Obama’s Lying Ad
It seems like a candidate who is constantly accusing other people of lying about him would refrain from lying about his opponent.
ANALYSIS: Obama’s campaign misleadingly paints McCain as an opponent of embryonic stem cell research to score points with independent and female voters in Wisconsin, the birthplace of the field.
Montgomery is a Wisconsin woman who appeared in a similar ad supporting Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle’s re-election bid in 2006. That television ad accused his opponent, then-Rep. Mark Green, of being against the work.
One difference: Green had a record of voting in Congress against the use of tax money for research involving the destruction of embryos. McCain does not; he has supported the research that many say could unlock cures to disease.
In fact, McCain voted in 2006 and 2007 for bills that would increase federal funding for the research and lift President Bush’s restrictions on the work. His stance has angered many social conservatives in his own party but won him praise from advocates for the research. President Bush vetoed those bills.
To back up its claims that McCain opposed the research, the Obama campaign pointed to a letter he signed with 20 Republican lawmakers in 2000 asking the National Institutes of Health to block proposed studies on stem cells.
Its quite simple actually;
If you accuse a person early on of doing something they haven’t done, and then later on you do whatever it is that you accused them of having done, then you haven’t really done whatever it is that you accused the other person of doing.
See I told you it was quite simple.
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on September 23, 2008 at 1759 hrs
Is it safe to call Jody Montgomery what many on our side of the cheddarsphere wanted to do in 2006?
A liberal Democratic political hack using her daughter as a prop!
Posted by Kevin Binversie on September 23, 2008 at 1801 hrs
Or you could look at it this way….
If you accuse a person early on of doing something they haven’t done, and then later on you do whatever it is that you accused them of having done, then you haven’t really done whatever it is that you accused the other person of doing. you haven’t really done it yourself. Because the other person did it first, even though they haven’t done anything at all
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on September 23, 2008 at 1806 hrs
Well, the official GOP 2008 platform calls for a stem cell ban, and McCain said Palin would head up a task force on debilitating diseases if he were elected president. It’s fair to say that McCain opposes stem cell research. Which I figured you would be pleased with.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 23, 2008 at 1846 hrs
Steve-o
And I presume that you have something other than “The GOP platform calls for a stem cell ban” to base your opinions on?
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on September 23, 2008 at 1851 hrs
Steve-O,
The ad never says “embryonic.” It just says “stem cell.” To say that McCain, or Republicans in general, oppose stem cell research is a flat out lie. Can you bring yourself to admit that Obama is lying here?
Posted by Owen on September 23, 2008 at 1900 hrs
Please tell me you don’t actually teach kids at Oklahoma U. and that your just a janitor. Please tell me this PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!
The following is the full text of the 2008 GOP platform on Funding medical research:
We support federal investment in basic and applied biomedical research. This commitment will maintain America’s global competitiveness, advance innovative science that can lead to medical breakthroughs, and turn the tide against diseases affecting millions of Americans – diseases that account for the majority of our health care costs. The United States leads in this research, as evidenced by our growing biotechnology industry, but foreign competition is increasing. One way government can help preserve the promise of American innovation is to ensure that our intellectual property laws remain robust.
Federal research dollars should be spent as though lives are at stake – because, in fact, they are. Research protocols must consider the special needs of formerly neglected groups if we are to make significant progress against breast and prostate cancer, diabetes, and other killers.
Taxpayer-funded medical research must be based on sound science, with a focus on both prevention and treatment, and in accordance with the humane ethics of the Hippocratic Oath. In that regard, we call for a major expansion of support for the stem-cell research that now shows amazing promise and offers the greatest hope for scores of diseases – with adult stem cells, umbilical cord blood, and cells reprogrammed into pluripotent stem cells – without the destruction of embryonic human life. We call for a ban on human cloning and for a ban on the creation of or experimentation on human embryos for research purposes.
We believe medicines and treatments should be designed to prolong and enhance life, not destroy it. Therefore, federal funds should not be used for drugs that cause the destruction of human life. Furthermore, the Drug Enforcement Administration ban on use of controlled substances for physician-assisted suicide should be restored.
Ya know Steve perhaps you could show me where the words John McCain, Stem Cell and Ban appear.
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on September 23, 2008 at 1901 hrs
Wow, partisans complaining about the other side lying.
It’s like if the Milwaukee Brewers did a motivational presentation on coming through in the clutch.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 23, 2008 at 2012 hrs
Nice work, Mr. Cheaney. I don’t think we’ll see Steve-O on this thread again, as this is typically about the stage in the debate when he realizes he’s late for night class or something.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 23, 2008 at 2013 hrs
Thank you Tony,
Posted by Michael J. Cheaney on September 23, 2008 at 2016 hrs
Tony, have you ever backed up and said, “I was wrong?” I haven’t seen it. I also don’t understand why you make this personal.
The GOP platform does call for an embryonic stell cem research ban. Since the entire debate is about embryonic stem cells, (taken from embryos that are being thrown in the trash anyway) it’s fair to point out that this is yet another McCain flip-flop.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1042 hrs
Steve, the ad is a lie, admit it.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1116 hrs
Tony, have you ever backed up and said, “I was wrong?” I haven’t seen it.
I guess for Steve-O there’s some sort of admission-of-error quid quo pro. OK, fine. Yes, last week I admitted being wrong about a prediction that the mother who microwaved her baby to death would get off easy.
Your turn, sport.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1459 hrs
Whoops. Latin dyslexia. Or does that make it Greek? Anyway, quid quo pro = quid pro quo.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1502 hrs
Hey Tony anymore economic insights you would like to share?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1503 hrs
What are you talking about?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1506 hrs
I’ll admit that Owen has a fair point about the ad not being specific about the embryonic distinction. Otherwise, it’s perfectly accurate.
Tony, I don’t have endless amounts of time to debate with you. I’m not going to go back page after page to see if people have responded to my comments after days. Some days I’m too busy to do more than chime in a couple of times. And other times, your response aren’t even worth a rebuttal. I believe that more than once, I’ve admitted when I’ve made a mistake. So have some of the others who comment here regularly, even including xxpilot.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1612 hrs
I’ll admit that Owen has a fair point about the ad not being specific about the embryonic distinction. Otherwise, it’s perfectly accurate.
Are you kidding me?
The entire point of the ad was that McCain supposedly opposes stem cell research, which is a lie. How exactly is the “otherwise accurate” supposed to impress us? Reminds me of the oft-told joke about Mary Todd Lincoln being asked, “So other than that, did you enjoy the play?”
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 24, 2008 at 1638 hrs
McCain opposes embryonic stem cell research. That’s where the disagreement is between the two of them, and between the two political parties, roughly speaking.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on September 25, 2008 at 0625 hrs
Research protocols must consider the special needs of formerly neglected groups if we are to make significant progress against breast and prostate cancer, diabetes, and other killers.
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