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2151, 15 Aug 16

Law

The Clinton Defense

As it will be known.

A Navy sailor facing the possibility of years in prison for taking a handful of classified photos inside a nuclear submarine is making a bid for leniency by citing the decision not to prosecute Hillary Clinton over classified information authorities say was found in her private email account.

Petty Officer First Class Kristian Saucier, 29, is set to be sentenced Friday on a single felony charge of retaining national defense information without permission. In May, Saucier pleaded guilty in federal court in Bridgeport, Conn., admitting that while working on the U.S.S. Alexandria in 2009 he took and kept six photos showing parts of the sub’s propulsion system he knew to be classified.

The defense and prosecutors agree that sentencing guidelines in the case call for a prison term of 63 to 78 months, but defense attorney Derrick Hogan cited the treatment of Clinton as he argued in a filing last week that Saucier should get probation instead.

“Democratic Presidential Candidate and former Secretary of State Hilary [sic] Clinton…has come under scrutiny for engaging in acts similar to Mr. Saucier,” Hogan wrote. He noted that FBI Director James Comey said 110 emails in 52 email chains in Clinton’s account contained information deemed classified at the time, including eight chains with “top secret” information and 36 with “secret” information.

“In our case, Mr. Saucier possessed six (6) photographs classified as ‘confidential/restricted,’ far less than Clinton’s 110 emails,” Hogan wrote. “It will be unjust and unfair for Mr. Saucier to receive any sentence other than probation for a crime those more powerful than him will likely avoid.”

It won’t work because Saucier isn’t a powerful politician. Such is the state of justice in America.

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2151, 15 August 2016

Law

23 Comments

  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    So right.

    This is liberalism at its core.

  2. Le Roi du Nord

    And in which dictionary did you find this definition of “liberalism” ?  Or is this another case of your extraordinary ability to make up a definition of any word to meet your immediate needs?

    You really do need to take some history and political science classes. Even some HS classes may be enlightening to you.

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Excusing criminal behavior for well connected is a a very liberal concept.

  4. Le Roi du Nord

    No, it isn’t.  But if you say it is so, it must be true, even if it won’t be tomorrow.

  5. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Well… who tends to rationalize crime and embrace soft on crime policies?

    Liberals.

    It’s obvious…except to liberals.

  6. Le Roi du Nord

    Kevin:

    I am a “tough on crime” guy, always have been, and have expressed that opinion numerous times.  Yet you continue to call me a “liberal”.  Which is it?

    I see two ways you can rationalize your position; 1) you don’t know me, or others that you call “liberals”, so you feel you can attack and smear with out fear of reprisal by us “liberals,  and 2) you use the term “liberal” to describe any thing, person, or policy that you don’t like or take the time to understand.  You use the term the same way others would use a racial or ethnic slur.

    You live on a small island, protected by your inability to deal with others of different philosophies, religions, or world views.  Rising sea levels are going to cause you some problems.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Great. You are tough on crime.

    Will you call for Hillary to be jailed then for here criminal behavior on classified documents?

  8. Le Roi du Nord

    If she committed a crime, is brought to trial and convicted, and that crime is punishable by incarceration, then yes I would support that.  But so far she hasn’t been charged with a crime, convicted, or sentenced.   If you know otherwise, please share the details, court docket information, etc.   Thanks

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    So that is a “no”.

    You share the Obama administration crime position on Hillary.

    You are soft on crime, despite your talk.

    Is this soldier above, a criminal? Why? Or Why not?

    He did far less than Hillary.

  10. Le Roi du Nord

    Kevin:

    Have you no moral compass at all?   This is still the United States Of America, and people are innocent until proven guilty.  HC has not been charged or convicted, so under our laws she is innocent.  If you support a political dictatorship where there is no justice system and folks can be thrown in jail for being on the wrong side of the party in power, why don’t you man-up and say so.  Quit hiding behind all the religious and freedom nonsense and let us all know where you stand.  Your outright disregard for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is disgusting !

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You failed to answer the question.

    Is this soldier a criminal?

    Why? or Why not?

    Show me you have a moral compass.

     

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    A conditional Yes, since they were charged, convicted, and now sentenced.

    But, to answer the actual  question you asked: “Is this soldier a criminal?”, I would have to answer, No, since the article is about “A Navy sailor”, not a soldier.  If you had ever been in the military you would be able to recognize the difference.  Comprehension eludes you when you rush to judgement.

    Now, answer my question: do you still believe in jailing folks without due process?

     

  13. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    “Conditional yes”?   Where is your moral compass?

    This “sailor” did LESS than what Hillary Clinton did with classified information and is looking at jail time!   Difference?

    When a sailor goes into a war zone and can take enemy fire, there is little distinction between a “sailor” and a “soldier” in my book.   In fact, the distinction could be insulting to those who serve in the Navy.   In fact, I would argue being on the sea can have a lot more peril than being on land.

    Where did  I say people should be jailed without due process?

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    “This “sailor” did LESS than what Hillary Clinton did with classified information and is looking at jail time!   Difference?”

    We don’t know that the sailor did less.  To say otherwise would be a false statement. The difference is that the sailor (glad to see you figured that out) was charged and convicted.  HC has not been charged and brought to trial, let alone convicted.  That is the difference.  Read for comprehension, not just knee-jerk reactions.

    Again, you insult all of us that served with your blatant and willful ignorance.

    See your comments above.

     

  15. Kevin Scheunemann

    Hillary clearly did as much as the sailor….way more!

    She should be charged with hundreds of felonies.

    Just because she avoids charges because of liberal elitism does not mean she did not criminally handle classified info.

    Just read FBI statement.

    This poor sailor gets hung out to dry for 6 pictures?

    If this is liberal justice..,it is disgusting and repulsive.

  16. Le Roi du Nord

    No, Kevin, she didn’t.  Again you use the word “clearly” without having a clue to the meaning.  You obviously don’t like HC, we all get that.  But she hasn’t been charged, brought to trial, or convicted.  So you are clearly wrong.  That was the proper use of the word.

    As Rand Paul would say, “Ignorance is not confined to uneducated people”.  But then you say that the UW system failed you.

  17. Kevin Scheunemann

    UW is a failure because it puts liberal perverseness above education.

  18. Le Roi du Nord

    Another false statement by Kevin:  “UW is a failure”.

     

  19. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    You left off the “why” it is a failure.

    If UW could throw off it’s liberal perverseness, which takes precedence over education, UW might be a respectable institution of higher learning.

  20. Le Roi du Nord

    Kevin:

    That isn’t a “why”, it is your opinion.   The UW systems considered one of the top public systems in the country, despite the attacks by the current administration and folks like yourself.  You claim to have earned a degree from UW-M, you claim to be a successful small business operator, where is the failure in that ?

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    The fact you say it is one of the top “public systems” is your opinion also.

    So what is big deal?   I have an opinion, you have an opinion.

     

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    Not my opinion, but actual statistics .

    Niche has UW in the top 3% of all 4 year institutions in the country (38th of 1168).

    US News and World report has UW in the top 10% of public schools 11 of 119). What is interesting is that of those tewn ranked above UW, most are from California, that hotbed of conservative education.  And UW had the lowest in-state tuition.

  23. Le Roi du Nord

    Sorry, that should be “ten”, not “tewn”.

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