Obama Administration to Continue Folly
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar says he will issue a new order imposing a moratorium on deepwater drilling after a federal judge struck down the existing one.
Salazar said in a statement Tuesday evening that the new order will contain additional information making clear why the six-month drilling pause was necessary in the wake of the Gulf oil spill. The judge in New Orleans who struck down the moratorium earlier in the day complained there wasn’t enough justification for it.
Salazar pointed to indications of inadequate safety precautions by industry on deepwater wells. He said he would issue a new order in the coming days showing that a moratorium is needed.
I haven’t had time to look into the injunction in any detail. At first blush it looks like an overreach by a federal judge, even though I agree with his sentiments. Still, this is horrible policy based on flimsy justifications rooted in blind ideology. That’s why, I suppose, the Obama Administration is hell bent on enacting it.
It’s not Folly, it’s design. obama said when he was campaigning, (and I’m paraphrasing) we can no longer have those things we’ve come to take for granted such as heating and cooling of our homes, gas guzzling cars and trucks. He said what his plan was, wasn’t anyone listening? And he isn’t done, so you just keep watching because things are going to get much worse.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 22, 2010 at 2123 hrs
Let me get this straight. We don’t know exactly why the Deepwater Horizon blew. We don’t know if whatever caused it might be similarly endangering other rigs. We don’t know how to stop a disaster like this once it occurs.
But a six month moratorium to investigate some of these issues is “folly”?
About the only thing we DO know is that the gulf cannot withstand a second incident like this one. The risk of that happening—however small—is inconceivable. And safeguarding ourselves against that risk as best we can outweighs any other interest right now.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1012 hrs
About the only thing we DO know is that the gulf cannot withstand a second incident like this one. The risk of that happening—however small—is inconceivable. And safeguarding ourselves against that risk as best we can outweighs any other interest right now.
Coming from the guy who “Didn’t know” what else Obama could do…. What are we at now? 62 days?
The moratorium stands only to further damage the US economy. It is a bad plan, and it was done because this president has ABSOLUTELY no idea what else to do. There is no text book on “oil calamity mitigation”.There is a chance that one of the giant air compressors at Charter Steel in Saukville will explode, it has happened before… It could kill people… Lets put a moratorium on steel mills.
There is a chance that a coal mine in WV could collapse, killing workers. Lets put a moratorium on all mining.
There is a chance that the IT department at Marquette University could catch fire. Lets put a moratorium on server banks.
There is a chance that drywall can crack and fall from ceilings and kill a small child. Lets put a moratorium on drywall manufacturing.
There is a chance that I will die in a car accident, lets put a moratorium on driving.
There is a chance that Al and Tipper Gore will get divorced, lets put a moratorium on marriage.
There is a chance that one of the red pines behind my house will fall in the storm today, lets make rules governing how far I can plant trees from my house…. Better yet lets create a government agency to inspect them.
There is a chance that the ipad could cause lap cancer, lets put a moratorium on Apple.
There is a chance that coffee pots could cause fires, lets put a moratorium on the manufacture of coffee pots.
There is a chance that radical islam could launch another 9-11 style attack on a major US city, lets put a moratorium on thought, so that nobody can be radicalized.
The moratorium is about grinding the boot just a little deeper into the necks of the American public.I want to know from where the President derives the power to shut down industries on a whim? Seriously.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1101 hrs
Still, this is horrible policy based on flimsy justifications rooted in blind ideology. That’s why, I suppose, the Obama Administration is hell bent on enacting it.
No, I think it’s good policy - you just don’t have the inside information the Administration has on this. See they know they’re inspection and oversight is incompetent - at best - and given that we can’t actually trust them, it provides a different perspective on allowing the dangerous work to go on.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1106 hrs
I want to know from where the President derives the power to shut down industries on a whim? Seriously.
Because he said so.
I know some people want to point at the constitution and scream about frameworks and powers and rights, but the constitution doesn’t matter anymore and it hasn’t for a long time. Both republican and democrat have shredded that document and twisted it’s words around so much that it is now meaningless. There’s no need to “gat back to the constitution” it already failed once, why would you want to do it again?
Posted by Jay4Liberty on June 23, 2010 at 1244 hrs
We don’t know exactly why the Deepwater Horizon blew. We don’t know if whatever caused it might be similarly endangering other rigs
Actually, we DO know what made it blow, and the DeepWaterHorizon project is UN-like any other drilling project in the Gulf at this time.
Try again, with facts this time.
Posted by dad29 on June 23, 2010 at 1313 hrs
Locke:
” you just don’t have the inside information the Administration has on this. See they know they’re inspection and oversight is incompetent - at best - and given that we can’t actually trust them, it provides a different perspective on allowing the dangerous work to go on.”And still no bureaucratic firings despite this being a known fact. And you wonder why this country is becoming a complete failure when those who are supposed to be administering the procedures are never held accountable for their incompetence? I think maybe the terrorists are on to something, maybe destroying D.C. and all of the ignoramuses hold up there is in the best interest of everyone, especially those of the people of the U.S. If things DON’T change come November we should seriously consider it because we can not continue on the path we’re on.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1313 hrs
I think maybe the terrorists are on to something
If things DON’T change come November we should seriously consider it
But you’re not a nutcase or anything.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1326 hrs
This is a reasonable decision.Not a Partisan one- just what a reasonable person would do when one mistake can cause billions of $ of problems for this country.
Private industries that destroy multiple cities economies and the failed technology must be shut down until they have both a solution to the current problem and the mechanism to insure against future one"s
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1331 hrs
scott, just because you are willing to accept mediocrity, should everyone? The Liberal push toward takeover since the 40s the country has been on a steady downward spiral, and just like our forefathers concern with the way the British ruled some of us are concerned with what will be the end result of this fiasco.
Please don’t fear for my sanity big guy, as the saying goes “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting the results to be different.” I think that’s more descriptive of the person residing in your mirror.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1345 hrs
Given that this is a 6 month moratorium, and that the reasons for the initial failure are fairly well understood, we might consider that the real reason for the moratorium is related to the possibility, whatever the odds, of a worse case scenario developing on the Deepwater Horizon well. In that case this is just a precautionary measure from an administration that has been completely closed lipped regarding the ongoing spill and not some new policy measure.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1406 hrs
Welcome to the communist fringe, Mark!
the reasons for the initial failure are fairly well understood
So I guess there’s no reason for any kind of investigation. What a relief. But what about other similar rigs? Is it also “fairly well understood” that they don’t have any of the same kinds of problems?
just like our forefathers concern with the way the British
I’m pretty sure the concern with the British was “taxation without representation.” Might come as a surprise to you that nobody here in America is in that situation today. And thus your use of the phrase “just like” is completely wrong.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1447 hrs
Note, scott, that they are not proposing to shut down existing wells. If you’re not shutting down existing wells that’s a statement that either you know there’s nothing you can do about them, they are unaffected by similar problems, or both.
And, yes, what occurred is not some mystery. The mystery is what is going on beneath the seabed right now and whether or not the relief wells will be able to seal off the leaking well from below. Hopefully they can. If they can’t then another solution must be found and that solution may in fact impact oher drilling operations. In either case we’ll know for sure in no more than a couple of months.
The administration’s job is to hope for the best and plan for the worst. The worst may be made worse by additional drilling.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1505 hrs
Time to start drilling the Great Llakes…
No biggie actually: “Revealed: Judge who overturned Obama’s offshore moratorium owns drilling stocks”
By Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010—3:56 pmThe federal judge who overturned Barack Obama’s offshore drilling moratorium appears to own stock in numerous companies involved in the offshore oil industry—including Transocean, which leased the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig to BP prior to its April 20 explosion…
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0622/judge-holding-drilling-firm-stocks-overturns-drilling-moratorium/
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1654 hrs
Private industries that destroy multiple cities economies and the failed technology must be shut down until they have both a solution to the current problem and the mechanism to insure against future one"s
This is BS to the nth degree!
Lets look at your logic in another situation, shall we:
If a hardware store in Manitowoc had a major cataclysmic explosion of its propane tanks, killing 150 people in neighboring apartment buildings, all the hardware stores in the state should be shut down to insure it won’t happen somewhere else?
Man I wish I lived in your world, you know, the world where something that ridiculous makes sense…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1703 hrs
BP should pay the price for its problem, not the entire oil industry. Which, by the by, employs thousands and thousands of Americans….
Did you guys forget that we are in a relatively fragile economic state right now?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1712 hrs
Might come as a surprise to you that nobody here in America is in that situation today.
Really?
Huh….
Your definition of “representation” is not mine. Obviously.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1714 hrs
Your definition of “representation” is not mine. Obviously.
Did you or did you not have the opportunity to vote in a fair election?
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1732 hrs
Lets look at your logic in another situation, shall we:
I think what you’re failing to understand is the scale. This isn’t an exploded propane tank. It’s the devastation of entire industries, incredible natural resources, spread across multiple states. Have you stopped to consider what a second incident like this one would mean for the region? I appreciate what a six month work stoppage means for an industry of this size, but it still doesn’t measure up to the dangers we’re talking about here. If we don’t make double damned sure it can’t happen again, there won’t be any industry in the gulf region, unless you count the people employed to wash birds with Dawn dishwashing liquid.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1739 hrs
I think what you’re failing to understand is the scale. This isn’t an exploded propane tank. It’s the devastation of entire industries, incredible natural resources, spread across multiple states. Have you stopped to consider what a second incident like this one would mean for the region? I appreciate what a six month work stoppage means for an industry of this size, but it still doesn’t measure up to the dangers we’re talking about here. If we don’t make double damned sure it can’t happen again, there won’t be any industry in the gulf region, unless you count the people employed to wash birds with Dawn dishwashing liquid.
Are you F-ing kidding me!?
Did you already forget the thread last week, where I was saying that Obama has to do something, and you were saying that the government should just sit back and watch the atrocity occur? Do I have to copy some of my posts here? Do I have to post yours, or Mr. Maley’s?
Furthermore, my logic can easily be extended to this situation, Scott. If the other rigs are operating well, without reason to suspect any other safety issues - unlike deepwater horizon - they should be allowed to continue their operations. If Obama were serious about dealing with this, all of the other rigs in operation in US waters could have been inspected and approved for continued operations by now. Face it, Obama simply has no idea what else to do, and since this is an industry that he despises anyway…. and since Liberals can only think of one way to deal with things they don’t like (ban it) you have our current situation.Now, if our Moron-in-Chief had gotten off his dopey ass sometime a couple months ago and asked the oil companies to voluntarily suspend operations so that their rigs could be inspected… I would have less of a problem with it. Instead, all he could think of was to stop the whole works for six months…. typical.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1915 hrs
Once again, I posit, that diverting the remaining stimulus funds to the gulf would be a positive way to start on this…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1924 hrs
you were saying that the government should just
sit back and watch the atrocity occur?Yes, I think you should absolutely quote where I said that. What I really said was, in effect, nobody knows how to stop the spill except the August-timed relief well. Bashing the president because he hasn’t personally dived into the gulf with a big wad of magic bubble gum isn’t fair and it isn’t helping. What the government needs to do is make sure all necessary and helpful resources are being brought to bear on protecting the gulf and on cleanup—and on making sure that BP doesn’t skate on their responsibilities going forward. PLUS their role is to make damned sure that something changes so that this kind of disaster doesn’t happen again.
Your assessment that every deep water oil rig could have been inspected by now to specifically verify that they aren’t doing any of the risky things BP did is almost certainly wrong. And that is precisely what the moratorium is meant to allow. Besides, maybe we shouldn’t allow any of them to go forward until they’re forced to lay plans to drill their own relief wells in advance of any future catastrophes like this one.
I was saying that Obama has to do something
And now he’s doing something and you hate it and accuse him of nefarious purposes behind it. I’m hiding my surprise.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1930 hrs
diverting the remaining stimulus funds to the gulf would be a positive way to start on this
Why would that be necessary? BP has deep pockets, they are responsible for the damage, and there’s already an independently managed 20b escrow account against damage. I don’t think the problem is that the effort is short of cash.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 1932 hrs
off topic
“Gasland” aired Monday night, 6.21, on HBO and Tuesday on PBS.
It’s a muckraker documentary about the natural gas industry and it current drilling method of hydraulic fracturing, or “fracking”.
Fracking pumps millions of gallons of chemically treated water deep into the earth, shattering the shale so that a gas well can be tapped. Gas companies are not legally compelled to name all the chemicals used, citing company chemical formula secrets.
The 2005 Energy Act (Dick Cheney) exempted gas exploration from federal water safety laws.
in the small town of Dimmick, Pa., some residents sold their rights; their wells turn toxic soon after the drilling began. Later in Colorado and Wyoming, farmers and rural residents who blame unregulated fracking for their ruined water supplies. are captured on film, some with home faucets that now ignite with flame due to natural gas contamination.
Image: http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2010/06/20/PH2010062003288.jpg
If ya want no government, move to Somalia.
Less regulation? Less prevention? How is the average person supposed to fight for compensation for destruction of his property against corporate giants; their big purses; the government representatives they place, own, rent;, and their legal teams? Does a little freedom need to occasionally have some reasonable rules put in place to protect property, rights, peace of mind, and keep the peace? If BP had followed regulations more closely and also followed deepwater drilling recommendations, if they had not been so cost cutting on safety measures, at least their stockholders would be happier: They were at $60 per share in April; now they are at $30. How much money have they spent on cleanup and compensation using the penny wise, dollar stupid approach?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 1933 hrs
Have you stopped to consider what a second incident like this one would mean for the region?
There have been TWO similar incidents since Gulf drilling began.
One was caused by a State-owned oil company.
Have you stopped to consider the probability numbers you’re calling up? AND have you stopped to consider that 5,000 feet is a LOT different than 1,000 feet? 500 feet?
I doubt it.
Posted by dad29 on June 23, 2010 at 2031 hrs
Almost hate to respond to an argument that take on such Bartonesque hyperbole.
Strawmen- they serve us well when our idea’s are poor
Lets see-
Our choice is between a government that does nothing and a hardware store in Manitowoc as representative of the greatest man made disaster in the history of the United States.Briliant work D”-case closed
As of today- the spilled worsened and none of the oil companies we are supposed to ask to voluntarily inspect their own platforms has come up with the solution for Mankind and BP
Which means they either
a) have it and are keeping it to themselvesb) have no idea how to stop it or anything like it that happens
and are just thanking god it wasn"t themc) are so far superior to BP in their drilling expertise that we should trust them explicitly that something like this could never happen to them
As a guy who wakes up every day with his own $ on the line ,I chose B
in my real world- you lose all your own money by believing charlatans- and that is what the oil boys are when it comes to deep drilling.
Enough- you get one huge,incredibly expensive and environmentally disterous screw up- and then we move on.
Do we shoot the whole industry in the Gulf because of one mistake?
Yes we do, when it’s the Mother of all Mistakes.we give up the 4% of our needs that domestic drilling would give us and look at the long term , for once.
Gluttony was one of the deadly sins- and when it comes to oil- we americans are the origional pigs at the trough.
gas prices go way up- and we suffer for a decade-fine
we simultaneously put all the other options into effect ,including nuclear- and earnestly hope for the day when oil is the buggy whip of energy
I am aware of the “we need low gas prices and those oil jobs or civilization dies ” theory.
It’s the last refuge of energy cowards or energy whores .
Your choice
Strawmen-they work well-but only for me.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 2038 hrs
Christian A. DeHaemer. “The Well from Hell.”
http://www.petroleumworld.com/sf10062001.htm“The Dwarves dug too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum… shadow and flame.” — Saruman, The Lord of the Rings
“The BP well itself started 5,000 feet below the surface… the company attempted to drill more than 30,000 feet below that.”
“According to the New York Times , BP’s internal “documents show that in March, after several weeks of problems on the rig, BP was struggling with a loss of ‘well control.’ And as far back as 11 months ago, it was concerned about the well casing and the blowout preventer.”
“The problem is that this methane, located deep in the bowels of the earth, is under tremendous pressure…Some speculate as much as 100,000 psi — far too much for current technology to contain. The shutoff vales and safety measures were built for only 1,000 psi.”
“Upon using a GPS and Depth finder system, experts have discovered a large gas bubble, 15-20 miles across and tens of feet high, under the ocean floor [in the vicinity of the BP well]”
That said, a bubble this large — if able to escape from under the ocean floor through a crack — would cause a gas explosion that Mr. Hoagland likens to Mt. St. Helens… only under water.
“The BP well is 50 miles from Louisiana. Its release would send a toxic cloud over populated areas. The explosion would also sink any ships and oil structures in the vicinity and create a tsunami which would head toward Florida at 600 mph.”
Bloomberg reminds: “Forecasters are predicting this year’s Atlantic hurricane season, which runs from June 1 to Nov. 30, may be among the most active on record…Three storms, two of them hurricane-level, may pass through the oil spill area, while three more may come close enough to affect cleanup operations and other rig activity…”Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 2105 hrs
scott:
“Might come as a surprise to you that nobody here in America is in that situation today. And thus your use of the phrase “just like” is completely wrong”
You can’t possibly be so thick not to see the parallels, only in our case today the concerns aren’t only taxes, but tyrannical overthrow of our system of Government, and destruction of our Constitution. But as the dyed in the wool Liberal you are, I’m sure you have no problem with that in the first place.
scott:
“Did you or did you not have the opportunity to vote in a fair election?”
I’m beginning to wonder if there are such a thing “fair elections” in Liberal strongholds like Wisconsin.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 2117 hrs
And I’m beginning to wonder if your’e off your meds.
Posted by scott on June 23, 2010 at 2225 hrs
Mr Penterman - we don’t need more regulation, just regulators that actually do their jobs instead of surfing porn on the job.
Mr Maley - gas prices go up and we suffer for a decade, fine… Really? You go first mkay?
Seriously, it is truly annoying when people who know absolutely nothing about any part of the energy industry spout their drivel.
Point 1 - oil does not create a lot of electricity. It does, however, facilitate 99% of us to get to their jobs (providing you still have one), 100% of all of our food to be produced and get to the grocery store, and our other needs to get to the Stuff-Mart of your choice. But hey, mucho expensive gas sounds like a dandy idea right cuz we are all rolling in extra moola now, right? Moron.
Point 2 - Google or Bing “Rare Earth Metals” and see how envioronmentally-friendly the battery technology for hybrid and/or electric cars are. Bonus question? Which country who is oh-so-friendly to the US damn-near corners the market here.
Point 3 - pretend for a moment that the Obama Energy Department would get off of its collective thumbs and approve some nuke plants tomorrow. The first one wouldn’t come on line until 2019 at best. So even if you can pretend that an electric car is a great idea even with a 15 year payback curve and after reading Point 2, you will need to charge them between rolling blackouts.
Point 4 - Wind and Solar… hahahahahahahaha.. foo-foo-feel-good fairy dust and unicorn farts.
Point 5 - if deep water drilling is so f-ing evil, why is the US sending a couple billion dollars to Brazil to fund theirs?
Bottom line - we are at least two decades - probably more like three - away from any sort of real efficienct and commercially-viable alternative to oil. Longer if the Feds continue to insist on decided which technologies they want us to have instead of letting the market figure it out with innovation.
This moratorium does nothing but make useful idiots feel better because it looks like the government is doing something, and put tens of thousands more out of work.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 23, 2010 at 2308 hrs
It’s the devastation of entire industries
Umm, no. wasn’t Obama down on the gulf eating shrimp and other seafood the other day? What industries have been entirely shut down?
If we don’t make double damned sure it can’t happen again,
I’m glad you and other wimps are not in charge of the airline industries, coal and other mining, NASA, truck driving, auto racing, Amtrack and railroads, automobile, post office, education, military and other industries that have caused enviromental or deaths.
Very pathetic argument, scott.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 0242 hrs
And now he’s doing something and you hate it and accuse him of nefarious purposes behind it. I’m hiding my surprise.
Nothing nefarious about stupidity. Obama just doesn’t know what else to do, and Big Oil is a bogeyman of the left to begin with. Don’t try and minimize my statement with your thinly veiled accusations of “kookery”.Everyone knows Obama hates hydrocarbon energy. He specifically stated it in his campaign…. You can cover your ears and stomp your feet all you want, Scott. Doesn’t change a thing.
BP has deep pockets, but they are clearly not digging into them. Once again, since you seem to have the memory of a small infant. I think that the congress should divert stimulus dollars to the gulf to help protect the coastlines, where industries are being destroyed, then sue BP to retrieve the money spent.
The administration should also stop standing in the way of the ideas put forth by the governors of the gulf states. We need to pull out every trick in the book, and make up a few new ones here…..
Furthermore, what makes you think that a six month moratorium is going to do anything positive? He waited one third that amount of time to even impose the moratorium. Do you think the oil is going to be cleaned up after six months, and everything will be hunky dory down there? Do you think that if there were a spill in 6 months and 1 day it wouldn’t be just as bad as if there were one right now?You guys are so forward thinking, it is astounding.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 0832 hrs
And whose fault is it that we have to be drilling miles down when there is plenty of oil available in land based wells and shallow offshore wells? And let’s not even mention natural gas, God forbid.
Call me a crackpot, but I always had the inkling the US was going to let the Middle East run out of oil, and then we can call the shots. Of course by that time, there will be some new energy source like hydrogen or Obama wind (hot air) powered autos.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 0948 hrs
@30 “Bottom line - we are at least two decades - probably more like three - away from any sort of real efficienct and commercially-viable alternative to oil.”
The bigger issue is “Hubbert’s Peak or Peak Oil is here if not in the next 5 years. Supply will outstrip demand. Google peak oil or go to http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ Big .oil, Dick Cheney, and the U.S. military have acknowledged it. It is unlikely alternatives will make peace with the U.S. suburban sprawl life style in time. The military and the rich will get first dibs on the remaining reserves. Meanwhile, taxpayers will continue to subsidize military conflicts with countries like Iraq, Iran, and Venezuela through “regulation”.
The oil industry, cars and, consequently, U.S. suburbs creation have been subsidized for years with tax breaks and hwy funds and what not for decades, thanks to “regulations”.
Please cite where you discovered government oil rig regulators and/or safety inspectors were “surfing porn on the job” or name names.
There are 104 operating reactors in the U.S. Pres. Obama announces $8.3 billion in federal loan guarantees for two new reactors in Georgia proposed by Southern Company Feb. 16 (AOL News) and On June 10 the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) approved the startup of a $3B USD uranium enrichment plant in New Mexico (dailytech.com). Obama’s plan includes $54B USD in proposed loan guarantees for new nuclear plants is also gaining ground (dailytech.com). Read the news?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 1128 hrs
Ah the poopflinging is in fine form! :zpopcorn:
Posted by Jay4Liberty on June 24, 2010 at 1215 hrs
I’ve been hearing cries of “Peak Oil” since 2002. Wow.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 1316 hrs
Please cite where you discovered government oil rig regulators and/or safety inspectors were “surfing porn on the job” or name names.
There are posts with links to the IG report on the MMS employee problems, including gifts, porn, and drugs at Sweetness & Light, Fast Company, and The Other McCain, but I have been unable to link to them.
Funny you mention all the supposed “news” about nuclear. Glad you are a supporter, but I work in the nuke industry. With the exception of the uranium enrichment license you mention - Its all window dressing.
You need to understand that the application for the operating license for the GA facility a design of reactor that hasn’t been approved yet. Also note that “loan guarantee” does not equal “funding”. The local utility still has to fund it. Also of note, they defunded Yucca Mountain for spent fuel storage. If Obama and his Nobel-Prize-Winning Energy Secretary were serious about nuclear, they would be using stimulus money to fund the construction of the plants and we’d be hearing a lot more about how to use that spent fuel.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 1755 hrs
I read Yucca Mountain was defunded because of concerns it was built near a large water source and a fault line. Unbelievable engineering error - than again, shutting it down is better than finding out later. I read the Obama nuclear platform called for storing the waste at the plants for now. I need to read further.
@36 “Peak Oil” has been around since 1956: Hubbert correctly predicted U.S. production would peak in 1970. In a 1999 speech as CEO of Halliburton, Cheney stated that over the years ahead there are estimates of two-percent annual growth
in global oil demand, “along with, conservatively, a
three-percent natural decline in production from existing reserves.” Right from the horse’s mouth. If we all live 20-30 more years, we’ll witness huge changes in the way our economy is powered.Yay, we’re soon gonna go “officially” into Venezuela:
Rueters: “Venezuela to nationalize U.S. firm’s oil rigs”
By Frank Jack Daniel Frank Jack Daniel – Thu Jun 24
CARACAS (Reuters) – Venezuela will nationalize a fleet of oil rigs belonging to U.S. company Helmerich and Payne, the latest takeover in a push to socialism as President Hugo Chavez struggles with lower oil output and a recession.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 2039 hrs
Rueters: “Venezuela to nationalize U.S. firm’s oil rigs”
By Frank Jack Daniel Frank Jack Daniel – Thu Jun 24
CARACAS (Reuters) – Venezuela will nationalize a fleet of oil rigs belonging to U.S. company Helmerich and Payne, the latest takeover in a push to socialism as President Hugo Chavez struggles with lower oil output and a recession.The same thing happened in some story I read this one time, except it was copper mines. I can’t remember the name. Oh well, who is John Galt?
Posted by Jay4Liberty on June 24, 2010 at 2131 hrs
I read the Obama nuclear platform called for storing the waste at the plants for now. I need to read further.
Not so much the “Obama"plan… its what they do now and have been for quite some time. All the plants have run out of pool space so now have the spent rods in dry casks. Yucca mountain was for enhancing security among other reasons. Gamma rays kinda suck to the human body. The defunding reasons you state are BS - it was a big sloppy one to Harry Reid. The Europeans store their stuff in mountains a heckuva lot closer to people than Yucca Mountain was.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 24, 2010 at 2149 hrs
Do we shoot the whole industry in the Gulf because of one mistake?
Yes we do, when it’s the Mother of all Mistakes.Sure. After the MN/StP I-road bridge caved in, the logical and rational response was to close ALL bridges in the US.
Penterman, read this carefully:
“along with, conservatively, a
three-percent natural decline in production from existing reserves.”EXISTING reserves are not the same as DISCOVERED oil, nor are they the same as UN-discovered oil.
Learning to read for meaning is important.
Posted by dad29 on June 26, 2010 at 1035 hrs
I didn’t want to weigh this blog down with current reserve estimates. The easiest to drill, easiest to process sweet crude has been discovered. Saudia Arabia is pumping seawater into many of its existing wells to float oil to their pumps. The countries actual reserve numbers are closely guarded and considered inflated by many sound sources. Much like Kazakhstan’s reserves were inflated. Now, oil wise,the planet is left with finishing off tapping Africa and Afghanistan, oil shale and tar sands (dirty/expensive), heavy crude (Venezuela) that requires expensive refinery reconfigurations, coal converted to oil (dirty/expensive), the ocean deep, and the Arctic and Antarctic.
Hence, Russia planting her flag where its continent’s northern underwater shelf ends, the exclusive bidding on Iraq oil contracts stolen by Saddam Hussein’s gov., the $400 million congress approved during the Bush II GOP’s final years to topple the Iranian government, and the U.S. military bases in South America (Manta, Ecuador; Aruba; Curacao; and Comalapa, El Salvador; Soto Cano in Palmerola, Honduras; Ascension Island, the Caribbean; Honduras; Antigua; Peru; Colombia, and on Andros Island in the Bahamas—-All this for cocaine and FARC? C’mon.).
I read too much.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on June 26, 2010 at 2027 hrs
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