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2352, 14 Jul 21

General Refused to Act Even When He Allegedly Thought Trump Would Launch a Coup

Yawn.

The country’s top military officer was so convinced that then-President Donald Trump would attempt a coup after his election loss to Joe Biden that he and other senior generals made plans to stop him, according to a new book.

 

General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and his deputies reportedly pledged to resign en masse if they were given an order by Trump that was illegal or unconstitutional.

If it’s true, then Milley is truly a coward for not making his knowledge public when it could have made a difference. In any case, if Milley really did believe that, he was wrong. This is just another political general looking to cash in on Trump hate.

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2352, 14 July 2021

18 Comments

  1. Mar

    From the story:”The dramatic quote excerpted by CNN was revealed in a new book authored by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig titled I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year.”
    CNN and Washington Post?
    Right, those are reliable sources.
    Only fools and idiots believe those 2 communist rags.

  2. Mike

    Just the above quote shows the generals apparently did have a plan to deal with a coup. I’m sure similar discussions and planning occurs during every change in administrations also.

  3. Le Roi du Nord

    Milley is a military general, not a “political” general. Were he and/or other generals acted in a preemptive fashion you all would have been whining about a coup.

  4. Owen

    It would have been a coup if a military junta took control of the president. But what he should have done is go public with his concerns if he truly thought the Republic was at stake. Of course he didn’t because if Trump won, he would still be his boss. He was hedging his bets. And ALL generals at this level are political animals. It comes with the job.

  5. Merlin

    Modern GFOs for all practical purposes function as political appointees. It’s why incoming Democrat Administrations gut the majority of currently serving General and Flag staff in favor of new officers more receptive to a new quid pro quo. This is yet another area where Republicans have failed to recognize the longevity of an effective Democrat tactic to gain and hold institutional control even when not occupying the White House. As with the judicial system and public education they’re always behind the curve.

  6. Mar

    Actually Le Roi, Milley and the Joint Chiefs are political generals. They are appointed by a politician, confirmed by Congress, gives advice to politicians and are not in the chain of command when it comes to time of war or other decisions.

  7. Le Roi du Nord

    Actually mar, they aren’t. They may have been appointed by a President, but have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, not a President, be they R or D. I have sworn that same oath, as have you if you were telling the truth.

  8. Jason

    > but have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution, not a President, be they R or D.

    And they did… so why are you still blabbing like an idiot? You just can’t help it, can you Leroy?

  9. Merlin

    Milley was Trump’s choice for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, against the advice offered by Mattis and others (for whatever that advice may have been worth). I don’t recall Trump ever openly feuding with Milley, but Milley’s ultimate loyalty should be to the U.S. Constitution no matter who his political patrons might be.

    Trump’s claims of massive vote fraud lacked immediate proof, and Trump’s sacking of Mark Esper and his staff right after the election had to have really put the GFOs on edge. Trump’s claims couldn’t be proven fast enough to alter our constitutional process and the transition to Biden occurred. That part is history.

    Milley’s coup concerns proved fruitless. What remains to be seen is how Milley and the GFOs react if and when election theft is proven. Will they still cling to the Constitution or just settle for the 2020 de facto coup?

  10. Mar

    Again, you are wrong, Le Roi. The Joints Chief do not command anybody but their staffs. They control no military units. They have no power out in the field or on bases. The only people under them are the people that work in the office with them.
    They can swear any kind of oath, but it’s useless.
    But nice try.

  11. Le Roi du Nord

    “to alter our constitutional process “

    That takes an amendment, or were you suggesting a coup?

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    mar:

    The JCs are still in the military, and many will be back in the chain of command after their term in the JCoS is up. Nothing relieves them of their oath. You may consider the oath you took as “useless”. I don’t.

  13. Mar

    And again, Le Roi, that is not what you said in your first post here, so you are wrong…again.
    And if push came to shove, Milley and what army?

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    mar:

    That IS what I said. Read it again.

  15. Mar

    Milley is a political general and does not command any troops other than his staff.
    I guess you just don’t understand simple facts.

  16. Le Roi du Nord

    The simple fact mar, is that Gen. Milley and all the JC’s, are still in the military, and still bound by their oath. If you, or others don’t like Milley, blame the guy that appointed him.

  17. Mar

    Le Roi, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
    You said Milley was not a political general and you are just flat out wrong.
    Maybe you should read up on the Joint Chiefs and then you can make an informed comment.

  18. Jason

    Leroy also said this….

    > Were he and/or other generals acted in a preemptive fashion you all would have been whining about a coup.

    Which shows his education level.

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