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0801, 06 Aug 20

Push to Strip Police of Non-Lethal Tools Will End in Blood

And that’s the point. The Left is trying to keep police from using non-lethal tools because it leaves the police with two choices when the riot gets out of control: lethal force or retreat. More often than not, the police will retreat and our society will continue to be destabilized. If the police use lethal force, then all the better – in the minds of revolutionaries – more martyrs for the cause. This is all about tearing down society so that it can be rebuilt into something else.

The Charlotte protest was one of the dozens around the country during the past few months where police unleashed tear gas on peaceful protesters. Tear gas has commonly been used as a defensive tool by law enforcement to make rioters disperse.

But during the nationwide Black Lives Matter protests, federal, state and local law enforcement agencies have sometimes been using it offensively, including against peaceful protesters, children, and pregnant women, without providing an escape route or piling on excessive amounts of gas, witnesses and human rights advocates say.

Law enforcement officials say tear gas, if used properly, is an effective tool for crowd control.

Without it, “the only thing left to do is physical force — shields and batons,” said Deputy Police Chief Jeff Estes of the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department. Estes said he’s been exposed to tear gas and pepper spray many times.

“So, I know the effects. I would rather have that than see what we’ve seen in other places where people who are violently assaulting other people have to get hit with sticks and shields,” Estes said.


0801, 06 August 2020


  1. Mar

    No, they were not peaceful protestors.
    If you go to a protest and see someone being violent and do nothing about it, you are also a violent protestor.
    But I love the bias in the article. It really shows how far
    the media has sunk.

  2. Tuerqas

    Meh, Fox News probably reported the ‘peaceful protest’ as a full on riot.  The entire media are now just political machines for one Party or the other.  Truth is always the victim except on the occasions when the truth matches the political agenda.  You can’t really find more than an occasional random truth out there today.

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    typical liberal playbook.

    Disarm good guys.

    Empower criminals.

    Awful. Just awful.

  4. Mike

    I have spent a fair amount of time watching the livestreams of the protests. I have not seen tear gas used on peaceful protests I have seen it used after protests devolved into riots.

    Video clips of those “peaceful protesters that are gassed? They raise their hands and chant hands up don’t shoot after throwing various objects or making a quick attack on something. After watching a while you can see the groups have a coordination and command structure.

  5. jjf

    Looks like Mar wants me to link to Trump’s rally where he encourages them to violence.  So Trump is a violent protester?

  6. Tuerqas

    Looks like Mar wants me to link to Trump’s rally where he encourages them to violence.  So Trump is a violent protester?

    Absolutely.  if Trump is encouraging riots, he would be considered an accessory to any immediately following incident, so he could be classed as a violent protester.

  7. Randall Flagg

    Well put T:  This is the same reason Minneapolis police are seeking a white supremacist who broke windows which lead to looting.

    A Minneapolis police arson investigator said the act of vandalism at the AutoZone on E. Lake Street helped spark a chain reaction that led to days of looting and rioting. The store was among dozens of buildings across the city that burned to the ground in the days that followed.


  8. Mar

    Gee, Randall, 1 white supremacist vs what the racist Antifa does.
    And just perhaps, Randall, the white supremacist believes in what Antifa believes. They have a lot in common.

  9. Kevin Scheunemann

    you libs..keep avoiding basic questions.

    Why do you empower evil while disempowering good guys?

  10. Randall Flagg

    Who defines evil and good guys?  I mean we all know you have Kevin;s dictionary of flexible terms, but you can make a case that any group is good guys and make a case that the same group is evil.

    If you call cops are the good guys but the cops refuse to reign in bad cops, that makes them bad guys in my opinion.  And, since cops can’t police themselves, others have to.  That is the only way to break through the blue wall of silence.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    The Law.

  12. Le Roi du Nord


    Whose law? Your church law, dad‘s natural law, state statutes, federal CFR, local or municipal ordinance? Laws of physics? Thermodynamics? Make a choice, denounce false laws!

  13. Kevin Scheunemann



  14. Le Roi du Nord

    That is a typical non-answer. Bravo!

  15. dad29

    From the Master of Non-Answers himself, still evading the question “How did Scott Walker steal $6K from you, LeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy?”

  16. MjM

    “The Charlotte protest was one of the dozens around the country during the past few months where police unleashed tear gas on peaceful protesters.”

    In the case of Charlotte, that is a outright lie.

    “What began as a peaceful protest in Charlotte, North Carolina, on Tuesday escalated when a small group of people hurled bottles, fireworks and a “chemical agent” at police, authorities said. Around 9 p.m., the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department began tweeting that people were shining lasers at officers and throwing water bottles, a chemical agent and other items. It wasn’t immediately clear what kind of chemical struck the officer, who the department said was on a bike. His condition also wasn’t immediately known. .’Violence is escalating putting protesters and officers in danger,’ the department said. The department said it used tear gas and other riot control agents to disperse the group. – NBC News, June 3, 2020

  17. Kevin Scheunemann


    Still does not excuse your siding with criminal behavior by refusing to denounce them.

  18. Le Roi du Nord


    And where was I “siding with criminal behavior “? You making stuff up again..

  19. Mar

    “And where was I “siding with criminal behavior “? You making stuff up again..”
    You support BLM (Black Lives Matter, not Bureau of Land Management) and Antifa.

  20. Le Roi du Nord

    And where did I ever say that, mar? You are no better than k, making up false claims to sooth your ego. Awful, just awful.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann


    Do you denounce the ongoing Portland rioters, criminals, and looters?

    Do you denounce the Portland Mayor’s awful lack of leadership?

    Do you denounce the only candidate against Portland mayor who is the only bigger left wing, anti-police moonbat than Portland Mayor?

    Let’s see how true law and order you really are.

  22. Le Roi du Nord


    Remember, we have had this conversation numerous times; you don’t get to tell me who, or what, to denounce. Or does your overriding arrogance lead you to believe you can?

    I will , however, denounce anyone that believes that the earth is 6000 years old.

  23. Mar

    “And where did I ever say that, mar?”
    Le Roi, you have been given every chance to denounce those terrorist groups. You refuse.
    Your silence is deafening. Your support is obvious.

  24. Le Roi du Nord


    And you have had numerous chances to expand your meager knowledge base, yet have consistently declined any and all opportunities to add even a tiny bit of intelligence to your baseline trump talking points.

    And recall that you, like k, haven’t earned any right to demand denouncements from others. To continue to believe that you do doesn’t speak well for your comprehension.

  25. Mar

    You realize, Le Roi The Liar Hater, this an opinion blog. Well, wait, maybe you don’t.
    But I digress. I can form my opinion on the facts I see. I see you have said nothing negative about Antifa and BLM and thus, I formed my opinion.
    And you have no right to tell me what my opinion is.
    You support terrorists.
    Prove me wrong.

  26. Le Roi du Nord

    True mar, but when you state your opinion, as misguided as it may be, as fact, you deserve whatever criticism comes your way. And to rational folks your opinion is meaningless

  27. Mar

    Well, Le Roi, you’re not rational, so who cares?
    And keep on loving violent gangs.

  28. Le Roi du Nord

    Well mar, you are free to express your opinion, however wrong it may be.

  29. Kevin Scheunemann


    If you cannot do that simple denouncing of criminal evil…you are not a friend of law enforcement.

    You talk a good game, but back it with little discernable action apart from those that hate law enforcement.

  30. Le Roi du Nord


    I’ve done plenty of “discernible action” , both in my career, and as an elected official. You just whine.

  31. dad29

    The question though is whose cameras are you watching.

    Irrelevant and immaterial “whose” video.

    What is ON the video is relevant and material.

    Try again.  Jiffy is better and mis-direction than you are.  Practice!!

  32. Kevin Scheunemann


    Not going to answer my very easy questions?

    Your silence Awful. Just awful.

    For someone claiming to support law enforcement, you certainly don’t support them openly when it counts.

  33. Le Roi du Nord


    So making a “denouncement” on B&S is where it “counts” ? Not 30 years of actions, nor local legislative support? You are being controlled by your ego, k, not any rational thought process. Grow up, little fella.

  34. Mar

    Le Roi, nope. Don’t know nothing about your career.
    For all we know, you could have been living in the basement, collecting welfare while drinking Coors all day long for 50 years.

  35. Kevin Scheunemann

    Boots is the official blog of record.

    Of course this is where it counts.

    Your lack of open faith supporting law enforcement and denouncing awful leftist criminals is disturbing.

  36. Le Roi du Nord


    “Boots is the official blog of record.”

    “Of course this is where it counts.”

    Perhaps for you, but it is a pretty small and narrow-minded world you live in.  I choose reality.


    And we know nothing of your career, so we are even.  And no, I have never lived in a basement, collected welfare, and don’t care for Coors.  Wromg again.

  37. Kevin Scheunemann

    Still not going to openly side with cops here?

    Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

  38. Le Roi du Nord


    I have always sided with law enforcement. How about you, the guy that wants to use lethal force on suspects, supports the likes of flynn and stone, and thinks that a blog has official standing?

  39. Kevin Scheunemann


    If you side with law enforcement, how about supporting them here against pro criminal liberal politicians?

    Crickets again?

  40. Mar

    No, Le Roi, you have not always sided with law enforcement.
    You are too cowardly to even say that what is going on in Portland by liberal extremists is wrong. You refuse to condemn liberal extremist groups.
    You refuse to condemn the rioting and looting by liberal extremists.
    I don’t you support the liberal extremists but I also don’t think you support law enforcement either.

  41. Mar

    And to Le Roi, more evidence you don’t support and law and justice.
    Michael Flynn was railroaded by corrupt liberal law enforcement. Do you support corrupt law enforcement, Le Roi?
    As far as Roger Stone, you must support a biased court system where the judge and jury foreperson are completely prejudiced against Stone.
    You support corruption, Le Roi?
    I guess so.
    Hate proper law enforcement, love corrupt liberal law enforcement, love corrupt justice.
    Thy name is Le Roi The Liar Hater.

  42. Le Roi du Nord

    k and mar:

    So as long as condemn liber politicians and liberal extremists I meet your test of purity? What about supporting fair, firm, and consistent enforcement, apprehension, prosecution, and sentencing of ALL that violate federal, state, and local laws, statutes, codes, and ordinances? Or are you only concerned about going after liberals?

    Re: stone and flynn; stone was found guilty by a jury of his peers, flynn pleaded guilty twice. Make up all the BS you want, but you can’t change the facts.

  43. Kevin Scheunemann

    we are more concerned about liberal thugs right now because liberal politicians are excusing them, breaking down civil society. To top it off, calling for defunding of law enforcement!

    Are you siding with liberal evil that does pro criminal support? Or civil society?

  44. Mar

    I guess Le Roi does support liberal corruption.
    How sad.
    How pathetic.
    How typically liberal.

  45. jjf

    Uh oh, Mar has caught Kevin’s denounce-a-virus.

  46. Kevin Scheunemann


    Gee, it is not like you, Pelosi, and other libs aren’t denouncing Trrump every day.

    At least my denouncements have substance to awful action beyond “orange man bad”.

  47. jjf

    Your process seems faster, Kevin.  No matter what it is, declare that other people must love it because they haven’t denounced it yet.

  48. Le Roi du Nord


    So rather than be concerned about criminals of all types, they are more concerned about “liberal thugs”, rather than any and all folks that break the law.  That is a pretty telling reveal about their bias towards, and approval of “conservative” criminals, and their general reluctance to enforce the laws fairly and consistently.  My, my, what hypocritical lives they lead.

    Let’s see how they spin this one……

  49. Kevin Scheunemann


    Conservatives don’t get wholesale excused like liberal thugs do in Portland, Seattle.

    Also, conservatives rarely act like thugs on the wide scale liberals do.


  50. Le Roi du Nord

    Nah, not true k.  I have provided numerous examples for you, so have others.  Your ideological blinders are so tight that your thought processes, however meager to begin with, and further impaired.  Exaggeration, hyperbole, and outright lies don’t make you more credible, only more pathetic.

  51. Mar

    Didn’t you know Kevin, the Tea Party was just a violent mob? They rioted for several months.
    And no conservative ever condemned their rioting.
    Oh wait,I was reading Le Roi’s mind.
    Very scary. Very scary.

  52. Le Roi du Nord

    “And no conservative ever condemned their rioting.”

    Wrong again, mar:

    “The British response to the Boston Tea Party was to impose even more stringent policies on the Massachusetts colony. The Coercive Acts levied fines for the destroyed tea, sent British troops to Boston, and rewrote the colonial charter of Massachusetts, giving broadly expanded powers to the royally appointed governor.”

    American History:  Start of the Revolution, 1770-1776

  53. Mar

    Gee, Le Roi, you’re a lot older than I thought.
    So, you’re saying the Revolutionaries like George Washington, are the equivalent to the modern day Antifa and BLM thugs?
    Wow. Just wow.

  54. Kevin Scheunemann

    Of course Nord would oppose the American revolution.

    He is for more godless, Marxist, revoltion.   That is why he excuses leftists criminals of today.


  55. Le Roi du Nord

    k and mar:

    Nope, never said any of that.  You guys made that all up.  Feel better about yourself now?

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