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Look Major, You don’t have to care about our laws but if you violate one, look who is going to get punished. You have a point there, but we’re all part of evolution. Evolution saids survival of the fittest, the stronger preys on the weak. Countries that are weak tend to be devoured by the stronger.
Note that we were still Eurpoean citizens when we killed the native americans and enslaved the african, we killed in the name of the Queen and followed her orders. if i was io give a name of what happen then i would call it imperialism and its casualties.
Speaking of morals and dominating countries, if it wasn’t for the allies we would all be speaking German now. Oh yes, how many jewish people die during the holocaust? Moral? who gives? You don’t think you’ll get off that easy would you?
Who is proud to be American? I am, as long as i’m not the other guys out there.

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A great nation, is a nation who stands above everyone else. USA is a great nation, it is practicing all the essence of what it is. Remember Darwin? In fact, We are being nice. Germany… I must remind you of the cruelty you’ve done to the jewish people, think twice before you guys talk about morals. Oh yes, remember who started the first 2 world wars while you’re at it.

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Hey, a German complaining about “And I had to go to school there with all the flag showings, and morning pledges.” *snicker*

Granny Get Your Gun(s)

I keep a S&W;.357 Magnum, a Rossi .38 special, and my 12-guage Winchester Defender handy for anyone who might venture into my home unannounced.  I prefer revolvers for home defence because of their simplicity.  I have a few knives scattered about too (even a sword or two).  They never run out of ammo.

Janet Jackson's Boob

Wow… that last post wasn’t there when i went to write mine. I spent some time in Germany, let me assure you that most Germans are far more articulate than that.

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Actually, the flag thing bothered me. It didn’t look to me like it was clothing. It looked like a flag with a slit cut in the center. It was ragged and unkempt, and should have been separated into it’s main components and burned. But instead it was worn by a sweaty little man, ripped off, tossed to a guitarist, and put down on a speaker. And I’m sorry if people from other countries don’t understand why we have respect for our flag, we just do. We also have a lot of traditions surrounding it, although most people aren’t aware of them anymore, ask any member of the Armed Services how to dispose of a flag though, and they’ll tell you. Oh, and by the way, Air Force personnel officers make me laugh. I’ll salute you and call you Sir, but don’t pretend that you’re hardcore.

Janet Jackson's Boob

What to say....I shake my head in disbelief of what you people of the so-calles “great nation” have to worry about.
I’m European, German by the way....
I grew up partly in the US and in the States. And I had to go to school there with all the flag showings, and morning pledges.
Now, thats 20 years gone.
I still feel sick about the pledge of allegiance, or what it’s called. Every day that I get to grow older and see what injustice your country brings upon the world makes me want to vomit even more.
You call yourself a great nation ??? By what fucking standards, anyway ??
By polluting the environment of the entire with your crappy cars, consuming more fuel that all of the rest of the world ??
By destroying natural habitats, life and peoples home thru your oil companies in South America or the Anarctic ? Because at home, you’d get in trouble doing so or being called unpatriotic ??
Or is it by invading countries that have a despotic regime with faked proof of weapons that never existed ? Just to live the “American Dream” = we rule the world, and let’s not stop us from making money with others people’s resources…
Proud to be an American ?? Show me why !
You killed the real Americans, the natives. You build you countrys wealth upon Slaves blood and lives. You hijacked every other country in this world to dominate oil resources, stock markets and technology. You leave your poor out in the cold to die. You shove guns into kids hands, make sure they get to know how to use them everyday on TV and send them out to other countries to practice for real - and you cry out if these kids see a boob displayed during a stupid sports event ???
And you tell me it is NOT about the boob per se - it*s about not obeying the law that does not permit a nipple during prime time ??
SO WHO THE F**K CARES ABOUT YOUR LAWS ANYWAY ???
You never respect other peoples rights if it touches your countrys foreign interest, well, this was 2 US citizens showing all the world that sometimes there is good in you people - they knew it was not permitted, and showed you what they think of it.

And thats what they did - the freedom of speech, and the freedom of thought.
The only thing that America can be proud of. Just like any other Democracy - think back in you tiny history of 300 years, you all crawled out of Europe’s bowls .
Get real, stay low and get on with life - you need to refocus on the worlds problems not on your deceased moral ....

Granny Get Your Gun(s)

That gun rocks. A real home-defense...like firing a cannon. Bet that guy won’t forget that day. Probably peed himself.

Janet Jackson's Boob

OMG how the hell do people get so stupid, whining over a flag shirt being dropped to the ground or janet jackson showing her boob which wasn’t even for half a second. OMG my child saw a boob, now he will be come a pervert… are you kidding me he is a little kid, the whole thing happened so fast he or she probably didn’t even realize what was just on the TV.  Stupid Americans find the stupidest things to bitch about… You know nothing of patriotism.. how does dropping a shirt that looks like an american flag count as treasonist.. give me a break.. you all need to get over yourselves!!!!

Letter From Doyle

How disgusting.

This was more of a personal victory for him than it was for anyone else in Wisconsin.

Keep fighting the right fight, people. This is a letter of fear, nothing more.

Have a nice day

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im with krik on this one. i think that if God didnt want women to have tits he wouldnt have made them, i like tits and im not offended at all. i know that she did it on purpace like everyone else knows. SO DEAL WITH IT! p.s if anyone here owns a dreamcast and wants HALF LIFE (the game) then e-mail me at:emseadidit@yahoo.com and ill send you a copy free. no mod chip or bootdisk is required. -Daniel

Janet Jackson's Boob

I say, lets make it legal to allow women to walk around topless as men are allow to do so. Nudity is a normal thing, and women’s breast is a beautiful thing. Share it.

Gun Auction

I was never impressed with gunbroker.. seems to be mostly dealers advertising under the guise of auctions.. most stuff doesn’t have serious bids on it.. but it’s certainly interesting to peruse

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Ok dave got a question for you mister high and almighty.
1. Is it ok for an 8year old to watch a game solely designed around violence and gore?
guess for u it is.
2. Do you allow your 8 year old to watch tv at night.... pretty much any station?
seeing as even the cartoons today are all about violence and sex as well as every show out there. guess your kids only watch PBS...oh wait they show nudity too.

So what i am saying is that to all the people out there offended by a boob. Deal with it i mean christ you were watching a game of violence. If a boob at halftime is offensive what about all the EXTREME closeups of the cheerleaders? oh and BTW she had a pastey so it wasn’t even nudity. are u so anal retentive that a pastey is nudity. Unappropriate yes but immoral not likely. Does your daughter like Britney? what about lil kim? Emimien? what about MTV? it is all about sex and nudity there. In the world we live in sex and violence sell and they are the basis of almost every program out there. So if that offends you then turn off the BOOB tube and go back to reading your books.... Oh wait i forgot books use words like breasts and heaving and passion. so I guess those are out too. Why not worry about education and teaching your kid(s) about real life and not trying to keep them in the dark about how life really is.

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I didn’t watch the game. I hate football. I did watch the half time show when I heard Janet. I do like her. When her breast was revealed it was a shock but I was not upset about it. I knew it was going to be top news. I do think it was on purpose and a publicity stunt it took the attention away from Michael. It worked. Should Janet be fined?, I don’t think so when you compare it to all the other things on television. I’ve seen worse things on soap operas. What you should be concerned about is the Federal Reserve Bank with there Fiat money.It robbes this country of it’s wealth. Causing inflation you know, lose of purchasing power. People our dollar hasen’t been backed by precious metals since 1963. Now that is an outrage.

PS: for all you so called patriotic people the war was all about oil and money.

Granny Get Your Gun(s)

Yep, that’s pretty much the way it’s supposed to work. The bad guy poses a threat to your safety and security, and you return a threat to his safety with your right to safety and security.

Have a nice day

Fat Suits

You’re right, Hope.  I can do better than that

I’m a little surprised that you would even argue the point that there isn’t a problem with frivolous lawsuits.  The problem with them are <a target="_blank" href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3660738/">all around us.</a> But the problem isn’t just the actual lawsuits, it is the <a target="_blank" href="http://headaches.about.com/cs/advocacy/a/lamus_cala.ht m">fear of the lawsuits</a>.  The costs of this fear are built into every product and every service.  Doctors charge more for their services to cover the cost of their high malpractice insurance.  Consumer products cost more to cover the cost of possible litigation when people misuse their products.  It’s everywhere. 

Let’s take a look at your study.  The fact that only 10% of injured parties sue is irrelevant.  They are legitimately injured and should seek compensation.  Their suits aren’t frivolous.  The low number points to a problem, but not this one.

The fact that jury awards have kept pace with inflation is a dubious statistic.  I’d like to see the methodology.  But it doesn’t matter if 99.9% of lawsuits are resolved within reasonable limits.  It’s the fear of being in the 0.1% that makes people and companies react.  Furthermore, it doesn’t matter if an award is within some financial reasonableness if the award is based on a frivolous claim.  Too many times, frivolous claims win because it gets before a sympathetic (or pathetic) jury that feels bad for the wheezing old lady instead of actually looking at the law.  It is up to the judge to prevent bad cases from ever getting in front of a jury. 

As far as most cases being the product of contract disputes and such, who cares?  Again, those are legitimate cases for which the court system was designed.  It does not address the issue of frivolous lawsuits.

A huge example of this problem are the tobacco suits.  Most of the cases against the tobacco companies were completely frivolous.  Yet, judges eventually let them get to juries.  The juries only saw a mean ol’ corporation fighting against a little old man talking through a tube in his neck and felt sorry for him.  The result was hundreds of billions of dollars in awards.  You may think that this is no big deal because the tobacco companies are evil and only other smokers will have to pay higher costs and they may quit because of it, which is a good thing, but you would be wrong to think that.  The tobacco lawsuits are having effects far beyond their industry.  Do you not think that the food industry, gun industry, alcohol industry, the automobile industry, and just about every other industry isn’t building up their legal defenses already?  The costs for their lawyers are already being seen in the price of just about everything you buy.  This is having such an effect because the grounds upon which the tobacco lawsuits were based were total crap - for lack of a better word.  All of this has a real effect on lives.  There are fewer jobs, the cost of insurance continues to rise, and taxes go up all because of the pervasive fear of frivolous lawsuits.

Beyond the financial impact of these suits is the general impact on our culture.  We are inundated with warning labels that insult the intelligence of any higher order mammal.  We have to question whether or not we might be sued before helping a person having a heart attack. We hesitate to loan our hedge trimmer to the neighbor because of a fear that he might sue if injured.  The lawsuits themselves, and the fear they generate, have seeped into almost everything we do.  We must put an end to it.

Granny Get Your Gun(s)

That’s great!

(Hey, shouldn’t you be reading?)

Janet Jackson's Boob

dave, seriously, does your daughter ask why directors take tight shots of cheerleaders standing in a group shaking their boobs for about 5-10 seconds?
Did you have to answer questions from your daughter the first time she saw the two girls mud wrestle and fountain wrestle after taking off their clothes in slow motion and yelling, “taste great, less filling”? A thirty second commercial played over and over again?
Did you get a stared and confused look from your daughter when she watched the girl ride the mechanical bull eating a Carl’s Jr. burger? Another thirty second commercial played over and over again during many football games.
Does your daughter ever ask why coaches and players sometimes get away with yelling profanities by “mistake” into open microphones during the game, or when a coach yells, “what the F--K” and the commentators call that replay up with no audio and say, “I think you know what he said.”
Gimme a break Dave, we are immoral but you already expose your eight year old daughter to sex, profanity, and violence. You don’t think she gets it, the commercials, the replays, the athletes cussing, and the scantily clad cheerleaders, all just a prelude to what Janet and Justin did. And if by any chance the entire boob showing was a mistake, then the repurcussions should be the same for when it is a mistake to hear a player yell, “bullshit” after a penalty is called on him. Dave ask yourself, was it seeing the boob that made you angry, or the way the boob was displayed in a sexy way? I think it is the ladder because I am sure your daughter has seen a boob before, but seeing it displayed with that kind of dancing, well the commercials, pg13 movies, and games give you all the same acts without the actual less than a second blurb of a semi covered boob.
And one more question Dave, has your daughter ever seen you speed without getting a ticket, roll through a stop sign with out getting a ticket, double park, comeback to an expired meter without a ticket, litter? Has your daughter seen you break any of these laws without repurcussions? MORALS DAVE, WHERE DID THEY GO?

Granny Get Your Gun(s)

I love this story, thanks for bringing it to our attention… :D

Practice Court Update

Choose your seat wisely.

Janet Jackson's Boob

Hmmmmm...Ok lets see I have an 8 year old little girl who every year watches football with me on the couch. We have a blast! Commercials, football, chips, soda even the half-time show. But for all of you immoral individuals that are saying “it was just a boob” and “get over it” I am sure you didn’t have a stared and confused look from an 8 year old that started asking questions immediatly after she had seen that clip. It was un-approiate, lude and trashy. If that was me or you displaying nudity to the public we would be arrested for indecent exposure. So that means now by watching a family oriented event we can say to our kids 1.) nudity is fine and 2.) we can break the law without any repercussions. MORALS people. Where did they go?

Janet Jackson's Boob

i would love to see them Niki.

Fat Suits

Aww, Owen, you can do better than that.

“The mere fact...”—show me some facts. Don’t just give me your opinion. It took only a quick google to find <a target="_blank" href="http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/1998/02/09/ editorial2.html">an article</a> (a few years old, but points to a study and puts numbers to it) that, if accurate, seems to undercut your assertion:

“Recent statistics reveal a frivolous lawsuit problem simply does not exist in America. The most comprehensive analysis on the subject, completed by one of the most respected think tanks in America—the Rand Institute for Civil Justice—surfaced in the early ‘90s. The evidence in the Rand report, bolstered by subsequent reports on the subject, demonstrates only 10 percent of people who are injured ever use the tort system to seek compensation for their injuries.

According to the studies, between 1960 and 1990, average and median jury verdicts barely keep pace with inflation. While big business and insurance interests would have you believe that frivolous lawsuits plague our courts, the truth is, since 1991 tort cases reflect only 6 percent of cases filed. [...]

If there is a problem with a litigation explosion in this country, the cause of it more accurately lies with America’s big-business interests, rather than with the ordinary citizen. Between 1985 and 1991, business disagreements made up nearly half of all federal litigation, with suits over contract disputes outpacing any other single category. Lawsuits between big businesses over contracts more than tripled in the federal courts between 1960 and 1988, while lawsuits filed against them by ordinary citizens declined 21 percent. Since 1986, lawsuits against small-business operations and individuals have declined by 12 percent.

[...]in federal courts product-liability cases against Fortune 1000 companies have dropped from a high of 3,500 in 1985 to 1,500 in 1991. Moreover, between 1987 and 1993 product-liability premiums fell 45 percent.”

Practice Court Update

Good luck.  Hope the time goes by quickly!

Practice Court Update

At least you’re catching up on your reading.

Bracelets for Sex

ive been werin these braclets for a long time and i dont intend to get rid of them.and i would like to know what pash and ranbow kiss mean . please e mail me if any boys want to chat.my e mail is

i love the meanings of these
braclets

Gun Auction

<a target="_blank" href="http://www.auctionarms.com/">Auction Arms</a> is good, too.

Janet Jackson's Boob

Hey.. Guess what??? I have TIT’S too.. Wanna see them?? LOL.. It isn’t a big deal.. My god.. So we seen Janet’s tit.. Woohoo! I feel so sad that people are getting so worked up about this! You all must lead some pretty boring lives!

Janet Jackson's Boob

janets boobs was the only good part about the superbowl but i still say that it is a stunt 2 sell more records but it was intersting didnt know a boob would be the highlight of the game

Fat Suits

I think Owen is absolutly right.  It’s broke and needs more then a quick, easy semi-fix that would require being added to a hundred times.  Though I guess a semi-fix is better then no fix at all.
These sorts of lawsuits are offensive.
I absolutly love Triticale’s question/point.

Gary Sherman

I’m sure it was a tought vote for Gary, as he is fine with guns.  I think he was looking at a larger picture, than just this deviceive issue.  I too often frown on “Politics”, but it is the way we get things done & in this case I’ll bet he thought the Dems had to stick togather with the Gov & party or many other issues would be run through. Personally it isn’t an issue which I care much about & I was actually for the carry law. I do think & object to him getting a drubbing by the special issue & NRA people on the vote. He has been a fine responsive representative.

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Removed.  We don’t take kindly to pointless insults here.  If you have a point, then make it, but personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Owen

Janet Jackson's Boob

do you think maybe shes trying to take a little heat off her bro for a day or two.or too keep the jackson family rolling in the news hype

Janet Jackson's Boob

The irony of that is awesome. Point taken.

Fat Suits

I would expect Diamond Jim to veto this anyway. Victims and trial lawyers are two of his core constituencies.

If restaurants get sued for feeding the obese, and respond by refusing to serve them, will they then get sued for discrimination?

Sad Days

Yes, I know I’m one day late.

Fat Suits

Hope - the mere fact that so many ridiculous lawsuits get through the courts and sent to a jury tells me that the judges are unwilling to throw out the bad ones.

Honestly, I’ve heard numerous reform suggestions and I’m not sure of the best way to reform the system.  Perhaps a law where if your lawsuit gets thrown out for being frivolous, the lawyer (not the plaintiff) is charged court costs and legal fees for both sides.  And perhaps if a lawyer has 5 cases thrown out for being frivolous withing 5 years, they should be disbarred.  Perhaps appointed judges should face automatic impeachment hearings if an appeals court throws out the case for being frivolous. 

I’m not sure how to fix it, but it’s broken.  We should take a serious look at really fixing it rather than going for the duct tape and bailing wire solution of protecting target industries like the food, alcohol, guns, etc. industries.  Furthermore, there could be undesirable side effects if the laws protecting these industries are poorly written.  They could end up being immune from legitimate lawsuits, which would thwart justice for the suing parties.

Janet Jackson's Boob

1. It’s a breast.  We Americans are scared of the female breast.  Brother Ashcroft can’t even see one on a statue.

2. Illegal?  So was drinking out of a white water fountain for blacks.  That didn’t make it right.  Is this anything like the Janet case--no--just an example that law does not always equal right.

3. Was Kid Rock wearing a flag?  I could be wrong, but I thought it was a piece of clothing sold in a store not an actually flag. 

4. Someone here accused those who were speaking out against the Iraq war of being anti-American.  Hmmmm… I guess some people don’t know what America or a Constitution is.

5.  Isn’t anyone offended more about the lyrics of the song?  I mean, for me, it’s not so much the breast as it is the sexual content of the song that should bother you.

Janet Jackson's Boob

been trying to think of all the gangsta rappers out there, still can’t do it. gangsta rap consisted of guys like nwa saying “f” the police and talking about what gangs they are going to kill and cop killa, nowadays the top rappers rap about girls, dancing, and stuff like that, unless of course you are talking about eminem which is on another level and i don’t know what to clasify his style as, but whatever, rap videos are worse than that half time show. I think most of the violent movies kids watch are worse though, and the games they play. Justin Timberlake has talent, he can blow, i mean we all have our differences in opinion but i don’t think JT would have the success he has had if he weren’t talented. good to see we have all these spell checkers and teachers on this forum.

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P.S. k2aggie07: rediculous is spelled “ridiculous” with an “i” not an “e” as you have done in all of your posts with that word....

Fat Suits

I dont think its a question of ability. The courts have every power to throw out ludicrous lawsuits. However, there is no precendent for them using these powers. Any judge with a nickel’s worth of common sense can tell the difference between people looking for a free ride at the expense of the consumer base and people with legitimate grievances. For any number of reasons they choose to indulge these idiots.

Until you can somehow find a way to instill reason into the minds of those that make these decisions, it seems to me that this is the only way to prevent frivolous lawsuits from actually getting past wrong-headed and corrupt judges.

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"The real offense here is the spelling and grammer...”

Ironic?

But, seriously, I think it is rediculous to cite specific laws. I sincerely doubt that anyone save lawyers or law makers can correctly identify and cite laws, other than traffic violations perhaps. Specific identification can only come from the actual bill that was passed, and I don’t have that information on hand.

I was under the impression that the display at half time violated FCC nudity rules. The main reason for this assumption on my part is the fact that there was talk of fining CBS or MTV. I’m not sure why the FCC would fine someone who didn’t break a regulation.

If, indeed, they didn’t break the law, then I have no objection, besides my own opinion that it was tacky. But thats fine, people can be tacky. It doesn’t really elicit a response from me besides a shake of the head. 

I don’t care what law (if any) they violated, be it language, nudity, or any other of the plethora of regulations enforced by the FCC on the part of the people of the US. The nudity isn’t important; obeying the law is.

P.S. Verm: Grammar has two ‘a’s.

Fat Suits

What is it about the court system that you believe renders it unable to differentiate between valid and invalid suits?

Janet Jackson's Boob

The real offense here is the spelling and grammer…

Fat Suits

Maybe it is a copout, Owen, but if it’s reached the point where our courts are unable to distinguish between frivolous lawsuits and non-, I’d just as soon the legislature did what they could to curb the excesses. God, I love checks and balances! Whoever thought that up should get a raise.

Bracelets for Sex

ya all need to shut the fuck ^.All you old people wore them in the 80’s no meaning then no meaning now so all you fucked ^ ‘rents who think its not kool 4 your kids to wear them get over it every one has to get fucked sometime in their worthless live why not make it with the hole “SNAP” game.(its actually really fun) they really have no meanings!GET OVER IT DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Janet Jackson's Boob

No one has metioned the streaker right before the second half kick-off

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To walter
a few kids probably seen janets tits but they see man boobs every time they see a fat man at the pool. Just in case your wondering god brings us to the world naked and you see your moms tit’s at the get go so no one will be scared for life. and if the are they should quit being a bunch up of uptight a-holes.

Janet Jackson's Boob

Believe it or not I’m not offended at all Because I’ve seen tits before. You people should get real and quit freaking out over little petty crap.