Paul Ryan Schools the President
But of course, Obama isn’t going to be talked off of his ledge.
Wow!! Now that’s what a leader sounds like, America…can’t wait for an opportunity to vote for him!
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2010 at 2332 hrs
And as Obama burns, watch the Prez give Ryan his patented middle finger while resting his hand on his cheek. Comes with about one minute left.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2010 at 2357 hrs
O Rock on with your bad self, Mr. Ryan!
Posted by GAMazy on February 26, 2010 at 0100 hrs
It’s a real tragedy that Ryan’s intelligence and thoughtfulness gets buried in these meetings because it’s not as easy to capture as buffoons like Boehner and Cantor carping about how many trees the Senate killed to print its health care bill.
The Democrats and Republicans both have smart people in Washington who are engaged on this issue. If only we could get rid of all the mindless hacks and demagogues in Congress and the lobbyists with their giant wallets, I have little doubt that a solution could be found that the overwhelming majority of Americans could get behind. But as usual, it’s the extremists on the fringe who scream like banshees, distort everything to hell, and block progress at all costs.
Posted by Recess Supervisor on February 26, 2010 at 0107 hrs
While I don’t agree with you often, Recess, I totally agree with you on this one.
Both sides have their village idiots and they are the ones who get face time on TV. Yes, there are some intelligent folks on the left and right but they won’t be heard.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 0408 hrs
Obama didn’t even discuss his points…
Excellent job by Ryan.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 0741 hrs
I don’t think anybody is ignoring Ryan. He strikes me as the kind of guy it is an honor to do battle against. Some opponents raise the level of discourse just by stepping into the ring. He is one. And you know he is on the White House radar.
I was saying to my friends early in the fall that we should be hearing about his HCR plans and balancing them against those of the Dems. It seems to me that’s how policy gets made in the best case scenario. But sadly, that time has passed. Yesterday’s show is over, with no impending agreements evident.
I say, time for reconciliation. Then let the elections in November determine the fallout.
Posted by Mike on February 26, 2010 at 0818 hrs
School us. What does Ryan offer that is not Republican rehash wrapped in pretty packaging delivered by an appealing individual?
The issue is rapidly rising health care costs, people not being covered who have health insurance and people becoming bankrupt for health care.
To remind you the topic here is not me being an alleged communist or what Obama is doing or not doing. It’s your praise of Ryan.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 0820 hrs
The issue is rapidly rising health care costs, people not being covered who have health insurance and people becoming bankrupt for health care.
Yes, it is. And the ideas presented by Ryan can be demonstrated to help. Please tell me what in the Obamacare bill helps reduce costs? The Whitehouse itself has admitted that it will do nothing. What does the Whitehouse offer that is not leftist rehash of 75 years worth of policy wet dreams?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 0848 hrs
8.School us. What does Ryan offer that is not Republican rehash wrapped in pretty packaging delivered by an appealing individual?
So which is it—no ideas brought forth whatsoever (which is what this WH and the Dems keep saying, even though there are links on the WH site to the GOP plans) or rehashed ideas?
It can’t be both ways.
Posted by hsgbdmama on February 26, 2010 at 0904 hrs
No, the issue is that Ryan “schooled” the President. With what? Old GOP ideas? You raised the issue.
So what exactly are you praising? Again, you are expecting us to take things on faith.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1020 hrs
Excuse me, but didn’t Ryan sit on his hands while the Bush administration kept the costs of the Iraq invasion off-book? Doesn’t that constitute the hiding of spending?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1022 hrs
Excuse me, but didn’t Ryan sit on his hands while the Bush administration kept the costs of the Iraq invasion off-book? Doesn’t that constitute the hiding of spending?
OMG, are you serious? I really hope your joking about this, tongue in cheek style.
The two are completely unrelated in any way. The Iraq War was done for completely different concerns than this health care fiasco… and if you can’t grasp that, then you’re hopeless. The health care reform is being promoted because it will SAVE MONEY. The fact that the accounting tricks being used are hiding costs, means that it WON’T SAVE MONEY, and instead COST MORE. Ryan was schooling the President on those facts, and I’m not surprised that they went completely over your head.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1054 hrs
It’s a real tragedy that Ryan’s intelligence and thoughtfulness gets buried in these meetings because it’s not as easy to capture as buffoons like Boehner and Cantor carping about how many trees the Senate killed to print its health care bill.
It’s also a real tragedy that Ryan’s intelligence and thoughtfulness gets buried and lost on people like Keith. He can’t understand the concepts Ryan has presented, so he needs those very buffoons that you so justly belittle.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1057 hrs
BRAVO RYAN, WELL DONE!
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1122 hrs
RS - well said, and I couldn’t agree more. The part of it with the idiots & partisan hacks controlling things, I just don’t know how to deal with. In part, it’s our fault as voters who continue to elect them - the American voter has the attention span just slightly longer than a fruit fly & buys the pretty lies over the ugly truth.
But in terms of actually getting things done - especially on something as big as health care reform the solution is not to try and solve every problem with one huge bill. The perfect is the enemy of the good. It results in huge pork/buyoffs and garbage piled in and hidden due to the mass. It’s trying to square a circle.
A large portion of our problems with health care coverage/insurance are things most of us agree on. Lets address them in individual, targeted legislation to fix the specific problems. For example, pre-existing conditions, help for the uninsured, and coverage tied to employment. Theses are all things that everybody wants fixed and can each be addressed on their own and while there are many other issues, we’re that much better off, and headed in the right direction with at least some of the problems solved. Back to the geography metaphors - we’re at a square & want a circle. Instead of cutting the whole circle out, we begin chopping off the corners on at a time. If this approach had been taken a year ago, we’d already be at an octagon and on our way instead of still stuck at the start.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1156 hrs
If only we could get rid of all the mindless hacks and demagogues in Congress and the lobbyists with their giant wallets, I have little doubt that a solution could be found that the overwhelming majority of Americans could get behind.
Amen. I still maintain the way this will happen is through term limits, but that’s never gonna happen.
I do have a grudging respect for the Dems right now - they know this will lose them seats, but they’re still pushing this through because they believe in it. I hope they fail, but that doesn’t mean I can’t admire them for trying.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1225 hrs
cynical, I know what you’re saying, but I’ll have to disagree. I’d like for the bastards to hang.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1315 hrs
Ryan voted for Medicare Part D (the drug benefit), which was completely unfunded. Until he apologizes and renounces his vote on that, he stands as a stark raving hypocrite when it comes to being concerned about how to pay for health care legislation.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1421 hrs
I’d like for the bastards to hang.
No wonder folks don’t take certain parts of the electorate seriously. Talk about Nazi mentality: hang those who disagree with me. Shit.
Posted by Mike on February 26, 2010 at 1717 hrs
I’d say the terms “idiot” and “partisan hack” cover 1-note Keith.
Paul Ryan absolutely ROCKED yesterday.
I just wish someone would put this up as a side-by-side to… I don’t know, every one of the Dems that spoke yesterday. It was tough to pick the the best sob story. But my favorite was the barely-coherent John Dingel at the end.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1829 hrs
Paul Ryan’s plan is to balance the budget on the backs of poor seniors.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1903 hrs
Really Joe?
Do tell. I eagerly await your detailed analysis of the Ryan plan that backs up your opinion.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 1919 hrs
I wish we could put Paul and Barack in a room together and tell them they can’t come out until they have come up with a fix to our current broken healthcare system.
Posted by Charlie Hillman on February 26, 2010 at 2051 hrs
Mike,
It doesn’t have anything to do with disagreeing. It has to do with making it harder for me, and others, to take care of our families. They want to do that, and I don’t give a flying fig what happens to them. I view it as a personal attack on my ability to take care of my family.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 2110 hrs
Paul Ryan’s plan is to balance the budget on the backs of poor seniors.
THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!
Poor seniors, having their healthcare and retirement expenses paid by the two generations behind them, whatever will they do!!!????
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2010 at 2135 hrs
I was only able to catch bits and pieces of the whole show. But I was dismayed that only a brief interlude of it was concerned with malpractice tort reform. Health care costs won’t drop until doctors no longer have to chunk out 6 and 7 figure sums for malpractice coverage. The dispicable cretins who make their living suing doctors need to be put on the unemployment roles and forced to seek a living where they contribute to, rather than steal from, society. I’m not a doc nor do I work in health care. But in 30+ years as an emergency responder I’ve seen how much time is wasted with paperwork and procedures done only to prevent one from being sued. All it does is add to the costs of health care.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 27, 2010 at 0849 hrs
Well said Jim, however the partisan left dismisses this as “GOP Rehash” and ignore the fact that their party is in the pocket of the trial lawyers (hell, most of them are trial lawyers). Tort reform is the logical first step, and should be implemented immediately, before we even begin discussing coverage for the poor, chronically ill, or twenty somethings… As the price of coverage drops it may well be that we’ll find it unnecessary to do much more, because more people will be able to afford private insurance.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 27, 2010 at 0908 hrs
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