MJS Endorses Obama
Water is wet. Bears poop in the woods. The MJS endorses Obama. They give some sort of rationale, but basically it’s because they are lefties and so is Obama.
They are both so tax and spend…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 0029 hrs
I’m shocked…just shocked. I mean MJS hass been in the tank for every Leftist cause since I was a kid. How is this different?
Posted by Steve on October 26, 2008 at 0507 hrs
How important are editorial endorsements? I seem to recall hearing that the impact was estimated to be something like as low as 0% and as high as statistically insignificant.
Here’s a few thoughts from 4 years ago, re: editorial endorsements:
“Editorial endorsements are dinosaurs. The vast majority of the public don’t read editorials,” Larry Sabato, political science professor and head of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics told UPI, a wire news service.
“The handful of people who read editorials already know for whom they are going to vote. They are either reading it for reinforcement or they are reading it because it’s part of a newspaper.
While they were useful in the 18th century, today “there are thousands of options for interested news consumers, voters, and this really is horse and buggy. People make up their own minds.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/endorse_10-26-04.html
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 0837 hrs
How do you explain those leftists down in Texas at the College Station Eagle endorsing Obama?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 0845 hrs
Nice one, 3rd way. Or how about the Tribune, whose only editorial endorsement for a Democrat ever was Horace Greeley, and he was an independent at the time of the endorsement.
That being said, editorial endorsements are not all that important for presidential races, other than that candidates can cite them in TV ads. But they are still important in downticket races, because in the noise of presidential election years, candidates for the stat lege and minor statewide candidates have a difficult time breaking through all the clutter.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 0959 hrs
Im confused here in LaCrosse.
the lacrosse tribune endorsed obama for pres.
but endorsed kapanke and huebsch 2 republicans for sate assembly and senate.
dont they know edorsing a republican will cost them subscribers from the democrats in this area. lolPosted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1009 hrs
Yeah, because the Eagle is a bastion of conservative opinion? Whatever. Just because it’s in CS doesn’t mean that it ain’t liberal.
Posted by Owen on October 26, 2008 at 1033 hrs
When’s the last time the Eagle endorsed a Democrat for president?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1140 hrs
Were they leftist when they endorsed Walker two times?
Is the Wisconsin State Journal leftist as well? Cause they backed Obama, after going with Bush isn 2000 and 2004.
How about the Houston Chronicle?
How about the over 30 newspapers nationwide that backed Bush in 2004 that are endorsing Obama today? Are they all leftist?
Could you provide a score card?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1150 hrs
Oh for pete’s sake. Please, explain away the Chicago Trib’s endorsement. Please. And the LaCrosse Tribune’s (which also endorsed 2 VERY conservative Repubs).
Is everyone “in the tank” (can we retire that phrase? Please?) and simple-minded if they REVERSE COURSE and endorse a Dem after YEARS of endorsing Repubs?
Give me a break. Your paranoia is showing.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1423 hrs
My goodness, you guys are strange. Are any of you seriously going to argue that the MJS editorial page is NOT lefty?
You can argue about those other papers all you want. I am not privy to their normal editorial bent or their reasons for their endorsements. But that still doesn’t negate the fact the the MJS is liberal. If you deny that, then either you don’t read it, or you’re not paying attention.
In the end, I’ve never been convinced that endorsements matter a bit. Are any of you basing your vote on the endorsement of a particular newspaper? I didn’t think so.
Posted by Owen on October 26, 2008 at 1428 hrs
That’s not the point, Owen. The question wasn’t “Is the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel lefty?” The question is “Is the MJS endorsing BO because it is lefty?” Two different issues.
Your posts says WJS endorses BO BECAUSE they are lefty. However, the fact that SO many right-leaning newspapers are endorsing BO suggests, very strongly, that there are plenty of reasons other than good old knee-jerk liberalism to support BO.
Your reponse to all of those endorsement? Silence. Very telling silence.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1431 hrs
A lot of newspapers are endorsing Obama. So what? I never really cared about their opinions before and I don’t much now. I also don’t really care about the MJS’ choice, but was merely pointing out that you could have predicted this endorsement in what… March?
I admit that I’m a bit flummoxed as to why all of y’all are so threatened by admitting that the editorial board of the MJS is made up overwhelmingly of lefties and they based their choice on their leanings. Isn’t that what they are supposed to do?
Posted by Owen on October 26, 2008 at 1442 hrs
I keep seeing ridiculous polls that put obama ahead. I just saw www.thenewvote.com which is showing 94% obama. I mean come on. I texted in to make sure that when the media shows these things at least my vote shows up.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1505 hrs
Even the Anchorage Daily News has endorsed Obama.
If you don’t give a care about newspaper endorsements, why write about it?
You write as if you’ve never picked up the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel before. Some of your favorite columnists ooze out of their OP-ED pages.
Water’s wet and so are you.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1513 hrs
Wonkettegirl: Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean that everyone isn’t still out to get me, or that all mainstream media isn’t in the tank for Obama.
The endorsement I am waiting for is from Osama Bin Laden. Will he endorse McCain for “not going after him in his cave?” as Obama put it.
I would not bet on it. We will see when the tape comes out. If it comes out.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1519 hrs
(which also endorsed 2 VERY conservative Repubs)
That’s the funniest shit I’ve read all day. Wonkettegirl must not pay much attention to Wisconsin politics.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 1713 hrs
I admit that I’m a bit flummoxed as to why all of y’all are so threatened by admitting that the editorial board of the MJS is made up overwhelmingly of lefties and they based their choice on their leanings. Isn’t that what they are supposed to do?
Owen,
It’s not that it’s hard to admit the MJS leans liberal, they do. It’s that you seem to want that fact to vindicate the claim that their endorsement, whatever value you wanna give to it, is a knee jerk and thoughtless one. Wonkette challenged you on that thought, and your response: “I don’t care about them…” You can do better.Posted by Mike on October 26, 2008 at 1914 hrs
MJS leans liberal? In many ways they are reflecting the American majority opinion.
If they are so liberall, why do they give so much ink to McIlheran?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 26, 2008 at 2215 hrs
Keith -
Is modern liberalism monolithic, or could it be the MJS recognizes market forces?
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 27, 2008 at 0045 hrs
The old Milwaukee Journal (before the dailies merged) was certainly liberal. The current MJS is kind of all over the map—or sits on the fence, depending on your point of view. Also remember, it’s owned by the same company whose name is printed on Charlie Syke’s paychecks.
When you criticize milquetoast, centrist sources such as the MJS with the same intensity you criticize those that are truly left-leaning, the cry of “liberal media!” is like crying wolf.
Major media companies lean, but they lean more toward dollar signs than toward a particular ideology.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 27, 2008 at 1500 hrs
If the MJS was leaning toward dollar signs, they would tend to lean right, or at least to the middle, where their customer base actually is. While in general, newspaper readership is going downhill. lefty papers like the MJS are flailing more rapidly while conservative papers are tending to hold their own.
So preach on MJS, all the way to bankruptcy.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 27, 2008 at 1532 hrs
Bajaskier, perhaps you and I can agree that “right” and “left” are in the eye of the beholder? I don’t see the MJS holding a definite stance one way or the other. I would also argue that in trying to be all things to all readers, it is trying to lean toward dollars, but print media are going down the tubes everywhere, so it doesn’t have much hope. Likewise with the more conservative Tribune Corp. It’s bleeding money.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 27, 2008 at 1553 hrs
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