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2211, 14 Jun 17

REINS Act Sent to Governor


The state Assembly today approved a bill adding more scrutiny to administrative rules that have an economic impact estimate of at least $10 million over a two-year period.

The Assembly’s approval, on a 62-34 vote, sends the REINS Act to Gov. Scott Walker’s desk for his signature. The state Senate approved the bill last month.

The bill requires that rules that meet the $10 million threshold need to get approval from the Legislature. Agencies would otherwise have to tweak the rule to reduce the costs below $10 million if they want to implement it.


2211, 14 June 2017


  1. Kevin Scheunemann

    The threshold should be $1000, if we are serious about reigning rogue rule making state agencies!

    This is a good start.

  2. 9606

    Right on.
    The Madison swamp is only a little less deep than DC’s.

  3. Le Roi du Nord


    A couple questions for you:

    Do you know who has been in control of government in Madison for the last 6+ years?

    Do you know how administrative rules are promulgated?


    I agree, time to make a big change in both the legislature and governors office.

  4. billphoto

    Some apparently do not understand the purpose of the REINS act.  The growth of the administrative state eliminates the possibility of responsible regulation: both responsible in the sense of accountability and responsible in the sense of fair treatment.  The REINS Act is an attempt to return the decision making process to elected officials that are supposed to represent our best interests.


    Whenever the possibility of reforming or eliminating our modern bureaucracy is brought up, the typical response is twofold: We need the expertise of the bureaucrats and getting rid of bureaucracy would mean a return to anarchy.  The REINS Act is really an attempt to force our elected officials to do their job instead of deferring to unelected bureaucrats.  Sadly, this had to pass along party lines but that is understandable considering this is something previous administration failed to do.

  5. Kevin Scheunemann


    I know how rules are promulgated, having been victim of archaic, vague, gotcha, rule making many times!

    Personally, no final rule should be implemented without legislative authority and approval. However, bureaucrats, like yourself, probably detest that.

  6. Le Roi du Nord


    Always the victim.  You have been playing that card so often the spots are worn off.

    If in fact you know how the rules are promulgated, then you would see the error in your comment, “reigning rogue rule making state agencies!”.  So obviously you don’t.  And you haven’t responded to the question of who has been in control of the state for the last 6+ years.  If you have a problem, blame those in power.

    And it is also transparently obvious you don’t know the definition of the word bureaucrat.  I’ll bet you could get a good dictionary at Goodwill, of use one for free at the library.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann


    Liberals don’t want to face the victims they create with their policies?


  8. billphoto

    I keep reading “been in control of the state for the last 6+ years” like it is a bad thing but the REINS Act passed the Assembly on party line vote and the Senate on a nearly party line vote.  I am no fan of many of the Bought-and-Paid-for crowd on either side of the aisle but it would appear to me that the party that has “been in control of the state for the last 6+ years” got one in the win column this time.

  9. Le Roi du Nord


    I was pointing out kevins complaint about “rogue agencies”, when in fact those agencies have been controlled by republicans for more than 6 years.  he must have forgotten that.   REINS is really a solution looking for a problem, as all rules promulgated during the walker administration had to pass his desk.

  10. Kevin Scheunemann


    This is the fix for the next Jim Doyle type, which I hope does not happen for a long time.

  11. Le Roi du Nord

    So you lied about the rogue agencies??  Or just didn’t really know what was going on???

  12. Kevin Scheunemann


    I’m saying problem has been much less under Walker, but still needs this legislation.

    It was horrible under Doyle….many of those horrible Doyle rules are still in place.

    That is what I am saying.   The “rogue” agency issue is cumulative.

    …but that may be a difficult concept for you.

  13. billphoto

    Walker, like Trump, has a long way to go to drain the swamp.  The under estimating costs at WisDOT are just one example BUT I think both are doing better than their predecessors.

  14. Le Roi du Nord


    No, you didn’t say that at all.  And the only Doyle era rules in place are ones walker wants kept in place.  If that is what you wanted to say why didn’t say that to begin with ?

    The difficulty is you not being able to make a clear statement of fact, but rather toss out numerous falsehoods hoping no one will catch you.  You can do better.

  15. Kevin Scheunemann


    My fault. I operate at an advanced policy level in my thoughts. I don’t always bring it down to grade school level for you.

    That one is on me. Glad we cleared that up. Sorry.

  16. Le Roi du Nord

    “Advanced policy level”.  If that were true then you wouldn’t have made the faux pas, “rogue rule making state agencies”.  Har, har, har, har…….

    You just use word salad to try to score points.  It doesn’t become you…..

  17. Kevin Scheunemann

    You just confirmed what level you are at with that comment.

    I will be mindful of that in the future in any comments I make.

  18. Paul

    More lies and personal attacks from the white nationalist pederast troll.

  19. Le Roi du Nord

    Why don’t you say what you mean the first time, rather than twist your words and those of others to cover your mistakes or omissions??  Your credibility really suffers when you make such a shambles of simple sentence structure, and rely on CYA to make your point.

  20. Paul

    More personal attacks from the white nationalist troll.

  21. NHolland

    Hey Paul,
    By all definitions you are the troll. Get a life, grow up or go suck farts. Any individual using a “gangster” photo as their profile picture much be compensating for something. What is it age, baldness or a small penis. Whatever it is, and I don’t really care, get over it. Either contribute to the posts or crawl back under your rock. Enjoy your crappy day…

  22. Paul

    Please consider killing yourself. I don’t see what value you add to this blog, society or the planet.

  23. NHolland

    How clever and so deep. Did you come up with that all by yourself or did your mommy help you. Just wondering… And because you have that anal fixation thing, is Paul short for Rupaul?

  24. Paul

    That fell about 50 yards from making sense.

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