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0954, 24 May 17

Wisconsin Republicans Lean Toward Spending Increase

Why does it seem that on every issue the Wisconsin legislative Republicans are tilting toward the most anti-conservative position?

Gov. Scott Walker has proposed freezing tuition next year, cutting tuition by 5 percent in the 2018-19 school year and providing $35 million in taxpayer funds to the UW System to cover the lost tuition revenue from the tuition cut.

Walker also is proposing $42.5 million in new performance-based funding to be divvied up among the UW campuses, $11.6 million for UW employee raises and $50 million to restore some of the $250 million in cuts the System absorbed in the two-year budget cycle that ends June 30.

Assembly Republicans oppose cutting tuition, said finance committee co-chairman John Nygren, R-Marinette. They would prefer to use some of the $35 million on financial aid for low-income students.

I’m not a big fan of Walker’s proposal. While a tuition decrease would be welcome, back-filling it with more state funds merely shifts the burden without correcting the problem. The problem is that the university system spends too dang much and has made itself unaffordable for a lot of middle class Wisconsin families. But at least Walker’s proposal is spending neutral.

Legislative Republicans apparently just want to spend more. They want to spend the additional $35 million on UW not as an offset to a tuition decrease, but just to spend more money. Instead of subsidizing kids who can’t afford to attend a UW school, how about they focus on bringing down the cost so that we don’t feel a need to subsidize so many kids?

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0954, 24 May 2017

25 Comments

  1. dad29

    Any information on the number of FTE State employees?

    Budget cycle-to-budget cycle comparisons?

    That might tell a tale, too.

     

  2. MjM

    Owen,  from your quoted story above, Walker is proposing over $77 million in new UW spending and laying that increase on taxpayers.   Please explain how this is “spending neutral” ?

    This is insane.

    Walker,  et. al.,  do not need to rape taxpayers again for any UW funding

    UWMadison is sitting on a nearly a $900 milion of unrestricted funds, by way of ill-gotten tuition increases (over  $1billion in all).  Last year the slush fund grew by $50 million.   Take it from Madison,  if needed.

    The problem is, none of it is NEEDED.

     

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    There is a good chunk of kids who should not be subsidized.    I’m talking about kids concerned with partying, drug use, and other non-academic pursuits that cause the student to not take their academic duties seriously.    UW graduation rates are ridiculously low.   We need to stop subsidizing the students that don’t make it by poor life choices.

     

  4. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Just wondering if you could qualify your statement, “UW graduation rates are ridiculously low” ?

    Per the CHE data UW Madison graduates 55% of students in 4 years, and WI Lutheran graduates 45.3% in 4 years.

  5. Paul

    White nationalist trolls have no standing to call out other commenters.

  6. Le Roi du Nord

    petite paul:

    Any proof or citation for this white nationalist troll claim??  Otherwise it is just more BS from the master.

  7. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Why don’t you want to talk about UWM’s 31% four year graduation rate? Oshkosh and Parkside have worse rates!

    UWM can’t even graduate 48% within 6 years!

    That’s the waste I am talking about. If UW-Madison can get 10-15 more percent than pathetic UWM to graduate….we can cut 40% of student waste at Madison and near 55% of student resource waste at UW-Milwaukee.

    Get rid of binge drinkers, chronic partiers, and drug users, ignoring their academics we could save $250 million easy!

    Let’s give them all a random drug/alcohol test.

  8. Paul

    He sleeping at his fake town government job, Kevin.

  9. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    If you had made that claim against UWM I probably would have said anything.  But you made an unqualified accusation based on opinion rather than fact.  And you make no attempt to justify WI Luth lower score.  Or is “ridiculous” only a claim you can make??

    Sorry pp, I’ve been up and active since long before sun-up.

  10. Paul

    Of course you were. Burning crosses is a nocturnal activity for you.

  11. Le Roi du Nord

    Wrong again, little guy.  Why don’t you prove all those klan and white nationalist claims?  Put your money where your mouth is, smart guy.

  12. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    I was talking about all UW graduation rates, not just Madison.

    You focused on Madison to cherry pick your big government justification to waste money.   I then draged out UWM because of your foolish response to ignore the bad data.

    Don’t sling manure and then cry that you stink.

     

     

  13. Le Roi du Nord

    Wrong again, k, the data is just fine.   I mentioned UW Madison and WI Luth as a comparison.  You have repeatedly been the slinger at the Madison campus, yet they have a better graduation rate than a private Lutheran school.  Now define what ridiculous means.

  14. Kevin Scheunemann

    31% graduatrion rate is just fine?

    You really are out of tune with reality.

    That is what I call “ridiculous”.

     

     

  15. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    You are being willfully ignorant again.  The data from CHE is just fine. If you don’t think so say why your graduation rate data is better.  I didn’t say anything about the graduation rates of any institution being fine.  You intentionally misinterpreting the words of others to suit your needs.

    So again I ask, is 55% grad rate from UW Madison OK or ridiculous?  Same question for WI Lutheran at 45.3% ?

  16. Paul

    I’d put money where your mouth is, but your Klan hood is in the way.

  17. Sacks

    Nord:

    “…yet they have a better graduation rate than a private Lutheran school. Now define what ridiculous means.”

    Ridiculous is your intellectually lazy attempt to use a private college grad rate as a comparison to a public university grad rate, especially since the article is about STATE funding.

    Surely as a servant of the public you understand that.

  18. Paul

    And Le Roi du Bore gets owned again.

  19. Le Roi du Nord

    sack:

    Exactly how is that intellectually lazy?  The % rate is actual data from CHE, and shows that a public school has a better 4 year rate that a private school.  Why is that ridiculous?

    And the debate in question was kevin’s claim, not the data.

  20. Paul

    The Klansman got owned.

  21. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    If you read my comment before your UW Madison comment I am talking ENTIRE UW system.

    You started cherry picking. I just returned favor.

    Not my argument, it was your argument.

    You got stung slinging manure and now you can’t dig your way out.

  22. Le Roi du Nord

    k:

    Well you didn’t day that, and that is why I asked you to qualify your definition of ridiculous.  You still haven’t done that, nor explained how UW Madison, a known hotbed of debauchery and sloth, has a better graduation rate than a private Lutheran school.  And I’ll bet you never will.  Have a great day.

  23. Paul

    Another set of lies from the white nationalist troll.

  24. Kevin Scheunemann

    Nord,

    Despite your lie.   Your point is irrelevant since WI Lutheran does not get taxpayer support in same manner UW does.   If it did then we would discuss graduation rates i that manner….although I would start with the dreck of UW system, Milwaukee, Parkside and Oshkosh.

     

  25. Jason

    >Well you didn’t day that, and that is why I asked you to qualify your definition of ridiculous.

    Wow,how to Fisk a single sentence… lol.

    “Didn’t day that” from Mr `filter everything before you post it`, haha what an ass.

    “and that is why I asked you to qualify”. You didn’t ask for anything, you attempted to cherry pick some meaningless stat and failed. Al, I expected better from a long term DNR desk jockey. You get the last word here, asshat…

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