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1457, 17 Nov 17

Bill Proposed to Protect Kids with Guns at School

This seems utterly reasonable, and in a sane world, unnecessary.

MADISON (WKOW) — Some high school students would no longer have to fear being expelled for having a gun at school, under a limited exemption being considered by state lawmakers.

Under current law, if a student leaves an unloaded gun in their locked car, in the the school parking lot, they would face a mandatory expulsion hearing if anyone reports it to the administration.

But the Wisconsin Association of School Boards (WASB) asked Rep. Joel Kleefisch (R-Oconomowoc) to craft legislation that would exempt schools from starting that expulsion process, if law enforcement investigates the incident and doesn’t press charges..

WASB President Steve McCloskey told the Assembly Committee on Education Thursday it is not uncommon for students in rural Wisconsin to hunt before and after school.

And since many of those students live a far distance away from school, McCloskey said it is reasonable for them to keep an unloaded rifle in their locked vehicle.


1457, 17 November 2017


  1. jsr

    Seems reasonable.  Back in the fifties my father used to hunt ducks before and after school with his buddies.  They all stashed their shotguns (and a duck or two) in their lockers.  No one worried about it.  And, yes, everyone knew about it.  The principal would occasionally ask how they had done.

  2. jsr

    Hmmm…  After googling a bit, it seems like that was not unusual.

    See the accounts posted to this blog:

    Or maybe Scalia’s rifle story:

    “The attitude of people associating guns with nothing but crime, that is what has to be changed,” Scalia told the audience of about 2,000.

    “I grew up at a time when people were not afraid of people with firearms,” said Scalia, noting that as a youth in New York City he was part of a rifle team at the military school he attended.

    “I used to travel on the subway from Queens to Manhattan with a rifle,” he said. “Could you imagine doing that today in New York City?”


  3. Mike

    Statute 120.13(bm) needs to be changed to specify any unlawful possession of a firearm. Here is the current wording:

    (bm) The school district administrator or any principal or teacher designated by the school district administrator shall suspend a pupil under par. (b) if the school district administrator, principal or teacher determines that the pupil, while at school or while under the supervision of a school authority, possessed a firearm, as defined in 18 USC 921 (a) (3). This paragraph does not apply to the possession of a firearm while legally hunting in a school forest if allowed under s. 120.13 (38).

    Statute 948.605(2)(b)3 already provides an exception in the law for firearms that are unloaded and in a case on school grounds.

    From Wi statute 948.605:


    (2) Possession of firearm in school zone.
    (b) Paragraph (a) does not apply to the possession of a firearm by any of the following:

    3. A person possessing a gun that is not loaded and is any of the following:
    a. Encased.
    b. In a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle.
    3m. A person who is legally hunting in a school forest if the school board has decided that hunting may be allowed in the school forest under s. 120.13 (38).

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