Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Obama’s Address

No… not 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue… his speech to the nation tonight.  Feel free to offer reaction in the comments.  I may or may not put some reaction in this post.  We’ll see how quickly I get drunk from doing shots every time he says “crisis” or “uh.” 

“Government is not the problem.  It is the solution.”  I’m summarizing. 

Here’s my reaction:

rolleyes

This President is more full of shit than my septic tank.  He said some nice things, but they directly contradict what he has actually done (or proposed).  For example, he railed on the irresponsibility of passing on debt to our kids when he just signed legislation that adds TRILLIONS to that debt.  He is not a serious man.

(36) Comments
Posted by Owen at 2059 hrs
Politics + Politics - General

  1. It is now.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2132 hrs


  2. This President is more full of shit than my septic tank.  He said some nice things, but they directly contradict what he has actually done (or proposed).  For example, he railed on the irresponsibility of passing on debt to our kids when he just signed legislation that adds TRILLIONS to that debt.  He is not a serious man.

    And I thought i was the only one that noticed.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2205 hrs


  3. I am saddened that you are unable to understand how serious he is. What he added to the national debt was upfront and honest. What he offered tonight was an upfront and honest goal, with no sugar coating. We’re done with the days of pretending these decisions don’t come with costs, we’ve had 8 years of that. I have great confidence in his sincerity, boosted mostly by his sobering seriousness.

    Come 2012 one of us will be telling the other I told you so, I look forward to your endorsement of President Obama’s re-election once you’ve come around. 8^)

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2210 hrs


  4. Do damn bad the crap he is leading us into is serious.  Otherwise this would have been high comedy.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2211 hrs


  5. Lefty,

    I’m saddened that you are unable to weigh his words against his actions.

    Posted by Owen on February 24, 2009 at 2219 hrs


  6. Where is Piyush?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2224 hrs


  7. Lefty, coming around to endorse Obama would mean refuting all that I stand for.  Fairness, hard work, honesty, faith.  Government is a necessary evil, anything beyond what is necessary is evil.  To me, most of his policies are truly sinful, and are leading us further into a moral and economic morass.  I’ll pray for the country, while I hunker down and hope the damage he will do in 4 years can be undone in my lifetime.  So don’t hold out any hope for my endorsement.  He truly and utterly scares me.  Not for myself.  I’ll weather this storm fine, but for my children and my grandchildrens very souls.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2232 hrs


  8. Funny how he said that his budget would be a blueprint for America when it’s actually Americans should direct themselves.  When someone asks me what I’m going to do in the future I’ll just reply, “ask the president, he has the blueprint”.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2233 hrs


  9. Owen,

    You really think that passing a federal appropriations package in 2012 that contains a deficit of half of what will be passed this year is that steep of a hill to climb?  That this is somehow outside of the realm of attainability?  Yet reaching even that modest goal will be far more fiscally responsible that the policies of the last eight years.

    Obama spent a boat load of money in a short time period, something he said he would do.  He’s said since day one of his campaign that the long term goal is a return towards fiscal responsibility.  He’s continued that theme throughout the stimulus debate.  He reiterated it tonight.  He could have simply said months ago…,“you know this problem is too big, we’ll probably never make much progress towards restoring fiscal sanity in my four years, but it isn’t my fault I’m stuck with the cards I’m dealt…,”  yet he hasn’t.  He won’t stop reminding people that the stimulus is a short term step in answering a much bigger long term problem.  If he wasn’t serious, he wouldn’t keep putting the issue conservatives most greatly want to criticize him over on the front burner.

    Disagree with his policies.  Make fun of the lefty loons who worship at his feet don’t realize how many of their causes this particular president isn’t interested in taking up.  But it is inaccurate to think of this man as anything but serious.  He is not to be underestimated.

    Too many, myself included, dismissed his chances to ever get out of Iowa, much less strike the exact chord that would move 70% of the nation.  He isn’t doing anything fly by night, it is all very calculated, deliberate and most of all serious.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2240 hrs


  10. Would you like some more ice with your kool-aid lefty?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2247 hrs


  11. And the Republican party miscalculates this President at their peril. Really Owen, you are more astute at politics than that, and maybe this is just an expression of sour grapes. More of this attitude and the GOP becomes the incredible shrinking party.

    Gotta feel sorry for their dilemma. They have to attack the President to assume the status of being the loyal opposition, but the American people right now are not in the mood for it.

    Obama is as serious as his predecessor was not serious.

    You all didn’t care to look, but during the campaign he was showing the character that is carrying him and the country forward. That of cool steadiness that will play well with the American people.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 24, 2009 at 2328 hrs


  12. As soon as I took office, I asked this Congress to send me a recovery plan by President’s Day that would put people back to work and put money in their pockets.  Not because I believe in bigger government – I don’t.

    How does this guy get away with this?  He doesn’t believe in bigger government?  Are you FKM?

    He proposed NOTHING but bigger government tonight.

    These mindless Obamabots just sit and oogle over the guy with NO objective thought as to what he’s saying.

    Paul Ryan had a few comments that said it best (paraphrasing)  “you have to admit, he gives a good speech, hes a masterful rhetorician”

    Indeed.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0000 hrs


  13. So, Lefty, would that, umm, “fiscal responsibility” begin after wasting $787 billion on a bill that no one had the opportunity to read before it was crammed down our throats?

    You’re saddened by Owen’s rational response?

    You should be, like most of us disappointed and alarmed by this administration’s lack of leadership.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0025 hrs


  14. Paul Ryan had a few comments that said it best (paraphrasing)  “you have to admit, he gives a good speech, hes a masterful rhetorician”

    Hitler made great speeches too but it didn’t make him right either.

    “Welcome back Carter”

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0640 hrs


  15. I’d say Hitler is a good analogy as we nationalize the banks and the car companies and the health care system and ram through huge expansion of the government without any comment or time to even read the bill! Since most of the “benefit” wasn’t supposed to happen until 2010 or 2011 - what was the rush to pass it?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0743 hrs


  16. It was a speech utterly unrelated to the problems at hand.  His “solutions” do not address the problems, they are simply longstanding wishlist items and payoffs to the constituencies that elected him.  I did laugh out loud when he said he had no illusions about the difficulties involved.

    The economic situation has changed what is acceptable in politics.  Obama could have taken advantage of this, but instead he has chosen to govern per his predecessors.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0811 hrs


  17. Just in case you were wondering….“Nobody messes with Joe!”
    Sha!  I could even get a reading on my confidence meter. There must actually be something about Joe that is not apparent to me.  Subtle leadership maybe huh??

    BO kept up the victim thing with claiming the deficit was inherited from Bush.  Blame someone other than yourself has become a mantra.

    But what always sticks in my mind are the projected timelines.  Clinton liked to make 5 year plans in his first 4 year term.  Obama talked about debt recovery over 10 years.

    Bottom line is we have to say Yes now to whatever he wants to spend.  To not agree only causes more spending.  Look at what has gone on since he became president.  Everytime he is questioned about accountablity for the big cash, he gives out more cash!  SO if we stop questioning we might just actually spend less. 

    I liked the cure for cancer part….When he started making the long list of gonna dos I wondered if a cure for the common cold was also gonna make the list….okay so I aimed a bit low.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0822 hrs


  18. You heard it people.  Bill, who somewhere in his political rhetoric, I assume, would include a belief in personal responsibility and faith in the common man, has just indicated that a very strong majority of these voters have cast their ballots for a man he compares to Hitler. 

    He sees this relation, and presumably the rest of the voters do not.

    We are lambs being led to slaughter unable to tell for ourselves what is right. 

    He gets this and those who voted for this guy do not.

    Elitism.

    Posted by Mike on February 25, 2009 at 0834 hrs


  19. I lost track of the number of times that I yelled at the TV:  “Will you stop campaigning and start leading!”  It was a great big campaign speech and that’s all it was.  You’d have sworn that he was giving it in some inner-city church somewhere.  BO has spent more time giving speeches than he has doing what he was elected to do:  LEAD!

    BTW, did anyone keep track of the number of times Pelosi blinked?  And that stupid grin of hers!  Did her last facelift pull it too tight?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0843 hrs


  20. I was disappointed in Jindal.  I wanted a respose that was more “Rick Santelli” and less “Mr. Rogers.”

    More and more people are begining to think the stimulus bill and mortgage rescue plan are both a huge mistake.  I was hoping that the GOP found someone who could be a voice for that opposition. 

    I’m not sure he is the guy.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 0919 hrs


  21. “I am saddened that you are unable to understand how serious he is.” 

    Hey Lefty looks like no one else is understanding this..

    Dow is down 160..

    “strike the exact chord that would move 70% of the nation.”

    So looks like the 30% that dont support him are all in the market right?

    “He isn’t doing anything fly by night, it is all very calculated, deliberate and most of all serious.”

    Insert Keith Olbermann’s “Oh God” here…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1034 hrs


  22. I never thought I could go broke so fast.  Thanks Obama, and the horse you rode in on…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1053 hrs


  23. I was disappointed in Jindal.  I wanted a respose that was more “Rick Santelli” and less “Mr. Rogers.”


    YES!  Exactly

    Last night was proof to me that Obama didn’t mean 1 word of his innaugural address.  I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but it was just words.

    There is no personal accountability anymore.  No asking people to take care of themselves, strive for a better life.  Nope… sit back and let governemment give you everything.

    This healthcare bullshit. If there is ANY question in anyones mind if this is about “stimulus” or about advancing his socialist agenda, last night was proof positive.

    Healthcare has NOTHING to do with stimulus and he’s selling it that way. Its a crock of shit.

    Ask ANYONE in emergency medicine why healthcare is so expensive.  Ask ANYONE in emergency medicine how people who get “free healthcare” use that entitlement.  They show up to the emergency room because the f’ing crotch itches.  (you think I’m kidding)  Anyone who works in emergency medicine will tell you that people who get free healthcare ABUSE IT like you wouldn’t believe.  And with todays economy our priority is to add MORE americans to free healthcare?  I couldn’t think of ANYTHING less stimulating and MORE harmful to our economy.  UN-B-F’ing-lievable.

    And the Obamabots just sit glassy-eyed and in awe.

    I will say one thing. FOR THE FIRST TIME last night I heard even the mainstream media talking about how Obama had overused FEAR to try to sell these massive (massive doesn’t even seem the right word) spending bills.  I heard one say “less fear more hope” was in order.

    And one more thing… Next time I watch a Barack speech on NBC I’m going to have to sit back from the tele a little further.  I think I got some of their Obamagasm on me.  I felt so dirty.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1100 hrs


  24. I couldn’t even watch Jindal’s response. It’s was uncharacteristic of him and the way I’ve normally heard him speak.

    How does he go from this, to that response last night? Ouch.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1119 hrs


  25. I flipped between Obama and Dirty Harry in Magnun Force and found a great line from the movie that applies here. ” A man has got to know his limitations”. How true. The government cannot be all things to all people and has got to stop trying. Unfortunately Americans are so lazy and self indulgent that they look to Obama as the man that will save them from themselves.

    Here is my plan to ride out the storm.

    1) Stop listening to the media. They lie. I am not going to let them control what I think and do.
    2) Fully fund my ROTH IRA and overfund my Life Insurance policies. Why. Tax Free growth for the future and tax free withdrawals for income.
    3) In 2010 convert all of my traditional IRAs to Roth and spread the tax burden over 3 years.
    3) Go to a cash based budgeting.
    4) I have decided not to participate in the recession.
    5) Demand more from whomever wants my vote. The Republicans are useless and the Democrats are nuts so its time to look elsewhere.

    I have worked my ass of for a 800 credit score and a good standard of living. I am not about to let some psycho liberal or pansy RINO take it from me without a fight. It is time that those of us “the great silent majority” as Nixon put it ,stand up and take back the America that stands for something. The rugged individualism of Teddy Roosevelt, the backbone of Ronald Reagan, we need this more than ever.

    Rick Santelli for President.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1121 hrs


  26. Perhaps i’d be more inclined to believe all these comments if i couldn’t find so many where you all thought GWB was so Great!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1323 hrs


  27. RE: 19

    I had to listen to his B.S. with my eyes closed.
    BTW (it sounds WORSE when you can’t see him).

    Why?

    There are two people that make me physically sick to watch:
    1) Pelosi, sitting there with that smirk on her face (when she
        was sitting)

    2) Jim Doyle; same reason.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1331 hrs


  28. Perhaps i’d be more inclined to believe all these comments if i couldn’t find so many where you all thought GWB was so Great!

    Who’s butt has your head been up? 

    Links, please, to back up your statement.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1343 hrs


  29. While watching the speech last night I turned and uttered a sentence to my wife that I thought would never pass my lips would I live to be a million years old ...

    ‘This guy makes me yearn for the Good Old Days of Bill Clinton’

    My god!  Did I just write it for public consumption too??

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1347 hrs


  30. This guy makes me yearn for the Good Old Days of Bill Clinton’

    Heck, I yearn for the days when Hillary still had a chance!  That’s how out of whack I am.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1457 hrs


  31. TD # 29

    I said the exact same thing to my husband yesterday before the speech.  By 2012 we will be thinking that Carter really wasn’t all that bad.  Clinton will look like a freaking hero.

    gfg # 36

    If you were paying attention, you would know that the vast majority of us thought that GWB was an enormous disappointment on fiscal responsibility.  Hardly a bunch of cheerleaders here.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1532 hrs


  32. Perhaps i’d be more inclined to believe all these comments if i couldn’t find so many where you all thought GWB was so Great!

    Absolutely hollow criticism dude.  As has been requested, find the links and post em.

    Or troll somewhere else…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1539 hrs


  33. No kidding xxpilot.  On this and almost every other conservative outlet, we’ve panned GWB for years.  Other than national security, he was horrible for us.  Just having him identified as a “conservative” set us back a decade.  That being said, we’ve been forced to vote for him as the lessor of two evils.  Much like I had to swallow my pride and vote for the idiot McCain. 

    Bush was awful, but BO has already done more damage to this country than GWB was able to do in eight f$*#)$)# years.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 1848 hrs


  34. That being said, we’ve been forced to vote for him as the lessor of two evils.

    Not me, I vote libertarian. 

    The most shocking part about democrats is the audacity to shirk all responsibility.  Vote for the war in iraq and then pin it on bush.  Decry the deficit spending to fund the war THEY voted for and NOW support THIS king of unprecedented spending?  Spending thats beyond comprehension??

    Hey… Wars end… Social spending and entitlements go on FOREVER. 

    And talk about NO exit strategy.  How about a “how the fuck are we gonna pay for this” exit strategy.

    Unreal…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 25, 2009 at 2333 hrs


  35. Well, so far so good. I just hope he isn’t just telling me what I want to hear and actually follows through on his proposals, particularly health care. I think if the right just bitches and moans Democrats will maintain or even continue to make gains in congress. If Jindal and Santelli are the voice of the right I feel sorry for you.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2009 at 0025 hrs


  36. Hope you have VERY deep pockets, liberal marine.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on February 26, 2009 at 1025 hrs


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