Toronto Trip
I spent the last few days in Toronto. It was my first time to the Canada, so it was fun. Unfortunately, my return trip included a very long line at customs, hours on the Tarmac, and a sprint through O’Hare. But I can’t complain too much after seeing the people hanging out on cots at O’Hare and sleeping chairs in Mitchell.
I’ve been traveling every week for the past six weeks or so. I don’t have another scheduled trip for a few weeks. Back to our regularly scheduled blogging…
I was in Toronto a couple of years ago. Did you take any time to chat up locals about their health care system? I did. Everyone from conference attendees, local merchants and even a cab driver. Not a scientific study, to be sure, but it certainly was interesting.
Posted by scott on July 25, 2010 at 1439 hrs
I’ve been to Toronto. It’s like being in a foreign country like Europe almost. You wouldn’t think you’re in North America.
The place is littered with No-turn-on-red light intersections and “bike boxes”. Snotty spandex wearing bicylcists can get a head start on turns and have their own turn lane!
Think about it: No turn on red means more money for the Arabs.
Instead of being a friendly extention of America, it is hostile to drivers. Who pays for the upkeep of these roads? Not these bicyclists.
If you want to see the real Canada, visit Alberta, where they have respect for North Ameican values.
Want to go to Church? That’s easy, if you want to attend an outfit called the Church of Canada, a government run institution.
Wake up America! Is this what you want our beloved God-fearing Constitutional Republic to turn into? The only way to stop this nonsense is to go full speed ahead with plans for annexation. which have been shelved for years.
Cars were invented for a reason. First and foremost, they add to our freedoms, which is what our country is all about.
The cold weather must freeze the Canadian brain.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 25, 2010 at 1630 hrs
That may be the most unintentionally hilarious comment I’ve ever read here.
Posted by scott on July 25, 2010 at 1633 hrs
I’ve been in Toronto for business three times and once as a tourist. I’ve had a blast every trip. The Marche is a must do for dinner.
The big blackout of 2003 occurred during the tourist trip. Spent the night on the pool deck of the Raddison Harbourfront drinking free beer and seeing the stars like only my ancestors could have seen them.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 25, 2010 at 1828 hrs
I was in Toronto a couple of years ago. Did you take any time to chat up locals about their health care system? I did. Everyone from conference attendees, local merchants and even a cab driver. Not a scientific study…..
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 25, 2010 at 2129 hrs
“Soaring costs.” That’s funny. I’d take their costs in a minute.
I’m aware it’s not a scientific study. That’s why I said it. Of course there are such studies to tell you what Canadians think of their health care system. The problem is, you just never listen. So I thought perhaps if you went there and talked to people… but whatever. For you guys this is all about ideology over facts anyway.
Posted by scott on July 25, 2010 at 2226 hrs
Did you take any time to chat up locals about their health care system? I did. Everyone from conference attendees, local merchants and even a cab driver.
Don’t try that in the UK. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/7908742/Axe-falls-on-NHS-services.html
An investigation by The Sunday Telegraph has uncovered widespread cuts planned across the NHS, many of which have already been agreed by senior health service officials. They include:
Laundry list of cuts and quotas
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0613 hrs
For a second there I thought you were going to cite a poll indicating that Brits are unhappy with their health care system.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0809 hrs
I love how scott denies the fact Canada costs are soaring. In the same breath says that to conservatives it is about ideology and not facts.
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I have many similar stories. I’ve been to both Spain and Ireland in the last couple years. The Spanish and Irish did love their health care before their countries went bankrupt… now, not so much…
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It all goes back to your government study about VA health care… when people get something for free they can overlook quality… it’s called tradeoffs.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0823 hrs
How do you figure you’re going to scare me—or anyone—about the costs of health care in other countries when every single one of those countries pays less for health care than we do?
Again with the “government study” bullshit, too. You know what the rest of us call these nefarious, suspect “government studies” done by universities? They call them “science.”
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0829 hrs
How do you figure you’re going to scare me—or anyone—about the costs of health care in other countries when every single one of those countries pays less for health care than we do?
This is a lie. My family plan, for great insurance, costs $4000 per person. And the only insurance plans that are better are the platinum teacher/gov’t plans…
Again with the “government study” bullshit, too. You know what the rest of us call these nefarious, suspect “government studies” done by universities? They call them “science.”
Study done with gov’t funds by gov’t employees at a gov’t institution is a gov’t study. Not to mention Ann Arbor may be the only city in the Midwest more liberal than Madison.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0837 hrs
This is a lie.
it’s the stone cold truth. You want to go a few rounds with me on this? I’m game.
Study done with gov’t funds by gov’t employees at a gov’t institution is a gov’t study.
And in one fell swoop you have discredited all science done by research universities. Which leaves us only with science done by tobacco, drug and energy companies, I guess. One can easily see how their funding makes them ever so much more reliable and trustworthy.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0845 hrs
it’s the stone cold truth. You want to go a few rounds with me on this? I’m game.
Government employee health care plans horribly skew health insurance costs in this nation. Do you disagree?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0929 hrs
I said the other countries in question—the UK and Canada—pay a lot less for health care than we do here in the US. You said that’s a lie. Back it up.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0931 hrs
So you agree.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0934 hrs
Don’t weasel out of it. You said it’s a lie. Prove it.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0936 hrs
My argument doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker. Let me know when you are ready to answermy question and have a serious discussion.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 0940 hrs
I’m not asking you to fit anything on anything. Take as much room as you want. I said the other countries in question—the UK and Canada—pay a lot less for health care than we do here in the US. You said that’s a lie. Enlighten us.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 0953 hrs
First of all, I’m calling you out as a bald-face liar. Do you have the ability to have an honest discussion?
Your original statement was:
How do you figure you’re going to scare me—or anyone—about the costs of health care in other countries when every single one of those countries pays less for health care than we do?
My response was simple. That’s a lie. I believe when you wrote ‘we’ you includede ‘me’. My family plan is less per person than any of those socialist plans per capita.
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But I do enjoy your attempt to change the argument going from:
‘we do’ to ‘we do here in the U.S.’
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what you write has a meaning… even if you try to change it.
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Since you know where I’m going with this and refuse to answer my question, I’ll just give the punchline…
My contention is that U.S. private sector health care is the model of efficiency for the world, and that health care costs in the U.S. are heavily skewed by gov’t plans (WB teacher family plan is, I believe, double my plan…)...
I’d ask you to debate this Scott, but I’m certain you won’t answer my future questions since the entire discussion doesn’t fit on a bumper sticker…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 1009 hrs
Yeah, because everyone naturally assumes that when I’m making a comparison to other countries I don’t mean to compare them to, you know, our country. What one can naturally assume is that when I say “we” i mean you and me personally. That makes total sense. If you’re dumb.
U.S. private sector health care is the model of efficiency for the world
Why has it done such a poor job at keeping costs low? Why do private insurance companies have such a low “medical loss rate”?
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 1017 hrs
Oh, so when you wrote ‘we’ you meant ‘we, communilly’ not ‘we, each and every one of us’. Well, you hero Karl Marx said what is gravy for the gander is gravy for the goose.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 1026 hrs
I always compare entire countries to individuals. ALLL the time.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 1028 hrs
Once again, out of context. I once again assert you are not capable of having an honest discussion.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 1048 hrs
Dude, you lose. I said Canada and the UK pay less for health care than we do, you said I was a liar. You were wrong and I was right. Period. This whole “when you said ‘we’ I thought you meant me personally” bullshit is so weak that I’m actually embarrassed on your behalf. Drop it. Move on. Find something else to be crazy about. This one’s over.
Posted by scott on July 26, 2010 at 1050 hrs
I said Canada and the UK pay less for health care than we do…
I say again. This is a lie. You can slice it any way you want, my health care plan is significantly less cost than (worse) health care in UK or Canada. Even if I were to max my out-of-pocket, I’d still be WAY, WAY ahead…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on July 26, 2010 at 1104 hrs
One of my friend is living in Toronto and I have never visited Toronto.Perhaps I will go there in next vacation as she always says that it is a great place for traveling.It it good to know about your trip to Canada.
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