge doing something like that, how would Fox News and conservative blogs howl?


    Would you?  Would FFRF?  I know you wouldn’t, and I doubt they would.  But facts are facts…  you said “do you think judges should be handing down Christian religious judgment along with the civil sentence?”


    And the video shows the judge did not.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann


    Muslim religious judgement is as corrupt as godless judgement of the FFRF.

  10. jjf

    Of course I’d howl just as much.

    You’re free to believe what you wish.  First Amendment and all.  Judges and governments and public schools shouldn’t be telling you which religion to follow, and how.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann



    When are you going to stand against the godless liberal religions of FFRF, evolution, climate change, and the baby killing cults of planned parenthood?

    First Amendment is freedom to choose your religion, not the conviction to be free from religion or religious speech.

    Religion determines good and evil. It is not a sword to strike down judges using values to discern good and evil.

    Even the godless have values…even if they are sick and twisted at times.

    We are a Christian nation at founding, and christianity permeates our culture even if the godless have made headway dragging former Christians down with them.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann

    “It” refers to “First Amendment is not a sword to strike down judges using values to discern good and evil”

  13. jjf

    You think I’m required to have a religion, by the Constitution?

    Kevin, you’re swinging alone in the wind.  I don’t see your conservative brethren saying “preach it, brother.”  You even lost Dad29 when you told him the Pope wasn’t Christian.  And poor Owen, his blog is overwhelmed with responses to your bizarre comments.

  14. Kevin Scheunemann


    I did not say you are required, but the godless have a religion, whether they acknowledge it or not.

    I’m just tired of the attitude your set of values are paramount because you claim to be above “religion” somehow.

    Again, show ms the false witness damage Nord has done against me. Point to where I said that about the Pope. Nord lying about what I said does not make it true.

  15. Kevin Scheunemann


    So that is a,”no”, you will not stand against the godless, favored religions of the left?

    Your latent hostility and bias toward Christians is showing.

  16. jjf

    Whew, that’s a relief.  I was worried that the Government was going to put me in jail or shoot me because I didn’t have a religion.

    The man above, the man below.  Gotta know who’s on top, gotta know who to show respect, gotta know who to spit on.  It’s what the authoritarians and racists eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

    As for the Pope, let me guess…  you said something like “if the Pope doesn’t believe in Christ just the way I do, then he’s not a Christian.”

  17. Kevin Scheunemann


    I find authoritarians (especially those on the left) and racists LACK any Christianity in any kind in practice.

    If you want to eliminate those things, you should distribute Christianity.

    Don’t try to quote what I said about the Pope if you don’t have the reference.  I did not see an apology for your awful false witness on it.


  18. Le Roi du Nord


    Do you know what an oxymoron is?

    Here are a couple examples: “godless liberal religions”, and “the godless have a religion”, and “the godless, favored religions”.

    And the proof is here, from my Webster’s:

    “Religion- the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.”

    And you wonder why sensible folks don’t take you seriously…..

  19. Kevin Scheunemann


    Climate Change religion—believes man has superhuman power tocontrol weather through carbon emissions.

    Evolution religion—Darwinist that have superhuman “leaping” capabilities to piece together broken puzzle pieces that do not fit.

    Godless—Superhuman power to deny the divinity of God, thus electing themselves god.

    Baby killing cult—just evil and, in reality, need supernatural demonic possession to be that evil.

    Shall I go on?

  20. Le Roi du Nord

    Go ahead if you must, you are really stinking up the place.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    You are just upset because your speech is treated less by having the “religion” scarlet label placed upon it.

    Welcome to “equal protection clause” as liberals pervert it.

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    By definition you are proven wrong. Why do you insist on continuing a discussion you can’t win? Or is there just an over abundance on nonsense in your head tonight and you need to release it? If so, carry on.

  23. Kevin Scheunemann

    Oh Nord,

    No room for diversity of opinion? Why is it a problem to have favorite leftist religions treated as hostile as Christianity in public square?

    Fact remains neither of you will butch if judge spouts about the leftist religions I pointed out above. So relax, nothing to see here…just Cheistian love… certainly better than liberal baby killing advocacy which you both are very silent about.

  24. Le Roi du Nord


    I’m all for diversity of opinion. But not the diversity of definition that you espouse. Note the root word of definition.

    The rest of your comments are just misspelled word salad .

  25. Kevin Scheunemann


    Against diversity of definition?

    Have you been watching any impeachment demanding liberal last 3 years?

    Liberalism thrives on that! You bitch because a conservative practices the same “diversity”? How very intolerant of you.

  26. Le Roi du Nord


    You are making no sense whatsoever.  But it appears that your support for trump is based on a shared lack of truthiness and blaming everyone else for your problems.    The new world of alternative facts suits you just fine.

  27. Kevin Scheunemann


    Oh please.

    Don’t lecture me about definitions in this SJW liberal environment.   Leftism perverts every definition known to mankind.

    If you lefties will treat anything that smells of “religious speech” like a a 17 year old girl at the home of Bill Clinton and Epstein, the least I can do is make your liberal speech (which is largely religion anyway) smell of the treatment you give to everyone else.


  28. Le Roi du Nord

    I’m not lecturing you on any liberal definitions, but questioning your knowledge and capabilities with the English language. If definitions aren’t definite, how can we converse in a meaningful manner?  Or could you provide us all with the dictionary you use when talking in kevinspeak?

  29. Kevin Scheunemann


    I have a deeper, more diverse, more nuanced viewpoint toinsure liberal religions enjoy the same “equal protection” hostility liberals lay out for Christian speech.   After all…why are your values, morals, and convictions superior simply because you ae in denial as to the religion you practice?

  30. Le Roi du Nord


    I’m not in denial, as I don’t practice any of those “religions”. You are lying again.

    And being ignorant of the definition of words doesn’t make you more nuanced, it makes you more ignorant. And you prove it with every post.

  31. Kevin Scheunemann


    Yes, yes, anything to justify your hostility toward anything Christian.

    Try being nice.

  32. jjf

    Don’t worry about us, Kevin.  It doesn’t take any more energy to not be Christian than it does to not believe in Zeus.

    Don’t make me spend time finding what you said before about the Pope being Christian or not.  Just tell me again.  Something something blood of the Lamb something forgiveness exactly the way Kevin wants him to say it?

  33. Le Roi du Nord

    “Try being nice”.

    And this request comes from a guy (at least we assume he is of that gender, at least for today) that has called any and all that disagree with him such nice names as; murderer, socialist, pagan, communist, fascist, idiot, elitist, hostile, pervert, bitch, baby killer, racist, authoritarian, corrupt, evil, yada, yada, yada.

    Pot, meet kettle.

  34. jjf

    Le Roi, you forgot his favorite: “awful.”  It’s what nice people say!

  35. Le Roi du Nord


    Yes, that is his all-time favorite.  “Awful.  Just awful” is classic k-speak.

  36. Kevin Scheunemann


    When someone is victimized by awful actions, isn’t it a kindness to the victim to say the evil action is awful?

    When liberals advocate baby killing and I say “awful. Just awful” my kindness and sympathy to baby being exterminated shouldn’t be praised?

    How detestable are you in ignoring evil and victims of evil?

  37. Le Roi du Nord


    Looks like we can add detestable to the list. Some folks just doesn’t get it.

  38. Kevin Scheunemann


    Let’s test.

    Are you against unborn baby killings?

    If not, that is a detestable position.

  39. Le Roi du Nord

    No answers until you are nice.  Or are you maintaining you double standard?

  40. Kevin Scheunemann

    When one has little basic concept of good and bad, hard to say what would be “nice” in your book.

    Why are you afraid to answer the easy question?

  41. Le Roi du Nord

    I’m pretty sure I have a good concept of what is good and/or bad.  What gives you the right or privilege to make that determination of me?  Surely not any knowledge of me, as we have never met.  Surely not by experience.  Or do you have supernatural powers ?

    So you can’t be nice?  No surprise.

  42. Kevin Scheunemann


    If you have such a sure foundation of good and bad, why do you dodge these easy moral questions?

    Is baby killing, via abortion bad?

  43. Le Roi du Nord

    I’m not dodging anything. I just won’t play your silly and childish game.

  44. Kevin Scheunemann


    Opposing baby murder is “childish” and “silly”?

    My difficulty is: you claim a sense of right and wrong, but yet cannot make any reasonable, civil, opposition to basic evil.

    That is a huge problem in taking your discernment seriously.

  45. jjf

    Imagine what it would be like talking with someone who thinks the world – wait, no, the universe, probably – is 6,000 years old.

  46. Le Roi du Nord


    Your difficulty is far deeper than what you state. Reality always trips you up.

  47. Kevin Scheunemann


    So are you declaring Christian beliefs are “evil”, but then, in same breath, give a pass on baby murder, for instance?

    Something is seriously wrong with your value system if that is the case.

  48. jjf

    Have you ever heard the expression “not even wrong“?

  49. Kevin Scheunemann


    Sure, but it does not apply here.

    Instead of asnswering the simple moral question I ask you, you shift it to focus on my stance on creationism.

  50. jjf

    Who first brought up baby killing in this comment thread?

  51. Kevin Scheunemann

    I did, because subject is murder, forgiveness, and repentance.

    If you cannot recognize simple murderous acts as evil… how do you recognize forgiveness and repentance?

    I was trying to see if you 2 can get to first stage: recognize things that are easily evil, so we can reasonably discuss quality of forgiveness and repentance in this story.

    It seems all 3 are foreign concepts.

    Maybe I need to make things more simple.

    Is evil a bad thing?

  52. jjf

    OK, let’s start with murder and genocide and abortion in the Bible.

  53. Kevin Scheunemann


    Love discussing bible. Where do you want to start.

    Sounds like you will read it as a result, that’s awesome.

  54. jjf

    Murder and genocide and abortion, go right ahead, explain away!  I’m all ears.

  55. Kevin Scheunemann

    Anything in particular?

    Romans 12:9 is always a good one. Love must be sincere. Cling to what is good, abhor what is evil.

    Unbelievers like to cling to evil and reject what is good many times, like abortion, genocide, and murder.

    Glad you brought that up.

  56. jjf

    No, I meant like God killing entire peoples, and tribes killing tribes, and what they did in the OT days when you thought your wife was unfaithful.  Or slaves.  There’s slaves in the Bible, right?

  57. Kevin Scheunemann


    Any specific passage you would like to misconstrue?

    God has punishment for breaking the Law and doing evil. That should be no surprise in passages I am sure you are going to reference.

    Did you even read the bible in a matter to attempt to understand it, or did you just read a Satan filled critique of lies of a godless liberal web site?

  58. jjf

    I read the Bible, cover to cover, a long time ago.  You can’t remember any murder, genocide, or abortion?

  59. Kevin Scheunemann


    I am familiar with the Bible, which part did you want to talk about?   I brought up Romans 12:9 which guides what sincere love really means…you did not like that.

    I can’t help it if you do not like the answer when it comes to absolute truth.


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