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Seems like a reasonable ordinance to me.

The new ordinance will allow drivers to ask for prepayment under certain circumstances, including out-of-town destinations, intoxicated passengers and those who have a history of not paying or change destination en route.

Previously, cab companies could ask for prepayment between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m. if they required all customers to pay it.

Union Cab marketing manager John McNamara said discussions about changing the prepay rules began a few years ago after Madison police stopped responding to calls for unpaid fares and asked drivers to use the city’s self-reporting system.

Then again, I’m not sure why this should be a city matter and not just a company policy issue.

Posted by Owen at 2126 hrs
Politics + Politics - Wisconsin

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     The new ordinance should be good or bad,

   Posted by coach outlet on September 09, 2010 at 0410 hrs
   
   
   

2. As a former cab driver in Milwaukee, if MadTown is like it was here, it’s a city issue because everything a cab does is hyper-regulated by city government.

   A lot of times, if you don’t get at least a token payment, you are going to get screwed.

   Posted by Patrick Dorwin on September 09, 2010 at 0600 hrs
   
   
   

3. It is a city thing because the lefty’s are so concerned about racial profiling. The fear is that cab drivers would discriminate against minorities by forcing them to pre-pay more often than white fares.

   Restaurants don’t allow servers to pick and choose which large tables to apply a mandatory gratuity to for the same reason….

   It’s a sad state of affairs that we actually feel it is the responsibility of government to dictate good behavior.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 09, 2010 at 0751 hrs
   
   
   

4. I don’t know, maybe redlining?  Ya think?

   In spite of all the “liberal” cheerleading that goes on, Madison is a very racist town, and this policy is going to exacerbate the hassles that black folks face here, no question about it.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 09, 2010 at 1015 hrs
   
   
   

5. It seems to me that the city government is giving something BACK to the cab companies, not taking anything away…

   Previously, cab companies could ask for prepayment between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m. if they required all customers to pay it.

   (Bolding is mine…)

   It allows drivers and cab companies to make individual decisions without the risk of being sued.  Sounds like a win/win to me.

   It is a city thing because the lefty’s are so concerned about racial profiling. The fear is that cab drivers would discriminate against minorities by forcing them to pre-pay more often than white fares.

   Restaurants don’t allow servers to pick and choose which large tables to apply a mandatory gratuity to for the same reason….

   And you know this to be a fact HOW???  Who are you?  Carnac?

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 09, 2010 at 1142 hrs
   
   
   

6. I don’t know, maybe redlining?  Ya think?

   Ok, let’s say you are a pizza delivery driver and every time that you deliver a pizza to 16th and Walnut, the pizza gets stolen before you are paid. You get another call from 16th and Walnut and you tell the manager that they should get the caller to pre-pay. Isn’t that simply reality-lining? Why should the manager also make people calling from Shorewood (where you have never been robbed) pre-pay?

   Why should the areas that don’t have problems suffer consequences because of the areas that do? It’s not racist (people won’t be asked to pay based on their race), it’s just a reality.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 09, 2010 at 1252 hrs
   
   
   

7. Your pizza analogy doesn’t work here (and is problematic in itself, but that’s a different argument). 

   This isn’t about treating all the people in a particular location a particular way, it’s about individual cab drivers making subjective assessments of when to treat people differently based on their own personal criteria.  It’s already hard enough for blacks to get cabs around here, and this is going to make it even more of a hassle, in addition to being obviously insulting.

   I don’t think pre-payment is a hugely onerous condition of riding in a cab, but as a matter of principle it’s unacceptable to base that condition on race, which will happen now in Madison.  Add it to the list of reasons why I’m truly blessed to have been born a white guy, I guess.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 10, 2010 at 1145 hrs
   
   
   

8. Again, I suggest we/you wait to see what happens.  If discrimination claims increase as a result of this change, then we’ll know.  Otherwise, let’s not condemn it before some real issues arise…

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 10, 2010 at 1208 hrs
   
   
   

9. it’s unacceptable to base that condition on race, which will happen now in Madison.

   ...and you know this for a fact how? You are just assuming that the cabbies are all bigots… which is itself bigoted. You nothing to back up that outrageous claim beyond your own beliefs and prejudices.

   There is nothing wrong with my analogy. It’s ridiculous to use the force of law to make people engaged in a business activity subject themselves to excessive loss or danger because of the desire of liberals to view the world through race colored glasses.

   Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 10, 2010 at 1311 hrs
   
   
   

10. Yes, I’m assuming that at least one of the hundreds of cab drivers in town is a racist, which is almost a statistical certainty.  If you have an argument against the laws that prohibit racial discrimination in commercial activity, then make that argument.  But don’t just sit there and play dumb by pretending that there’s no such thing as racism.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 10, 2010 at 1418 hrs
    
    
    

11. The owners and operators of a business have as one of their main objectives the receipt or generation of a financial return in exchange for work and acceptance of risk. Notable exceptions include cooperative enterprises and state-owned enterprises. Businesses can also be formed not-for-profit or be state-owned.

    Posted by Payment Service Provider on September 16, 2010 at 0501 hrs
    
    
    

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