I love reading old books. One of the reasons I love it is because the writing is as interesting as the story being told. It reveals the perceptions, biases, and perspectives of the author and the time period as much as the information being conveyed. For example, I have a history book of WWI written in 1919. It has a vastly different perspective and uses starkly different language than one written in 1998.
I’m currently reading the Memoirs of Robert E. Lee. Of course, Marse Robert never wrote his memoirs, so it’s a bit of a misleading title. In fact, this is written by General A. L. Long, Lee’s longtime secretary and friend. Long wrote the memoir with the input of many of Lee’s contemporaries and after Long went blind. The original publishing date was 1887.
On page 61, in reference to the conclusion of the Mexican-American War and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, Long writes:
The terms on which the peace was granted, as is well known, were highly advantageous to the United States, and perhaps in no just sense disadvantageous to Mexico, for the provinces which were ceded to the United States, though they have been raised to such a high value by Anglo-Saxon enterprise and energy, were almost worthless in the hands of the supine Mexicans.
(Do you see where I get my love of commas?) Agree with it or not, a sentence like that, would not be written in a modern history book. Old books are like two treasures in one.
you might enjoy “Pride and Prejudice and Zombies”, and “Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter” by Seth Gream-Smith
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 10, 2010 at 2235 hrsJust goes to show the destructive power of “Political Correctness”. The point of view of the observer can no longer be put into unadulterated frank verbiage for fear of offending. It’s totally absurd, especially considering there are none “more” offensive than those who “demand” political correctness be adhered to. Nowhere is anyone here guaranteed the “right” not to be offended, which is a goal unattainable when there are those who’s entire existence revolves around being offended.
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 10, 2010 at 2334 hrsthere are none “more” offensive than those who “demand” political correctness be adhered to. Nowhere is anyone here guaranteed the “right” not to be offended
So, wouldn’t that mean that the people who supposedly “demand” political correctness have just as much right to “offend” you with their “demands” that you be politically correct as you have to “offend” them with your political incorrectness?
And aren’t you being just as offensive by demanding that they stop being offended by you as they are by demanding that you stop being offensive?
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 11, 2010 at 2149 hrsWhat gives Liberals the “moral authority” to determine what is, or isn’t acceptable that I may, or may not say or do, when there are a myriad of actions and speech they themselves practice that are repugnant to me? The difference is that Liberals demand everyone adhere to what they’ve determined to be acceptable while ignoring that which others find offensive on their part.
To make it easy for you diheru, it’s the clear hypocrisy Liberals are so well known for that is so troublesome.
But to answer your question, I never demanded anyone “not” offend me where political correctness simply by it’s existence “is” a demand that no one express themselves in a manner Liberals in particular deem offensive.
Apparently you lack the self awareness to recognize that your demand that liberals drop their political correctness is, in itself, a form of political correctness.
You have determined that criticism of your speech on the grounds that others may find it to be sexist or racist is unacceptable.
You have the right express yourself as you wish. However, other people have the right to criticize your speech as well, even if their criticism “offends” you because of their supposed hypocrisy, or whatever. Remember, “Nowhere is anyone here guaranteed the “right” not to be offended”.
Your tirade against “political correctness” is, in fact, a demand that no one express themselves in a manner that YOU find to be offensive, i.e. by criticizing speech that they find to be sexist or racist.
But it’s typical of an insecure conservative to feel like his rights are being violated just because someone expresses disagreement.
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 0653 hrsDamn political correctness keeping the gay sex books out of the childrens section in the library.
Oh wait…no that’s OK.
Posted by Jay4Liberty on May 12, 2010 at 0917 hrsAs seems to be the Liberal habit, again you read into a post words that are not there. Your “interpretation” of what was posted is not what the words actually say, but rather what you want them to mean in order to justify your self righteous persona. I’ve long ago learned to take your comments with a grain of salt diheru. You’ve proven time and again that you not so much comment to get a point across, but more to insult, or question another’s intelligence. The Liberal’s capacity for invective is proof in itself that you’re not as accepting as you make yourselves out to be, but in fact, prone to bullying tactics to brow beat those you disagree with to submit to your doctrine.
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 0919 hrsYou’ve proven time and again that you not so much comment to get a point across, but more to insult, or question another’s intelligence.
Not everyone, just those who deserve it.
I don’t know how you can say I’m reading something into your comments. I quoted from you comments extensively to form my own.
You are complaining about PC Libs objecting to content they don’t like.
Those PC Lib objections are content you don’t like. And you are objecting.
You are doing the same thing as them.
PC Libs don’t like expressions of sexism or racism.
Scott(I-C) don’t like expressions of disapproval from PC Libs
You have the right to criticize PC Libs.
They have the right to criticize you.
They don’t have the right to stop you from making sexist or racist expressions
You don’t have the right to stop them from criticizing you.
Do you get it now?
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 0934 hrsWell let’s start from scratch then.
diheru #3:
there are none “more” offensive than those who “demand” political correctness be adhered to. Nowhere is anyone here guaranteed the “right” not to be offended
So, wouldn’t that mean that the people who supposedly “demand” political correctness have just as much right to “offend” you with their “demands” that you be politically correct as you have to “offend” them with your political incorrectness?
And aren’t you being just as offensive by demanding that they stop being offended by you as they are by demanding that you stop being offensive?
Where do I “demand” they not offend me? Your reply of, “So, wouldn’t that mean”, to which I respond No, that doesn’t “mean” that at all, I was simply pointing out the fact. You chose to make it “mean” that. Liberals do have the right to offend me which they do on a regular basis.
diheru # 5:
Apparently you lack the self awareness to recognize that your demand that liberals drop their political correctness is, in itself, a form of political correctness.
You have determined that criticism of your speech on the grounds that others may find it to be sexist or racist is unacceptable.
You have the right express yourself as you wish. However, other people have the right to criticize your speech as well, even if their criticism “offends” you because of their supposed hypocrisy, or whatever. Remember, “Nowhere is anyone here guaranteed the “right” not to be offended”.
But it’s typical of an insecure conservative to feel like his rights are being violated just because someone expresses disagreement.
I wouldn’t accept your rebuttal so you resort to:”Apparently you lack the self awareness to recognize that your demand that liberals drop their political correctness is, in itself, a form of political correctness. Again, I demanded nothing. And my “lack” of awareness? What does that even mean? If I weren’t “aware” I’d have to be in a comma, or some other state that prohibits cognizant thought. Is that what you mean to say? If so, say it.
Then you go on to say: “Your tirade against “political correctness” is, in fact, a demand that no one express themselves in a manner that YOU find to be offensive, i.e. by criticizing speech that they find to be sexist or racist.”
Tirade? Please, is everything you disagree with a “tirade”, when in fact it’s nothing more than a personal opinion? And I still don’t see where I “demand” anything, only what you think. So in short everything you’ve posted has been what you “think” I mean rather than a reply to what I actually stated.
Where did I put that grain of salt?
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 1137 hrsWow Scott, you can really dance!
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 1148 hrsScott, I don’t think you’ve left anything to “read into” your posts. You obviously have an axe to grind about political correctness. Didn’t seem to be the original topic of the post, but you’ve certainly directed it that way.
Did you receive a letter of reprimand from HR at your job or something?
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 1441 hrslaker, If I had, I would have resigned in protest.
It’s not that I have an axe to grind, it’s simply that I have “no use” for the concept. People shouldn’t have to be coerced into acting respectfully towards one another, it should be part of their developmental training, or at the very least, a realization they come to at some point as they mature. Unfortunately a lot of those who hold this concept to be of vital import have this unusual tenancy to apply not so politically correct labels to those they feel are not in lock step with them, hence, I find the concept, and those who insist on strict adherence to it to be insincere, and unworthy of my consideration.
I make no apologies for the direction the topic ended up taking. Maybe if we openly discussed the topic a consensus on it’s effect on American culture could be reached. From what I’m seeing it’s making a bunch of candyasses out of people who used to have convictions. I for one will not be made to become one of them.
Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on May 12, 2010 at 1553 hrs