Monday, March 02, 2009

Doyle Wants to Jack Up Background Check Fee

Doyle just doesn’t stop

Gov. Jim Doyle wants to increase fees for handgun purchase background checks.

Doyle’s executive budget calls for raising the check fee from $8 to $30.

The state Department of Justice asked Doyle to raise the fee from $8 to $13 to reflect the increased costs of performing the checks, but Doyle, a Democrat, went further.

Herein we come to the discussion about the difference between a tax and a fee.  When a fee is used for things other than to cover the specific services it was levied for, it becomes a tax.  In this case, an increase in the fee to $13 to cover the actual cost of doing the background check is legitimate (assuming that is the actual cost).  By increasing it further, Doyle is converting the fee into a tax. 

Yet another tax increase from our governor. 

(13) Comments
Posted by Owen at 1704 hrs
Firearms + Politics + Politics - Wisconsin
Tags: wisconsin, politics, firearms

  1. Herein we come to the discussion about the difference between a tax and a fee.  When a fee is used for things other than to cover the specific services it was levied for, it becomes a tax.  In this case, an increase in the fee to $13 to cover the actual cost of doing the background check is legitimate (assuming that is the actual cost).  By increasing it further, Doyle is converting the fee into a tax. 

    Except when calculating total taxes levied in Wisconsin.  Then a fee is never a tax because if fees are counted we find out that total revenue generated by Wisconsin in the form of taxes and fees is right about the national average and that takes away from our argument that Wisconsin is a high taxed state.

    Did I get that right?

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 02, 2009 at 1723 hrs


  2. Just keep this in mind when you hear a (Democrat) politician talk about how he or she does not want to take away your gun (that you’re always clinging to).

    While that might be somewhat true, they certainly don’t have any problems making it more expensive to obtain one.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 02, 2009 at 1724 hrs


  3. Next: the biggest ammo-tax increase in the history of the Universe, from BATF/E.

    My over/under line on that is January 2010.

    Posted by dad29 on March 02, 2009 at 1807 hrs


  4. The state Department of Justice asked Doyle to raise the fee from $8 to $13 to reflect the increased costs of performing the checks, but Doyle, a Democrat, went further.

    I like how they may have accidentally admitted something.  grin

    Posted by Deibert on March 02, 2009 at 2254 hrs


  5. Just keep diggin your hole doyle

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 02, 2009 at 2343 hrs


  6. The man will do anything to further infringe our firearms rights.  He is a handgun hater from way back.  I remember when he was AG and wanted to ban the possession of all handguns with barrels shorter than 4”.  When Dane County wanted to ban handguns he supported that effort.  He campaigned hard to keep the “right to keep and bear” out of the state Constitution.  He is and always has been a radical leftist who despises liberty and prefers his peasants and subjects unarmed-they are soooooo much easier to manage that way.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 0539 hrs


  7. Then a fee is never a tax because if fees are counted we find out that total revenue generated by Wisconsin in the form of taxes and fees is right about the national average and that takes away from our argument that Wisconsin is a high taxed state

    .
    Care to prove that?

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 0743 hrs


  8. It’s pretty obvious that Doyle is on a quest to remove as much money as possible from your wallet and give it to the trial lawyers (note increasing the auto insurance limits, and the reinstatement of the 1% liability) and WEAC (note removal of the QEO)

    He isn’t bashful about where it comes from - as long as he can increase the amount that he takes.

    I smell a new governor next term…

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 0811 hrs


  9. I smell a new governor next term…

    Whoever runs against him will need to have a 60/40 margin on people who cast only one ballot, however.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 0844 hrs


  10. Care to prove that?

    http://www.wccf.org/pdf/tax_publications_census_figu res_state_local_finances.pdf

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 0953 hrs


  11. Where did the $13 figure come from?  I was under the impression it was going to THIRTY, not THIRTEEN.

    Anyone?

    Posted by Mike Gallo on March 03, 2009 at 1715 hrs


  12. duh… I just skimmed it the first time and only saw the $13 number quoted.

    Posted by Mike Gallo on March 03, 2009 at 2037 hrs


  13. Let us thank JB Van Hollen for asking for the increase in the fist place thereby giving Doyle the idea to raise it.
      Knives in the back from every angle.

    Posted by (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on March 03, 2009 at 2347 hrs


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