Not Enough Scientists?

Sooo… riddle me this

Skepticism about climate change-related research led the Legislature’s budget committee last week to water down Democratic Gov. Tony Evers’ plan to restore a Department of Natural Resources science bureau, according to a top Republican senator.

The Republican majority on the Legislature’s budget committee agreed to restore two of the 18 researchers cut in 2015 by then-Gov. Scott Walker and his GOP allies in the state Assembly and Senate.

Evers administration officials said the two positions won’t be enough to research new ways to reduce damage done to lakes, streams and drinking water by climate change, invasive species and contaminated sewage.

Climate change is being studied by thousands and thousands of people all over the world. Why does Wisconsin need even more people to study it? Is one more DNR scientist going to figure out a better way to prevent lakeshore erosion (or whatever) that nobody else in the world could figure out? Let’s save the money and piggyback on other people’s work.

32 Responses to Not Enough Scientists?

  1. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    These are the highest paid positions in the liberal climate change religion in WI.

    We should spare no expense when it comes to funding these favored false liberal religions.   The establishment clause means nothing when it comes to climate change zealotry.

  2. jjf says:

    Shorter™ Owen:  Let’s rely on Illinois scientists to figure out how climate change will affect Wisconsin.

  3. Le Roi du Nord says:

    How much time do you have….?  CC/GW is already having adverse impacts on many parts of Wisconsin’s economy:  increased T will cause changes to the forestry industry statewide.  Northern species will be gone, spruce and balsam are already struggling.  WI is a dairy state because it is a great place for growing forage crops.  Alfalfa has been harder to grow because of the changes to our winters.  Tourism suffers, be it lack of snow, warming water alters fish species(walleye, brook trout, etc), habitat changes affect native species(grouse, woodcock). Larger and more frequent flood events due to prolonged rain events costs all levels of government in road and infrastructure repair.

    Some folks are just going to be deniers, and all the information and research won’t change that.  But folks in the forest products industry are concerned.  Ditto ag and tourism.

    So keep you head stuck in the sand, folks.

    And FYI, there is no “liberal climate change religion” in WI.  That is just a rationalization made up to make k feel important.  I prefer reality.  But he might come around when he realizes that the cost of his custard mix will go up, and it will cost more to freeze his dilly bars.

     

     

     

     

  4. jjf says:

    They have custard at Dairy Queen?

  5. Mar says:

    Le Roi, can you name 1 radical prediction of climate change that has come true? I’ve heard so many predictions of global cooling, global warming and now climate change and I don’t recall many, if any dire predictions come true.
    Should be good stewards of the land? Of course. But that’s not the aim of these liberal climate change agitators. They want us to completely change our life style.
    Meanwhile they concentrate on the US and Europe but leave the rest of the world off the hook.
    But I will be convinced of climate change when these rich climate change believing thugs stop using their private jets, living in mansions that suck energy and driving fast gas guzzling cars.

  6. Le Roi du Nord says:

    More frequent and more severe weather patterns.  And see above; northern forest species are taking a hit from warmer climate, southern bugs and diseases.

  7. Mar says:

    Sorry, Le Roi, but we always have had severe weather. Warmer climate? It’s called cyclical. I’m in Arizona and we have had one one of the coldest Winters and spring in record.
    Bugs going north? They have adapted.

  8. guinness says:

    I saw a 100 year history of the water level in Lake Michigan. At intervals from 1-2 decades, it was almost a perfect sin wave. Remember in Door County when you had to walk out 200 yards from you pier to get to the waters edge roughly 20 years ago? Guess what. It’s back to the piers again.

  9. Le Roi du Nord says:

    You guys are talking weather, I’m referring to long-term trends.  BIG difference.

    Been on or very near the waters of Green Bay most of my life.  Seen the all-time recorded low and high.  And the high mark will falls soon.  Tip: don’t buy waterfront property on a Great Lake.

  10. Le Roi du Nord says:

    That should be “fall”.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    there Nord is…demanding full funding of his religion.

    Precious.

  12. Le Roi du Nord says:

    k:

    Nope, you are making stuff up again.  Does lying make you feel like someone important, or is that just imprinted in your genes?

  13. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Nord,

    Are you advocating for funding of these religious positions?

    Or are you backtracking again?

  14. Le Roi du Nord says:

    No, since there is no religion involved.  I am advocating for funding sound science.  Public funding for religion is your position.

    You didn’t answer the question posed: does lying make you feel like someone important, or is that just imprinted in your genes?

  15. Jason says:

    >More frequent and more severe weather patterns. And see above; northern forest species are taking a hit from warmer climate, southern bugs and diseases.

    Do you have original sources and dates for the predictions you gave? Oh and I expected something more “scientific” from you, since you ALWAYS demand it from others. “More frequent and more severe” is hardly measurable or scientific. You’re getting slow as you age.

  16. Le Roi du Nord says:

    Read the article, do your own research as well..  If you are ok with k and his unfounded opinions you should be ecstatic with all the info I have provided you.  But then again, you are a little biased..

  17. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Nord,

    Isn’t predicting the future always some sort of cult?

    Liberal doomsday cults have been around for decades.

    What makes you think your doomsday cult is any better than the late 1960s liberal cult that predicted mass US starvation by 1980s?

    Why is your cult more undeserving of funding?

    Just because you are more zealous?

  18. Jason says:

    >Read the article, do your own research as well..

    You didn’t answer the question posed: does lying make you feel like someone important, or is that just imprinted in your genes?

     

     

     

  19. Le Roi du Nord says:

    Nope, neither apply.  But if you are too lazy or ill prepared to do your own research then nothing I provide will make you any smarter.

  20. Le Roi du Nord says:

    k:

    You claim to be able to predict the future all the time with your claims that you know that we both won’t end up in the same condition.  Your brand of cultism allows you to go through life without having to think, but rather rely on what your cult leaders tell you.  I’m more of an independent thinker than that.  To each their own.  But you can’t live with that, can you?

  21. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    I am not predicting where you will ultimately end up, heaven or hell.

    You could come to faith at anytime.

    Saying you are eternally lost without Jesus is fact, not prediction.

    You are dabbling in doomsday fortune telling

  22. Le Roi du Nord says:

    Sure you have k, lots of times.  Scared to admit it?  Or is your memory just that feeble?

  23. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Quote me 1.

    Accurate, in context.

    You will do anything to justify funding of your climate cult.

  24. Mar says:

    Le Roi, why do these specific positions need to be filled.
    How professors in the UW system are studying this issue? We have a lot of people studying climate change on the public dole. Why do they need more?
    Granted, I probably won’t agree with their conclusions, but how many liberal scientists do we need studying climate change?

  25. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Typical.

    Can’t produce one example of your awful accusations.

    I’ll accept your apology at anytime Nord.

  26. Le Roi du Nord says:

    Mar:

    I don’t know how many UW folks are doing research on those specific issues.  If they are doing compatible work then I agree, no need to duplicate.  But the past administration stripped CC/GW science from state agencies across the board, so UW probably doesn’t .  And who says they are “liberal”, other than you and k?  Peer reviewed research isn’t liberal or conservative.

    k:

    You have predicted that I will end up in hell numerous times.  If you think I am going to keep track of every one of your ridiculous claims and rants you are even more delusional than we all think you are.  So if you don’t think I am going to end up in hell, say so.  Betcha won’t…..

  27. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Nord,

    I have never said you are going to hell (I challenge you to point to where I said that).

    I have said that if you live apart from the grace of Christ, one has a certain destination in eternity.

    I have always been hopeful for you to come to the faith, and avoid the truth of the eternal consequence of living apart from grace of Christ.

    I always have hope for even the most hardened anti-Christians, so that means I still have hope for you.

    So I would appreciate if you would reflect the truth on my position on this matter. thanks.

  28. Le Roi du Nord says:

    k:

    Yes, you have.  Live with it.  Embrace it.  But don’t be so dishonest with yourself.  It really serves no purpose .

  29. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    Nord,

    Easy.  Quote where I said that (vs. imagined it).

  30. Le Roi du Nord says:

    If you think I am going to keep track of every one of your ridiculous claims and rants you are even more delusional than we all think you are.  So if you don’t think I am going to end up in hell, say so.  Betcha won’t…..

  31. Kevin Scheunemann says:

    If you come to faith in Jesus…. that hope could happen at anytime.

    Unlike your doom prediction on climate change, I can’t predict the future.

    No apology for getting my quote on this incorrect?

  32. Le Roi du Nord says:

    k:

    I apologize when I am wrong or made a mistake.  So no apology forthcoming.  And as predicted, you won’t say it…..

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