Wisconsin to Limit Phosphorus?
I’m going to stock up on cleaning supplies to sell at the Farmer’s Market.
Congratulations Racine. You are proudly represented by Assemblyman Mason and Senator Lehman who are both cosponsors of AB 281.
What’s that you ask?
AB 281 will regulate the amount of phosphorus in your cleaning materials.
Remember the story out of Washington State earlier this year? It focused on how Washington residents were crossing state lines to buy massive amounts of cleaning supplies from other states without these ridiculous restrictions. Cleaning products that actually worked.
I’m sure retailers in Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota will lobby the Wisconsin legislature heavily for the passage of this idiocy, it will be great for their business!
Let’s go back to banning “Oleo” or margarine as it is now called. My dad made lots of money buying cigs in Indiana and Oleo in IL on his way home from business trips to Michigan.
Who can stop this idiocy?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1258 hrs
Please list the reasons you are in favor of fertilizing the algae and seaweed in our lakes. Are you in favor of more closed beaches?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1338 hrs
Please tell me why you want to waste water and chemicals trying to wash a garment for the third time because the soap won’t work. Please tell me why you want to spread disease by using dirty dishes.
See? Two can play at this game.
Posted by Owen on June 24, 2009 at 1343 hrs
They’ll get my good dish soap when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Which shouldn’t be too hard because dish soap is kinda slippery.
Posted by james wigderson on June 24, 2009 at 1355 hrs
When dish soap is outlawed, only outlaws will have clean dishes.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1404 hrs
Addendum to #5. Soap doesn’t clean dishes, people clean dishes.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1502 hrs
If we are so worried about our water, the why does MMSD dispose of billions of gallons of sewer-waste-water into lake Michigan? Why then do businesses who employ people get fined and over regulated in regards to their waste water? Why does one man who pushed concrete that was all ready in contact with the river water get fired over it?
Good thing my cottage in near Michigan and good thing I have SUV to carry it home in.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1525 hrs
Owen…
You’re welcome to vacation in Door County and enjoy the stink from the rotting Cladophora - all abundantly fed by your precious phosphorus.
Hard to believe that a guy that spends so much time in front of a PC gets that dirty anyway…
Posted by Swamp Gas on June 24, 2009 at 1611 hrs
Another idiotic solution in search of a cause.
When they come up something that works just as well - I’m all for it.
If people were worried about pollution - they’d be more outraged at the BILLION gallons of sewage that MMSD dumped last Friday.
At the rate these 100 years storms are coming to Milwaukee - I’m going to be older than Moses by July.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1633 hrs
I’d say sell your place in Door County and move inland, but with Obama’s stimulus bill in full swing I doubt you’d be able to sell it. I’m sure the libs want you to give up your lake side retreat so they can make into a park.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 1848 hrs
It’s always a hoot to hear people with Up North retreats piss and moan about how AAAWWWWWFUL it is up there.
Posted by dad29 on June 24, 2009 at 2018 hrs
SWEET! This is it! Me and the other boys from work will descend to my basement and start making soap. That’s going to be easier to get past our wives than black market cigarettes or moonshine, which were our original fallback plans. It’s hard to take it to the man doing production chemistry in a legitimate business, and we aim to misbehave.
Posted by Mike Gallo on June 24, 2009 at 2122 hrs
Owen, there are other detergents and methods that will clean dishes and clothing. Your argument doesn’t hold up. The blue-green blooms caused by fertilizing the lakes are apparent even to my four-year old granddaughter.
It’s as if 4000 years of human history without high-phosphorus detergents went for nothing. The incessant whining of, “We can’t do it. It’s too hard,” gets tiresome.
With municipal budgets hard pressed to keep up as it is, why force them to keep beaches cleaned up after a man-made mess? Just think of it as a money problem.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2009 at 2128 hrs
This bill isn’t a big deal at all. It our Governor signs it, very little will change; however, it is symbolically relevant for three reasons.
1. Democrats are quick to offer a bill to clean up our lakes when in reality it will do absolutely nothing and is unopposed because it will profit the detergent industry by giving them a reason to charge more. Dish washing detergent isn’t in any way the culprit connected to phosphorus pollution in our lakes. The fact is that Democrats are too scared to take on the real sources. (Sorry MMSD haters but Agricultural runoff is the source of 90+% of our problems. Please don’t take that statement as an endorsement of heavy regulation on farmers. I’ll apply a Utilitarian calculus to all issues like this before endorsing a solution).
2. Many Democrat solutions actually make real problems worse. Banning dish washing detergent will cause a very small but real number of people to purchase detergent in other states. Banning detergent that actually works before a proper alternative is created will also cause more people to run their dish loads multiple times, and with more detergent. This will put more chemicals into our water system and will cause more individuals to use more water when washing there dishes.
3. Where is the Democrat jobs agenda? The Democrats appear to have time to pass bill after bill like this (that do absolutely nothing) yet they haven’t offered a single bill to create a single job for some poor, unemployed schlub in Boscobel.
Posted by pgwatch on June 24, 2009 at 2344 hrs
I am going to have to build yet another garage…to hold the 10 year supply of dish soap, laundry soap, light bulbs, fertilizer, and ......... that I’m going to be storing.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 25, 2009 at 0134 hrs
With municipal budgets hard pressed to keep up as it is, why force them to keep beaches cleaned up after a man-made mess? Just think of it as a money problem.
Man-made-mess you mean MMSD? Where is your outrage about that?!!!??? No let’s stick to the people again. Tell you what, why don’t we just beat our clothes on a rock to get them clean too. Sheesh!
How come you aren’t out there protesting in front of City Hall for the BILLIONS OF CRAP they dump into the lake in just a couple of days?!
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 25, 2009 at 0651 hrs
It’s as if 4000 years of human history without high-phosphorus detergents went for nothing.
Yeah, well we all know how wonderful human hygiene was throughout history, so I totally see your point. Maybe we should go back to bathing annually, too, because infectious disease is so environmentally friendly!
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 25, 2009 at 0907 hrs
Yes - let’s go back to leprosy and the plague so that people living near the water don’t have to smell the stink.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 25, 2009 at 1405 hrs
How come you aren’t out there protesting in front of City Hall for the BILLIONS OF CRAP they dump into the lake in just a couple of days?!
Wow, this is way out in left field of Crazyville Park. I’d like to see them both stopped, so how does that fit your myopic and self-centered view Kelly?
Yeah, well we all know how wonderful human hygiene was throughout history, so I totally see your point. Maybe we should go back to bathing annually, too, because infectious disease is so environmentally friendly!
So, in a valid attempt to show that clothes and dishes can be cleaned without phosphates, you instead take the road of the idiot, and bring up human ignorance on other housekeeping practices. I’m sure our rise from infectious disease has a lot more to do with understanding of said diseases and basic infrastructure like clean water and sewage handling. Dolt.
Yes - let’s go back to leprosy and the plague so that people living near the water don’t have to smell the stink.
Same to you as Amy P.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 25, 2009 at 1707 hrs
Jason- why do you have such outrage over phosphorus, but I’m not hearing the same level of outrage over sewerage dumps?
See the leftys always have these grand ideas to change things:
Then: Anti-brown bag, so let’s use plastic
Now: Anti-plastic
Then: Anti-tap water, so let’s make bottled water
Now: Anti-bottled water
Then: Bring back the wolves
Now: Possible wolf hunt
Then: Small cars are unsafe
Now: PriusRemember algae is a living thing and you don’t want to kill now do you?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 26, 2009 at 0726 hrs
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