Taylor Got Skills
Heh.
“One candidate likes to throw a lot of mud and talks a lot like a partisan lawmaker, without giving a whole lot of concrete answers,” Walker said.
While Milwaukee County showed a surplus last year and enjoyed a stable bond rating under his watch, the state of Wisconsin while Taylor has served on the Joint Finance Committee faces a $650 million deficit, he said.
Taylor said her criticism was only “telling you what is real. I’m the only one who comes to the table with skills,” she said. “The present county executive doesn’t finish what he starts. He didn’t finish college, he never ran a business,” Taylor said. “And frankly, I don’t think he wants to finish a second term as the county executive.”
And yet… I still don’t hear actual proposals from Taylor for Milwaukee County.
And yet… I still don’t hear actual proposals from Taylor for Milwaukee County.
Then get the beans out of your ears.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 05, 2008 at 2337 hrs
Yep - lots of proposals. Every single one of them includes the words “raise taxes”.
Ask Michigan how thats working for them….
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 05, 2008 at 2350 hrs
seriously, do any of her proposals not involve raising taxes?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 0027 hrs
And yet… I still don’t hear actual proposals from Taylor for Milwaukee County.
Yes…they all involve raising taxes extraordinarily. I guess that’s something.
Funny how she criticizes Walker for “not finishing college” but doesn’t seem to care that an alarming number of kids (mostly black) never even finish high school in the cesspool known as MPS…
Posted by Amy P. on March 06, 2008 at 0743 hrs
The conservative notion that there is a lot of fat in government budgets and all you have to do is hold down the taxes to sweat it out is getting a good trashing in Milwaukee county.
Or is it the parks system, the transit system and the rest of Milwaukee’s assets that are getting a good thrashing.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 0817 hrs
More of the usual fear and smear from the right. Their only news source, Charlie Sykes and the voices in their heads.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 0834 hrs
and the voices in their heads.
capper:
If it wasn’t for the voices in our heads you’d be out of a job
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on March 06, 2008 at 0853 hrs
I came back to apologize of the “voices in the head” comment. That was rude and inappropriate. I am sorry.
But I urge people to actually look into the truth of the matter instead of taking the pap that is fed to us by one side or the other.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 0856 hrs
OK capper -
Couple of questions - Are you voting for Lena because of what she brings to the table - or are you voting for Lena because she in NOT Scott Walker?
Are you willing to continue to make Milwaukee a Tax Hell island that working people escape so that the county unions can have overpaid underworked membership?
Are you willing to continue to make Milwaukee a Tax Hell island so that a few riders of buses don’t have to walk the extra 4 blocks to get a bus?
If democrats and liberals are the end all be all of big cities, then please explain to correlation to crime in cities and what party runs them
Posted by Clint on March 06, 2008 at 0922 hrs
Sorry - this is the correct link
Posted by Clint on March 06, 2008 at 0923 hrs
On the theme of finishing what one starts, how many complete terms did Lena Taylor serve in the State Assembly? And to date, how many complete terms has she served in the State Senate? Turns out Lena is 0 for 2.
As far as not finishing college, I sometimes wish I had done the same as Scott Walker. He’s done well for himself, he is highly respected, and he does a great job in the political realm. A strong-willed individual with a good head on his shoulders should not let a little thing like college hold him back from being wildly successful. That’s not to say that you can’t be wildly successful if you get your diploma, but it’s not so hard to believe that much better things can and do come along than college. And college isn’t going anywhere. You can always go back and finish up later.
Posted by Josh Schroeder on March 06, 2008 at 0936 hrs
Taylor’s continued cheap shot at Walker that he didn’t finish college just shows she can’t win on the issues.
I also think it’s a slap at high school and college age kids, telling them that they can’t amount to anything if they don’t get a degree. (did you hear, Taylor has a law degree! A lot of good that did her) For a community in which kids barely finish high school - if they are lucky…it is not a great message for a “community leader” to be giving.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 1012 hrs
Keith brings up an interesting point about conservatives thinking there is a lot of fat in a government budget.
Can anyone tell me why the county is running a fish farm?
That money could go to the parks, bus system or heaven forbid - back to the taxpayers.
And - please check out the bus fares in Chicago. I think you will find that they are a lot higher than Milwaukee. I don’t know of any studies - but it would be interesting to compare Milwaukee’s bus fare with the top 20 cities in the country.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 1100 hrs
Bus fares in Milwaukee are the same as in Chicago. $2. (However, if you get a “Chicago Card” it’s $1.75)
Weekly passes are a bit cheaper in Milwaukee.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 1153 hrs
Thanks for asking about the fish farm—http://www.seafood-norway.com/showAtomic.asp?c=3263.
Totally cutting this would save a whopping $330M.
Turns out there are a lot of good ideas behind this, but the tax cut cry babies don’t want ideas.
Really you didn’t give us any ideas of fat to render from the county budget.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 1201 hrs
Ok Keith keep the farm and the 330k it takes to run it. But instead of the food going to the poor, how about we use the food to feed the prisoners. How much money would that save??
And last time I checked 330k was a lot of money. It would take me 10+ years to earn that much. (depending on the taxes)
Posted by Clint on March 06, 2008 at 1221 hrs
As the article talks about, the farm provides more than just food.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 1412 hrs
Not knowing all the facts and specifics, I can’t help but assume that the fish farm, if there really is a need for it, could be privately owned and operated.
All the benefits of the fish farm, plus payroll comes from profits, not tax dollars, and instead of an item on the budget, tax revenues are collected. Turning the farm over to the private sector would not only save taxpayers $330,000,000 but it would generate tax dollars, that is, if there actually is a need for the farm in the first place.
With a few certain exceptions, there is no need for government to do what the private sector can.
Posted by Josh Schroeder on March 06, 2008 at 1458 hrs
I believe your facts on the Chicago bus fares are inaccurate. You are looking at 2006 data. http://www.transitchicago.com/news/motion/board/20071104faretable.pdf
Shows that bus fares are now $2.50 and will be going up.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 2000 hrs
Wow Bill, thanks. $2.50 / ride versus $2.00 / ride… that proves “they are a lot higher than Milwaukee”, especially since they went up in the past two years.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 2106 hrs
Even with Walker “holding the line” on taxes (which he hasn’t), people are leaving in droves from Milwaukee County. California, New York and other places that have been described as “tax hells” are among the most populated cities on Earth. So Clint is out.
Walker quit school in his sophomore year, because he was so embarassed by losing by a landslide when he ran for president of the student body. He lost to a write-in candidate named Jack Quigley. Not an exemplar of maturity.
The rest of his purely professional politician career came from handlers, not his own skills. His incompetence shows, and he needs to be replaced.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 06, 2008 at 2211 hrs
I guess I would call 25% higher - a lot higher and imagine the howls that would go out if Walker proposed a 50 cent increase.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 0727 hrs
sticks and stones, capper, sticks and stones. You use the same arguement about GW Bush and he beat the crap out of the Dems. Walker beats the crap out the Dem’s in their own back yard. I guess that says something about the Democrats intelligence in Milwaukee County doesn’t it, then.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 0822 hrs
Capper, you are such a bitter old queen. And a liar. Walker is only short something like 16 credits.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 0922 hrs
The rest of his purely professional politician career came from handlers, not his own skills. His incompetence shows, and he needs to be replaced.
And the same cannot be said of any other politician, like Hillary, or Obama, McCain or Bush for that matter? It would be interesting to find out just how much of the crap that a politician spews his actually his/her feelings on a subject, as opposed to something the handlers want them to say.
I quit school when I turned 18, to start a business that I have been successful at, does that make me a total failure? -In cappers mind yes it does- but how about to the rest of you?
A college education does not in my opinion make one person better than another, and really should play no role when it comes to judging how good or bad a person will be as a politician, or in life for that matter.
This whole hub bub just makes Lena Taylor look desperate.
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on March 07, 2008 at 0953 hrs
I guess I would call 25% higher - a lot higher and imagine the howls that would go out if Walker proposed a 50 cent increase.
I know you would, you just did. .50 more per ride, or 25% is nto what I call “A LOT HIGHER”. It doesn’t mean that you’re right. I disagree with you, and instead say it’s “A little higher”. See the trouble that is caused when stated in generic terms like “LOT, LITTLE”, etc. Those are relative terms and have no meaning in a discussion like this.
I’m sure there would be unending caterwauling if Milwaukee busing rates went up 25%. There would be no stopping people like Scott from telling us that we’re disenfranchising voters, because they might use the bus to get to a voting center.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 1111 hrs
Capper,
I am quite sure the crickets will be deafening once again after I say this, but you want fat? Let all Government contracts go to the lowest bidder, not lowest union bidder. Rein back retirement and health benefits of all public employees to the median coverage offered by jobs of similar salary. (You want cheaper healthcare? Make the lawmakers feel the pinch.). Give merit raises and no tenure to all public workers. Disband the other 4 agencies that overlap, confuse and obstruct the DOT and all the other extraneous departments. They are inefficient enough, we don’t need the other agencies to obstruct them further. The ‘fat’ is generally not a ‘program’ it is all the appointed bureaucratic jobs that go with it, watch over it, redesign it, and study it whether it worked in the first place or not.In fact, with all the budget/program cuts you always hear about, why is it we never hear about all the unemployment they cause? Could it be that tenure finds them another job?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 1227 hrs
Um, Tuerq,
On what do you base your idea about contracts going to “union bidders”?
Also, the County’s ability to trim fringe benefits is limited. They can offer whatever they want, but if they lose in arbitration (which they usually do), it doesn’t do much good.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 1341 hrs
ATV, I do know that the fat of which I speak is not going to get changed by either of the current parties, but last I heard all roads are built with union people(50+ an hour to hold a slow sign), every time my best friend (a mason) built or assisted in building any building for the State he got paid ‘union wages’. As of 5+ years ago he was making a respectable 26.50 an hour with 18 years of experience. The private construction company he works for was hired to help on a series of DNR shelters. He was paid 57.85 an hour because it was union contract and he got paid what a mason of his experience would get paid.
Maybe I wrote it wrong, but I mean not just that, but teacher’s unions, Firemen unions… any union for a publicly paid job. When we were talking about the school referendum for West Bend, I remember talking to Matt on that. He said they would not be allowed to bid on that, it was a union job. They could be subcontracted out by a union contractor, but they could not bid for and get that job. He said specifically it was too bad too because they could have, conservatively, halved that bid.
I know trimming salaries/benefits/retirement is likely a pipe dream as long as the governing bodies get to manipulate their compensations, but capper asked. I think that is a major crux of disagreement between liberals and conservatives(NOT politicians) of today. Liberals see all the money going in to bureaucracy as the price of doing things through a Governmental body, conservatives see the overflow of people in the Government as an unnecessary evil.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 07, 2008 at 1505 hrs
I agree with the sentiment of your last sentiment, however you’re confusing a lot of levels of government and laws so that your post is an uneducated rant about government “all being the same”.
In general I do not believe the County is required to use union labor when it signs contracts (though it may be in some cases - I don’t know for sure). The County does not build roads nor run schools.
Your sentence about government “manipulating its compensations” makes no sense. Counties, and probably cities and other units of local government, are required by state and in some cases federal law to allow its workforce to unionize and therefore be subject to arbitration. That being the case, even if you got elected County Executive and offered a package that slashed benefits, you’d likely get waxed in arbitration and have nothing to show for it through no real fault of your own.
I know it’s real easy and real popular to simply rant about government as if it’s a monolithic body, but it just isn’t so.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 08, 2008 at 1111 hrs
Okay, I believe you and I am uneducaated at the different levels of Government, so could you tell me how the Tom Ament pension scandal worked then? I though that was a local/city level of Gov’t. I also seem to remember there was a hubbub since, about the board voting itself a raise after the scandal, but I could be wrong.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 10, 2008 at 0720 hrs
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