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1340, 09 Sep 20

Biden Leads Trump in Wisconsin Poll


Democrat Joe Biden leads Republican President Donald Trump 47% to 43% in a new Wisconsin poll by the Marquette Law School.

Biden had led by 5 points among likely voters when Marquette last polled in early August, so the new poll shows little change in the race even though this was Marquette’s first survey since the two party conventions and since the turmoil and protests in Kenosha,

The same poll right before the election in 2016:

MILWAUKEE – A new Marquette Law School Poll finds 46 percent of Wisconsin likely voters supporting Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and 40 percent supporting Republican Donald Trump in the race for president.

I’d feel pretty good about that poll if I were the Trump campaign (one might remember that Trump won Wisconsin by 0.7% with 3.6% going to the Libertarian candidate).


1340, 09 September 2020


  1. MjM

    Today’s Babblism…..

    “What makes his wild claims and hopes…he now hopes we don’t notice what he said.–or won’t remember. And when he does follow through…or doesn’t do…when follow through, the exact opposite.” – Babblin’ Joe Biden.

    p.s. ignore polls.

  2. Mar

    The only caveat to the polls is if there a significant number of flatlanders move from the land FIB into Wisconsin to escape a pretty oppressive Illinois government.
    Here in Arizona, we are being swarmed by Californians fleeing their communist state and if they bring their liberal politics, Arizona might flip.

  3. MHMaley

    “you won’t believe how deadly it is “ will go on the
    Presidents political gravestone .

    He failed to do his job deliberately .

    For Trump , the Buck stops …….There !

    You can make all the excuses you want for him , and
    you will .

    But he’s toast and today sealed his fate .

  4. Mar

    Nice try MHMaley, but we don’t need people panicking.
    On this site, jjf and Le Roi acted like Chicken Little and it was really kind of funny how they were panicking.
    But do really want the President to put everyone into a panic state?

  5. Jason

    >He failed to do his job deliberately .

    Such bullshit that you want to rewrite history already.   I remember when this started, Trump said he wanted to deny travelers from China.   Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, AOC, You, Leroy, Foust all cried and called him Racist.   You and your team own this Maley… not Trump.

  6. Kevin Scheunemann


    Try some truth:

    Pelosi, Biden, and awful squad called Trump’s China travel ban on Jan 31 “xenophobia” and railed againsy it!

    The disgusting Democrats brutally attacked the protective steps he did take! This is already backfiring on Democrats, you are just too ideologically blind to see it. Keep pushing this and Biden “xenophobia”comment and his support of evil Chinese communists will be a campaign commercial.

    Biden will only be able to drool into his cup in resoonse.

  7. Pat

    I love how people who belittled Fauci are now embracing him.

  8. jjf

    Not sure what you’re driving at, Mar.  Now that you have a recording of Trump, do you think he was being a “chicken little” back then, too?

    As Woodward points out in his book, the point of Trump’s lying is to make you question the very nature of truth, to toss up your hands and say “I don’t know what to believe.”

  9. Kevin Scheunemann


    Who belittled Fauci, besides libs now hacked off he is defending Trump from disgusting leftist hit job?

  10. Randall Flagg

    Trump never instituted a China travel ban.

  11. Jason

    Joe Biden on Twitter, Feb 1, 2020 in response to a proposed ban of travel with China.

    “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”


    Bernie Sanders in a Town Hall on March 9th.
    >”If you had to, would you close down the borders?” Baier asked, referring to efforts to stop the spread of coronavirus.

    >”No,” Sanders replied flatly.
    >He went on to condemn xenophobia and suggest that scientists would need to outline the appropriate approach.

    Pelosi on Twitter, Jan 31st.

    >The Trump Admin’s expansion of its un-American travel ban is a threat to our security, our values and the rule of law. Barring more than 350 million people from predominantly African countries from traveling to the US, this rule is discrimination disguised as policy.


    All this while in the middle of a failed impeachment attempt.   Randall, just think what the leading Democrats would have written had Trump actually implemented a “China Travel Ban”.

  12. Randall Flagg


    Thanks for admitting Trump never instituted a China travel ban.

  13. Jason

    >Thanks for admitting Trump never instituted a China travel ban.

    Sure, because it’s the truth.  I don’t lie.  Thanks for admitting that high ranking Democrats opposed what Trump tried to do, and are now blaming him for not doing enough.

  14. Pat

    You want the truth? You can’t handle the TRUTH!!!

  15. Randall Flagg

    Thanks for admitting that high ranking Democrats opposed what Trump tried to do, and are now blaming him for not doing enough.

    What did Trump TRY to do that they opposed?  Or did they oppose what Trump DID or what Trump said he MIGHT DO?    Want to make sure you are not lying here when you said TRY.

  16. Mar

    You do realize, Pat, Twitter is not news information.
    Not even President Trump’s Twitter page.

  17. Pat

    So what?

  18. Randall Flagg

    You do realize, Pat, Twitter is not news information.

    Absolutely right Mar.  Pointing out Republicans are being hypocrites is not news.  It’s their SOP.

    Republicans NOT being hypocrites would be news.

  19. Le Roi du Nord

    Just curious, how can you rabid trumpeteers defend his actions (or lack of) regarding coronavirus. Take a look at the time line. He was calling the virus the Democrats new hoax, yet already knew that it was a serious disease, and admitted that to Woodward. And continued to down play the seriousness of the situation, over and over again. And then made all sorts of claims about miracle cures, all unproven. How many of the nearly 200,000 deaths so far were preventable if he hadn’t played politics? How many more to come?

  20. Mar

    The above statement is from a person who got everything wrong about the Chinese virus.

  21. Le Roi du Nord

    What did I get wrong, mar?

    The part about it being gone in warm weather? No, that was trump.

    Or that children couldn’t get it? No, that was trump.

    Or that it was under control? No, that was trump, too.

    Like trump, you blame others for your mistakes.

  22. Mar

    You were wrong about everything, Chicken Little Le Roi.
    Don’t talk about Trump when you acted like a scared child hiding under your bed, afraid of monsters. Or afraid of jello. Or afraid of your shadow.
    You were wrong and stupid then.
    You are wrong and stupid now.

  23. MHMaley

    It was actually a partial travel ban . That was the only positive half measure the President took before handing off all responsibility for
    Covid actions to the Governors .

    Now , thousands of American families heard from his own voice that he knew
    in January from Dan Coats that “ the virus will be the biggest
    problem Trump would face .

    Trump told Woodward that the virus was 5x worse than the
    flu and that affected all ages , then went out and told
    Americans the virus would go away with the heat , like a miracle .

    “It’s just like the flu “

    The question was whether he was listening to his medical advisors .
    It turns out he knew EXACTLY how bad the virus going to be
    but deliberately told Americans the opposite was true .

    The laughable part is that he wanted to stop Americans from being afraid .
    That coming from a president running for re- election whose
    only issue is fear .

    Thanks for lowering the bar for Joe in the Debates .
    I see Trump flak Jason Miller ( a dead beat dad ) now trying to
    elevate Joe to the ranks of greatest debater ever as
    the previous strategy appears to have guaranteed a Biden win .

    Your boy is losing and has already wasted $800 million
    on issues that the public is rejecting ( unless they are part of the
    Cult of 43 %

    I expected some “fake News “ or hoax comments
    but that’s tough when you hear his cowardice on the issue
    in his own voice .

    Tell me , has there ever been a dumber candidate
    in the history of presidential politics than Trump giving 18
    hours of tapes dialogue to the preeminent Journalist in
    the last 50 years in the months before his re- election?

    Did he think he would charm Woodward ?

    Let’s all agree with Woodward’s summary :
    He’s not fit for the job .

  24. Mar

    Well, MHMaley, Woodword has a history of making things up,so I kind of understand why he did the interviews.
    But if this such earth shattering news, which it isn’t, why didn’t Woodward immediately disclose this information? Why wait for 2 months before an election?
    No,it’s not a big deal except for brain dead liberals and the liberal media.

  25. Le Roi du Nord


    You are projecting the mistakes made by trump, and your gullibility, onto others. Add to that the juvenile name calling by the both of you and, voila, a cadre of fools.

    And you still didn’t answer the question. Too much for you today?

  26. Le Roi du Nord


    Spot on!

  27. Mar

    Le ROI, I know you are getting up there in age and like Senile Joe Biden, your mind and your long term memory is pretty much gone.
    So let me remind you of the following:
    You were wrong about the hospitals.
    You were wrong about ventilators.
    You were wrong about hydroxychloroquine.
    You were wrong about opening up the economy and country.
    You were wrong about the number of deaths that were expected.
    You were wrong about the side effects of the Chinese virus like drug abuse, suicides, domestic violence.
    You were wrong about Governor Cuomo and putting Chinese virus patients into nursing homes.
    You were wrong about different state shut down rules.
    You are wrong about the rioters and looters and the Chinese virus.
    You were wrong about the Sturgis motorcycle rally.
    You, Le Roi, were wrong about everything about the Chinese virus.
    Deal with it.
    You are wrong about just about everything.

  28. Le Roi du Nord


    You are confusing me with someone else:

    I never commented about hospitals or ventilators.

    I was, and am, right about hydroxychloroquine.

    The rest of your claims are completely bogus, as I didn’t comment on those subjects.

    Regardless, I’m not the president, I’m not elected to be the leader of the nation. trump is.

  29. Mar

    Oh senile Le Roi.
    Yes you did.
    You lie again.
    Or are you just senile?
    Either wzy, it’s time to go to an assisted living facility. Your mind has lost it.
    Or you are lying again.
    Which is it?
    You pathetic fool.

  30. dad29

    How many of the nearly 200,000 deaths so far were preventable

    About 6,500 in New York State, and nearly as many in New Jersey.

    Murder, Inc. (Democrat pols) were very busy there.

  31. Le Roi du Nord

    Well mar, prove it.

  32. Mar

    Prove you are senile?
    Pretty easy. Your poor short term and long term memory are shot and your lying isn’t even convincing.

  33. Le Roi du Nord

    So, ya got nothing, eh?  No surprise.

  34. Mar

    I’m not playing your game you Senile old goat.
    You know what you said, maybe,you just don’t to to admit you are an ignorant old fool.
    You are a Liar and no matter what I say, you will deny you said it.
    So go ahead and play with yourself, your games.
    You are just an uncivil liar.
    Now go play with yourself, your games, Le Roi.

  35. MjM

    Today’s Babblism:

    “Military COVID infected: 118,984. Military COVID deaths: 6,114.” – Babblin’ Joe Biden, reading a list.

    (Actual numbers: Military infected: 40,056. Military deaths: 7. – as of 0600 Sept 9, DOD)

  36. Le Roi du Nord

    So mar, ya got nothing. No surprise.

  37. Mar

    I’ll I will say Le Roi, is that you believed everything the scientists said and when they were proved wrong, you still stuck with what they said.
    You believed idiots like Andrew Cuomo and thought we were going to run out of ventilators and hospital beds.
    You are still against opening up the economy. You are against anything President Trump did.
    So, now tell me what you got right, without lying, of course.

  38. MHMaley

    I’m curious why the burden to expose the Presidents knowledge off the virus
    and Lying to the public falls on Woodward as he was lying .

    “He should have stopped me “ is now the excuse for the lying ?

    Or “Woodward didn’t tell me my actions were wrong based upon what I told the Public
    .. so it’s all his fault . “

    Those dont pass the laugh test .

    No answer yet on why he decided to be interviewed
    for 18 hours .

    Anyone ?

  39. Le Roi du Nord

    No mar, I stuck with them because, looking big picture here( I know that is problematic for you), they were, and still are correct.

    I never commented on Cuomo or ventilators.

    I am all for being smart, and safe. Always was, continue to be.

    I got more right than you and trump combined.

  40. Le Roi du Nord


    His ego got the best of him again. trump thinks he is smarter than everyone else, but in actuality, isn’t. Bad combination for a leader.

  41. Mar

    Lying again, Le Roi, you are so pathetic.
    But predictable.
    There are certain guarantees in life:
    The sun comes up and goes down.
    Everyone will die.
    Le Roi will lie.
    Guarantees of life.

  42. Mar

    More hatred from Le Roi the Hater.
    “trump thinks he is smarter than everyone else, but in actuality, isn’t.”
    Who is the president now?
    That must mean President Trump is still smarter than liberals and Democrats.
    Sucks to be dumber than President Trump, right Le Roi.

  43. Le Roi du Nord

    And mar comes up empty again. No surprise.

    And no mar, I don’t hate anyone, not even you. But I do pity you and your ilk.

    And look at trump now, comparing himself to Churchill. More history denied.

  44. Le Roi du Nord

    And to prove the clueless campaign of trump, they played “Fortunate Son” by CCR at the rally. Irony, or stupidity?

  45. Mar

    And “I Don’t Hate Anyone” Le Roi lies again.
    Won’t even capitalize President Trump’s name.
    What a pathetic loser and yes President Trump is way far more intelligent than you. He proves he is smart every day and you show you are stupid every day.
    And he is President and liberals are not.
    Stupid liberals.

  46. Pat

    “And he is President and liberals are not.
    Stupid liberals.“

    Does that same analogy work when someone references Governor Evers in the same manner? He is Governor and conservatives are not. Stupid conservatives.

  47. Pat

    Or, was it just stupid people who voted both idiots into office

  48. Le Roi du Nord


    One has to wonder if irony is lost on the so called “conservatives “ of today. It’s all about double standards and hypocrisy for them.

  49. Mar

    Well, Pat, what has Evers accomplished?
    And yes, there were some dumb conservatives who voted for Evers.
    But again, President is still way smarter than Le Roi. Accomplished more than Le Roi and lies far less than Le Roi.
    But Le Roi is on equal footing with Senile Joe Biden. Both have serious memory losses and have to lie to cover up their shortcomings.

  50. Le Roi du Nord

    Looks like I’m living rent free in mars’ noggin again. Hopefully keeping you occupied calling me names and making outrageous claims will prevent you from doing more dangerous stuff, both to you and to the general public. Everybody needs to do their part.

  51. jjf

    See, Le Roi, Mar knows everything about you!  Knows what you’ve done and whether it was worthwhile.

  52. Pat

    “Well, Pat, what has Evers accomplished?”

    He was able to beat Walker in an election for Governor of Wisconsin.

  53. Mar

    Well Le Roi, when was the last time you contributed to a meaningfulness conversation here without lying, belittling a person or acting as a troll.
    At least jjf and Pat contribute something every now and then, but not you.
    So long as you treat us like crap, I am going to treat you like crap.
    You’re just a hateful crybaby.

  54. Mar

    Pat, that is true and he deserves credit for that.

  55. Le Roi du Nord

    mar, I tried to steer you straight on the trump virus, hydroxychloroquine, American history, US and WI legal system, etc. And never once did I call you stupid, a moron, or a communist/socialist/fascist. But you were more interested in believing trump than in the truth. That little fella, is all on you.

  56. Mar

    Well, Le Roi, you are wrong about hydroxychloroquine. You have no clue about the criminal justice system.
    And I have never called you a communist,/socialist/fascist so you are lying again.
    And I don’t lie to your face and then blame you for your lies.
    So, nice try. But you are wrong…again

  57. Le Roi du Nord

    No mar, I’m not wrong on hydroxychlorquine, you and trump were, and still are.

    What, pray tell, experience do you have in the legal system (other than defendant)?

    And since we have never met, there is no physical possibility that I lied to your face.  You made that all up.

  58. dad29

    (LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy hopes nobody remembers what he said about HCQ.  He was wrong, but maybe we all forgot.)

  59. Mar

    Le Roi lies again. You just said that hydroxychloroquine works in some cases. Before you said it never works.
    You just don’t like hydroxychloroquine for the Chinese virus because your were told by the media to hate it and because you hate President Trump.
    You are so weak.

  60. Jason

    No, he flat out wrote that he was worried that it would cause a hardship on him to fill his prescription. He really pulled a Pelosi Hair Salon that day.

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