Woman Defends Herself and Kids
Six shots. Five hits in the face and neck. He lived. Thank goodness she still got away. And thank goodness there was only one bad guy. Perhaps next time she’ll have a self-defense weapon with a larger capacity just in case.
The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.
But the man eventually found the family.
“The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,” Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh.
The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.
“She’s standing over him, and she realizes she’s fired all six rounds. And the guy’s telling her to quit shooting,” Chapman said.
The woman ran to a neighbor’s home with her children. The intruder attempted to flee in his car but crashed into a wooded area and collapsed in a nearby driveway, Chapman said.
Deputies arrested 32-year-old Atlanta resident Paul Slater in connection with the crime. Chapman said they found him on the ground saying, “Help me. I’m close to dying.” Slater was taken to Gwinnett Medical Center for treatment. Chapman said Slater was shot in the face and neck.
Nothing like politicizing a shooting, right Owen? Maybe she should have had an assault rifle to defend herself with.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 06, 2013 at 2122 hrs
Nah… not the best choice in close quarters like that.
Posted by Owen on January 06, 2013 at 2134 hrs
It’s all in shot placement. PRACTISE
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 06, 2013 at 2245 hrs
I can only imagine the trauma of this woman and her children but the alternative is of being unarmed well ... . On the same page as this article, are 3 other articles, employee found shot to death, slain woman warned judge about ex-husband and woman shot by home invaders.
I keep reading about robberies, burglaries foiled by someone with the ability to protect themselves. I must wonder what the total numbers are and the comparison between carry and non-carry states.
Just yesterday an off-duty Milwaukee cop shot someone trying to rob him. I wish the media would publicize these occurrences more.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 0614 hrs
Bill,
Absolutely.
VA,
So you support leaving this women and her kid defenseless in situations like this?
This incident demonstrates the only effective gun control: using both hands.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 0808 hrs
Nothing has a pucker factor like the sound of a 12 guage round being chambered in the dark. 38 is a bit small for home defense and with that sort of time the shotgun would have taken one round to stop the threat. VAP, what we have here is a shooting of a bad man by a woman defending her kids. This is a good thing. We need to have more of these so that we have less of the types of articles as the ones Bill referenced.
Posted by fishaddict on January 07, 2013 at 0850 hrs
Well she got one rule right:
“Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.”
She overlooked this one:
“Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun, the caliber of which does not start with a “.4.”
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 0908 hrs
Adam White is an asshole.
Posted by Badger on January 07, 2013 at 0938 hrs
Shot-placement was ideal.
Not enough rounds in the gun.
Posted by dad29 on January 07, 2013 at 1010 hrs
Nothing like politicizing a shooting, right Owen? Maybe she should have had an assault rifle to defend herself with.
Did a lib really say that? Heh, another lib example of MSM sponsored circular reasoning.
There is no voter fraud. See, no convictions. Ignore the fact that police are prohibited from voting sites except as voters, nothing to see there.
The only shootings to be publicized are mass murders because when there is a defensive gun involved, there are rarely(never?) murders en masse.I think too many libs loved their train sets as children. It goes round and round the same track and the only bad thing is when the train goes off track.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1013 hrs
Wow, three of you need to learn when people are joking. I really don’t give a shit at all about guns, gun control, or the right to bear arms. It’s not going anywhere and it’s in our Constitution, so it shouldn’t go anywhere.
I’m making fun of people who are apparently scared to talk about guns and hide behind the “don’t politicize a shooting” phrase.
And Badger called me an asshole? I feel like I’ve gotten some sort of award. Also, figuring out my name is Adam White:
a) Isn’t hard to do, and
b) Narrows me down to one of what must be 300,000 Adam White’s in the U.S. Good, work, detective.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1055 hrs
I love when people, conservatives and liberals alike, argue with anecdotes. Stories are statistically worthless and emotionally manipulative stuff.
Posted by Recess Supervisor on January 07, 2013 at 1157 hrs
Stories are statistically worthless and emotionally manipulative stuff
So doesn’t that make you a robot, void of humanity?
Life is about persuasion and personal stories (and, gasp, emotion) make persuasion more effective.
This story is an effective one. (Very convincing on why women should have guns.)
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1220 hrs
No Kevin, it’s makes me rational.
Good policy making isn’t about stories. It’s about identifying public concerns as expressed through statistically measured means (so no, calls to a legislator’s office don’t count) and then finding an agreeable path forward based on valid data and peer-reviewed research.
Where you get crappy policy and needless legislation is when politicians start busting out photographs and stories like this.
Again, I’m not saying it isn’t effective. I’m saying it shouldn’t be effective.
Posted by Recess Supervisor on January 07, 2013 at 1227 hrs
Ii have my opinion on gun control. But the votes aren’t there to make any changes and that is not going to change until the next census and redistricting. So I don’t think there’s a point to getting into this with anyone.
What I’m going to do instead is ask people to stop responding to Kevin’s endless trolling. Because its endless. And there is no point. Responding just encourages him.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1240 hrs
While it is nice to see some folks unafraid to use their own identity instead of hiding behind a nom de plume, I think the purpose of blogging is to address issues not personal insults.
Barack and the boys in Washington will most likely use the EPA to ban lead in ammunition to circumvent our Constitution, assuming you can have your guns but no bullets. Maybe you could buy them on the black market (sorry, no offense intended to our Commander in Chief). Of course, if you check out Chicago; 508 murders and very strict gun laws, it is a no brainer to think gangs and drug importers will not suffer from a shortage of ammunition, only law abiding citizens.
From the 100+ Executive Orders and growing list of new Czars to the pork laden Fiscal Cliff and Sandy Relief bills, not many in DC appear to have much interest in that pesky Oath of Office thing, laws or the best interests of the rest of us. Personally, what the majority of Americans put into office, scares hell out of me.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1323 hrs
Again, I’m not saying it isn’t effective. I’m saying it shouldn’t be effective
Of course it shouldn’t…but that is not reality.
Politics is passion.
One great story with emotion is worth 1000 pages of statistics.
(Also, may not hurt to read the book “How to lie with statistics” by Edward Huff. 99% of all statistics are misused anyway.)
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1329 hrs
RS this story is not anecdote…it is a cog in the statistical machine. The trouble is that the powers that be ignore these numbers and focus on the crime and suicide aspect numbers. How many crimes are thwarted by the mere brandishing of a weapon? Can’t say off the top of your head can you? The reason for that is that it would not fit the profile of “guns serve no other purpose but to destroy lives and society. The stats are out there but to find them will take some digging. The number of crimes thwarted by a legal and valid use of weapons is higher by far than what is advertised. I use that term purposefully because each and every wepon crime is used to advertise the danger of the object. You rarely, if ever, see coverage or them being used in a positive manner. What do you suppose would be the attitude toward cars if the only exposure we had was in media telling us how many died in a crash. SUVs came to mind. It was not the driver that crashed into a bus full of children, rather the SUV went out of control and killed or injured 20 kids.
Posted by fishaddict on January 07, 2013 at 1335 hrs
RS - so then you would conclude the same thing about Newtown & Columbine, right? Or is that somehow different and an acceptable use of an anecdote to drive policy?
Personally, I’m a fan of a waiting period for legislation after any emotionally charged event. Kneejerk reaction gives us poor public policy and yet it seems that a large portion of our laws - at least the ones that are covered by mainstream media - are driven by outrage of one thing or another.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 1648 hrs
Locke,
If we had moved quickly after the financial meltdown and not allowed lobbyists the time to play off legislators, we might have gotten real bank legislation rather than the crap we got.
I can’t see how delay helps, it just lets the Rats reinforce the nests.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 07, 2013 at 2241 hrs
No Locke, you’re conflating two separate issues. I understand how anecdote can spur action. The point is that the decisions made as a result of that attention should still be data driven.
For instance, it would make no sense to take Newtown and then mandate changes to school security based upon what specifically happened there - schools have different layouts, staffing levels, on and on.
My initial point, which I thought was perfectly clear, is that both sides dribble these stories out here like individually they mean something. They don’t. So this story, all the second amendment people will get all wound up and talk about it proves something by itself. It doesn’t. And the next time some kid blows his head off in his own home because he found daddy’s gun, that will be tragic but also meaningless by itself in terms of a scientific discussion about behaviors and the effects of those behaviors on outcomes with which we as a society may concern ourselves.
It’s the same flawed logic by which the responsible gun owner says “I take care of my guns so therefore the proliferation of guns is not the problem.” That’s not true. It isn’t to say that guns are or aren’t the problem, but rather the basis for that person’s assertion - that is, personal experience - is inherently flawed.
Posted by Recess Supervisor on January 07, 2013 at 2245 hrs
Wow. I agree with Maley. He must be getting wiser in his later years.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 08, 2013 at 0810 hrs
Wait, wasn’t she successful in defending herself with the six inexpertly delivered shots? What else is needed? Does success only come if she can blow a whole completely through the f*cker? Why would his death at the hands of a larger magazine or a higher caliber weapon improve the outcome?
Does nobody recognize the tragedy associated with taking a life, even if it is in self defense, and defense of one’s family? Killing someone else has a devastating effect on a human being regardless of the circumstances. Do we all recognize that?!?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 08, 2013 at 0945 hrs
I don’t think Mark’s example is one of heartstring emotion. I don’t think emotionally charged bank laws would be a great idea either. Further, the meltdown was not exactly anecdotal. It was by most accounts pretty widespread among the big banks. Besides, what he is really saying is that we should base how fast we make laws on how much money the opposition can put forward quickly. In the case of bank reform, I think the faster you pull the trigger the more likely it is that only bank money will have a chance to influence politicians.
Wow, three of you need to learn when people are joking. I really don’t give a shit at all about guns, gun control, or the right to bear arms.
Heh, one of you needs to learn what a joke is. Your ‘joke’ follows a lot of lib serious thinking. So, does that mean the butt of your joke are liberals that fear guns? Okay, then that is funny.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on January 08, 2013 at 1000 hrs
Dude forget VA Politico…who knows what that dirtbag would have done to that poor woman and her kids had she not had the means to defend herself. This is a perfect example of why we shouldn’t be disarming our citizens. People who do harm to other will always find the means to, so we would basically just be disarming the innocent. Yea, I don’t agree with that. Great article Owen, thanks for posting.
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