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Van Hollen Charges Five With Felony Vote Fraud

Good for the AG.

Five Wisconsin residents have been charged with criminal counts of voter fraud in the November 2008 general election, state Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen announced today.

Two of those charged - Maria Miles, 36, of Milwaukee, and Kevin Clancy, 26, of Racine - worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), the embattled community organizing group.

“The complaint alleges that Miles and Clancy submitted multiple voter registration applications for the same individuals, and also were part of a scheme in which they and other (special registration deputies)  registered each other to vote multiple times in order to meet voter registration quotas imposed by ACORN,” the Van Hollen release says.

Both were charged with one felony count.

Posted by Owen at 1707 hrs
Law + Politics + Politics - Wisconsin

1. Also charged was a couple - Herbert, 60, and Suzanne Gunka, 54, both of Milwaukee - for allegedly double-voting in November 2008, once absentee and once at the polls.

   Van Hollen can make any claim he wants. I wonder if he’ll get any convictions at all. I am negatively impressed with his charge that a middle-aged couple voted twice, possibly by accident since the registration system is supposed to catch those who have already voted absentee so they (or someone using their name) do not vote again. Van Hollen would be hard pressed to prove that they voted twice unless they foolishly said they were guilty. Even if they did is that really worth 3 1/2 years?

   The felon is probably the easiest one and the one that is most unjust. Every citizen should be allowed to vote. It’s just as bad as when women were not allowed to vote.

   The ACORN folks will be a challenge, too, for a conviction. I hope the trial ends before the November election. There’ weren’t enough details in the article to figure out how real the charge is.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 1851 hrs
   
   
   

2. Setting the ACORN folks aside briefly, shouldn’t our pathetic system of voter registration be responsible for catching double voters?  I suppose with the other three individuals, what matters is intent.  If their double votes were accidental, this is a waste of time.  That’s as much on our shoddy system as it is on them.

   The ACORN people are far more interesting however because the accusation there is voter fraud on a much larger scale.

   Posted by Recess Supervisor on March 08, 2010 at 1950 hrs
   
   
   

3. Voter fraud is a bit like drunk driving…only on a greater scale. For every drunk busted, 200 get away with it. For every case of voter fraud prosecuted, I imagine it’s more like 1000 that get away with it…. maybe more. Given our democrat supported system of wild west anything goes voting, it’s nearly impossible to actually catch anyone… and it’s usually only the truly foolish ones who get caught. Heck, Iraqs purple finger system is more secure than ours at this point.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2007 hrs
   
   
   

4. The best part about this is that the entire issue could be put to rest with an accurate and updated voter database and a requirement to show ID at the polls.

   What are there?  4, 5 or maybe “500” people that couldn’t produce any sort of ID?  Shouldn’t have any real impact on things.  Right?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2009 hrs
   
   
   

5. If I recall correctly, the reason that the bills were vetoed was that the GOP wanted to charge people for the voter cards. Why isn’t it important enough to use taxpayer money?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2108 hrs
   
   
   

6. Nice try Free Lunch.  The reason the bills kept getting vetoed was because Doyle and the Dems knew they needed every bit of help they could get.  Real or fraudulent.  The ID cards would have been provided for free.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2230 hrs
   
   
   

7. Yup, they were going to issue free ID cards so as not to inconvenience anybody.  Still wasn’t good enough for a governor who relies on fraud to get elected.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2248 hrs
   
   
   

8. I’m still waiting for my free ID so I can buy Sudafed at the drugstore.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2254 hrs
   
   
   

9. Steve,

   If it was free, I don’t have any problem with a registration card. It’s not as if there’s a real voting fraud problem here, anyway. Look at all the effort Republicans have put into this over the past years and Van Hollen’s recent five the best they can do.

   Terry,

   Be serious. Voting fraud did not get Doyle elected. You know that.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2301 hrs
   
   
   

10. If I recall correctly, the reason that the bills were vetoed was that the GOP wanted to charge people for the voter cards. Why isn’t it important enough to use taxpayer money?

    Good lord. Just randomly making crap up now?

    Even if it were the responsibility of citizens to get their own ID, so what… How do you feel about the fact that the poor and elderly are unable to buy cold medicine right now?

    State Sen. Joe Liebham is planning on introducing a state Constitutional amendment that would require a photo ID to vote, and it does not include a provision for the poor and elderly to get free ID’s… I hope it passes. If you are unable to identify yourself as a citizen of the United States, Wisconsin, or a resident of a voting district, you should be denied a vote.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2010 at 2302 hrs
    
    
    

11. If anyone ever needs proof that Democrats don’t give a rat’s tush about vote fraud - several years back (memory fails who it was), a bill was introduced that would allow the individual voter to decide if they want to be required to produce an ID to vote. That is, if the voter wanted, their own voter registration would include a notice that an ID would need to be provided for you to cast a ballot. If you did not want to be required to produce an ID, your registration would not include that notice and you could vote without producing an ID. Guess who didn’t like this? Democrats. Why? Because people would realize how simple it is to protect your own ballot by producing an ID. It would further restrict the ability to commit vote fraud.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 09, 2010 at 0857 hrs
    
    
    

12. Free Lunch,  The GOP did not want to charge people for ID’s.  You know that.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 09, 2010 at 0941 hrs
    
    
    

13. TerryN -

    I understood that the proposals relied on drivers licenses or state issued identification and that people who had neither and could not afford the ID would not have to pay. I was not aware of any proposal that created a new voter ID that was free to all and required of all.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 09, 2010 at 1046 hrs
    
    
    

14. Free Lunch, I am not sure why every citizen should be allowed to vote. I have no issue with felons not being allowed to have firearms, sexual predators are not allowed near schools. All are rights but we give up certain rights when we commit certain acts or join certain organizations. I believe that the DI or state ID would fall under the national id criteria. The money was set aside in increased fees and taxes a number of years ago and then raided. Then when the deadline approached, doyle claimed we did not have the money. I am at the point where I say get it done. If it costs money and you don’t have it then get rid of cable for a month. If voting is more important than your tv then you will find a way. We the taxpayer have footed the burden and paid the bill for this and the dems have screwed us at every turn. It is time to make it happen. Remember that soon the state of WI DI and ID will not be valid for many things outside of local issues like plane/train travel and out of state id due to the dems raiding our funds.

    Posted by fishaddict on March 09, 2010 at 1316 hrs
    
    
    

15. I am at the point where I say get it done. If it costs money and you don’t have it then get rid of cable for a month. If voting is more important than your tv then you will find a way. We the taxpayer have footed the burden and paid the bill for this and the dems have screwed us at every turn.

    Posted by painters and decorators manchester on March 10, 2010 at 0022 hrs
    
    
    

16. For every case of voter fraud prosecuted, I imagine it’s more like 1000 that get away with it…. maybe more.

    Actually, the most recent made up statistics indicate that for every case of voter fraud prosecuted, 97 gajillion get away with it - and they all vote democratic.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 10, 2010 at 1237 hrs
    
    
    

17. Actually, the most recent made up statistics indicate that for every case of voter fraud prosecuted, 97 gajillion get away with it - and they all vote democratic.

    It is pretty well documented, dj, that not EVERY person who commits a crime is arrested and prosecuted for it…. Is the ratio 10:1, 100:1, or 1000:1? No way to be sure, because nobody is ever going to admit to committing vote fraud. I understand your desire to try and discredit the previous statement, but while maybe not statistically accurate, it is well within the margin of error deemed acceptable by your side with regard to global warming.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 10, 2010 at 1256 hrs
    
    
    

18. I hope the trial ends before the November election. There’ weren’t enough details in the article to figure out how real the charge is.

    Posted by Victoria Real Estate on March 11, 2010 at 0150 hrs
    
    
    

19. I understand your desire to try and discredit the previous statement, but while maybe not statistically accurate, it is well within the margin of error deemed acceptable by your side with regard to global warming.

    Posted by kitchen range hood on March 14, 2010 at 0329 hrs
    
    
    

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