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Peterson Abandons Math in Favor of Rhetoric

Really?  It’s a one to one ratio?

For every vote Glenn gets because he cuts taxes, someone in Wisconsin doesn’t get to go to college.

Posted by Owen at 1723 hrs
Politics + Politics - Wisconsin

1. Gee, in 2004 Glen Grothman got 75,424 votes.  That’s a lot of Wisconsinites that didn’t get to go to college.  Good thing he’s got some competition this year - let’s say that his competitor gets 25,000 votes - how do those votes get converted into students who get to go to college?  Alphabetical order?  Lottery?  Highest ACT scores?  Party affiliation? If his competitor wins, what will happen if there aren’t enough willing “students” to correlate with the number of votes?  Will they be forced to go to college?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2008 at 1813 hrs
   
   
   

2. Now that he’s crossed that threshold, he may be eligible for the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2008 at 1946 hrs
   
   
   

3. Good question mht. Your questions are tough to answer.

   Posted by che of teak furniture on October 24, 2008 at 0444 hrs
   
   
   

4. As if someone else’s college education is my responsibility ... funny, I got stuck paying for my own.

   Posted by Peter on October 24, 2008 at 0604 hrs
   
   
   

5. Where did you go Peter?  And in what years?  And how much did you pay?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 0830 hrs
   
   
   

6. I paid my own way too; and here are my answers to JIJAWM’s questions:

   1. UW-Madison
   2. 1995-2000
   3. A lot.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 0919 hrs
   
   
   

7. I think that that is a public school and your education was therefore partially funded by the taxpayers.  Tuition was also a lot lower than when I went there, which was a lot lower than it is now.  That’s in real dollars.

   I’m not saying that we should have public subsidies for education by any means.  I guess, as far as public subsidies go, I’d rather fund education than a lot of other things.  But it bugs me when recipients of welfare complain about the same welfare.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 0949 hrs
   
   
   

8. What I meant to say, of course, was the for every vote Glenn gets for cutting taxes, God kills a kitten.

   Posted by mpeterson on October 24, 2008 at 1459 hrs
   
   
   

9. Is that the opposite of what happens when a bell rings and and angel gets its wings?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 1501 hrs
   
   
   

10. Oh yea, and every time a mousetrap goes off, an angel gets set on fire.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 1515 hrs
    
    
    

11. Where did you go Peter?  And in what years?  And how much did you pay?

    None of your damn business. I don’t answer personal questions on the Internet. But I didn’t attend the UW System either for undergraduate or graduate work.

    Posted by Peter on October 24, 2008 at 1524 hrs
    
    
    

12. recipients of welfare complain about the same welfare

    Holy fright. So in-state tuition rates are now “welfare”? I’ll bet you have no problem with illegal aliens receiving that. Never mind that those taxpayers and parents for most undergraduates are already subsidizing those institutions.

    Spare me. Is there anything you don’t consider welfare?

    Posted by Peter on October 24, 2008 at 1530 hrs
    
    
    

13. “None of your damn business.”

    Wow, you’re such a maniac.  Do you become this enraged every time a person asks you a question?

    “Holy fright. So in-state tuition rates are now “welfare”?”

    Wel-fair.  Noun.  ...  3. financial or other assistance to an individual or family from a city, state, or national government .

    So yes, it is.  To me, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad though. 

    “I’ll bet you have no problem with illegal aliens receiving that.”

    Well, if you must change the subject, I do have a problem with the fact that there are illegal aliens.  They should all get to become citizens if they want and be entitled to all of the rights of other Americans and must contribute the same as other Americans.  Anyway, back to welfare…

    “Spare me. Is there anything you don’t consider welfare?”

    Um, yeah.  Like all the stuff that isn’t welfare.  See the above definition.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 1542 hrs
    
    
    

14. I wonder how much less college would cost if the professors actually had to teach - no tenure, no TA’s and such.  Or the gazillions they spend on building monuments to their own greatness. 

    Small private college for undergrad
    UW system for grad school
    1988-1993
    1995-1998
    A whole lot more than I wanted to, but did it anyway.  With loans, not grants.
    it would be nice if the whiney-butt “you owe it to me” kids would have to put some skin in the game too.  If Oshkosh is too expensive, try MPTC.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 1738 hrs
    
    
    

15. I wonder how much tuition would cost if the state and federal government stopped subsidizing higher education.

    Universities charge what they do because of the implicit guarantee that the bills will be paid via student loans.

    While I cannot be certain, but I am willing to bet that if you tracked tuition increases in aggregate across the country, they would mirror the increases in federal student loan guarantees and grants.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 1806 hrs
    
    
    

16. <am>financial or other assistance to an individual or family from a city, state, or national government</em>

    You are defining a handout. People living in the state who attend UW System schools or whose kids attend UW System schools are already paying to support those institutions through their taxes. You forget to count that into the equation.

    Posted by Peter on October 24, 2008 at 2029 hrs
    
    
    

17. Wow, you’re such a maniac.

    You asked a personal question that was none of your business. I won’t give you that information any more than I will give you my SS# or my home address.

    Posted by Peter on October 24, 2008 at 2031 hrs
    
    
    

18. “You are defining a handout.”

    No.  The dictionary is defining “wellfare.”  Words have meanings.

    “People living in the state who attend UW System schools or whose kids attend UW System schools are already paying to support those institutions through their taxes. You forget to count that into the equation. “

    No.  That’s precisely what I did count.  That’s the goverment subsidy that saved me and Mr. PP and anyone else that went to public school a bunch of money.

    “You asked a personal question that was none of your business. I won’t give you that information any more than I will give you my SS# or my home address.”

    Exept that my question was more akin to “what’s your favorite color?” or “what do you do for a living?” than it was to the ID info a reasonable person wouldn’t want to disclose.  You must be a lonely man if that’s how you respond when someone asks about you.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 24, 2008 at 2207 hrs
    
    
    

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