Do What They’re Told
Here’s what our president thinks of those who are not a member of his political party.
The comment is derogatory, sure, but I think he’s referring to the fact that the Republican caucuses in Washington are generally a lot more unified than the Democratic ones. Isn’t that true?
Posted by scott on October 22, 2009 at 1129 hrs
Wow, this coming from the party that wouldn’t exist if they didn’t have the “Do What We Say” franchise locked up (i.e, unions, ACORN voter registration, etc).
I think New York 23 is showing that maybe things are starting to let loose - all that Tea Party activity is starting to gain traction and will affect the outcome of that race (might not work out so good for the Republicans this time, but there will be future races that aren’t going to work out for Democrats either).
A little off this topic, but it is a rainy day and this is for the benefit of those who need to see something amusing. Probably no one under the age of 45 will get it:
The Obama Zone
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheNoseOnYourFace#p/u/2/ZIG5k7xinRQ
Here’s the Twilight Zone episode (It’s a Good Life) - about 12 minutes into it.
http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/entertainment/watch/v17066464mB5ea8E9#
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 22, 2009 at 1145 hrs
Magic words have been scribbled on pieces of paper. You must obey the magic words or you will be locked in a cage or worse.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 22, 2009 at 1213 hrs
Awwww…does that hurt folks’ feelings??
Thin skin!
Posted by Mike on October 22, 2009 at 1255 hrs
I haven’t heard anyone say their feelings were hurt.
It’s just rhetoric. When did Obama say this? It sounds like he’s campaigning…
Posted by Smeety on October 22, 2009 at 1305 hrs
It would have been just as accurate—different in tone only—to say that congressional Republicans have their shit together and Democrats don’t. I see nothing controversial about the message itself. It’s common knowledge.
And do shut up about ACORN and unions. Some pathetic little organization whose primary purpose is to promote the interests of poor people, and a group of organizations whose political influence has been declining steadily for my entire lifetime are not threats to our precious bodily fluids. Get a grip.
Posted by scott on October 22, 2009 at 1312 hrs
Owen, in the context of 29 seconds, his remarks are derogatory, as Scott pointed out. But in those same 29 seconds he also said that “Democrats are their own worst enemy” and that “Democrats are an opinionated group”.
So, I’m struggling to figure out which party he’s really “dissing” here. A longer clip would be helpful, as the comment is clearly taken out of context, but out of the context of what? I know he’s speaking at a DNC Fundraiser but a longer clip does not appear to be available; maybe someone will post it later on Youtube.
Totally off topic here: On this home page, there is a window called Owen’s Library showing book covers that change from time to time. Are these your personal recommendations or is it a random selection by “LibraryThing”? Just curious…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 22, 2009 at 1313 hrs
The One must be running out of material - he stole that line from Biden.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 22, 2009 at 1437 hrs
ACORN, that “pathetic little organization” was scheduled to receive 4.19 BILLION from the taxpayers (Stimulus package)
Pathetic indeed.Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 22, 2009 at 2054 hrs
Yeah, boy, watch out for those poor people! They’re running the whole show, with their community organizers and government grants. Next thing you know they’re going to register black people to vote, and maybe even spend $0.00001 of your tax bill on midnight basketball or something.
Scary!
Clearly ACORN and the poor Americans they advocate for are running the whole show in this country.
Posted by scott on October 22, 2009 at 2338 hrs
Next thing you know they’re going to pay people to register dead and/or nonexistant black people to vote multiple times
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Fixed it for ya scott…
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 0812 hrs
Yeah Scott,
Your words only make sense if you believe ACORN is an advocate for poor people, rather than a finger of the Democratic party. Or maybe it is just a coincidence that at least 99% of the ACORN members are democrats.
One heck of a coincidence…Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 0955 hrs
It’s not a coincidence at all. It just so happens that poor people, and those who advocate their interests, see the Democratic party as more friendly to their goals. By a very large margin, I would guess. What, you didn’t know that?
Posted by scott on October 23, 2009 at 1011 hrs
Sorry, it was actually more the wrong tangent, on my part. Correct me if I am wrong, I thought ACORN was a get out the vote group, rather than a ‘poor people’s advocate’ group. That is just not the same thing… At all. (Therefore your words made no sense)They used to claim they were non-partisan and that they helped register people to vote. See, that does not save poor people money, as voting is free and they could very easily have done it themselves even if they do not have their own transportation.
Assuming the potential voter knows that most basic (and genereally accepted)claim of Democrats, they should already care enough to vote. I think of ACORN as at best an advocate of lazy people. Few people could convince me that they could not take the bus that one extra stop in four years to register. Aside from that, the Democrat claim to advocate the poor person is at best a mixed truth.
Even if it were wholly true, it is certainly an anti-American dream truth. It basically warns anyone sucking from the Governmental teat, that if they stop long enough to become successful, the Government will take a larger and larger portion away from you to support the people smart enough to keep sucking(hey, nice double entendre there).
As a worker virtually my entire adult life, the three months I spent getting an unemployment check were a torture to me, not a vacation. I felt like I was taking my neighbor’s money and there was nothing he could do about it. Call me old fashioned, but I will never approve of the entitlement mind-set, nor do I approve of encouraging it.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1112 hrs
ACORN is not just a GOTV group. According to Wikipedia they are “a collection of community-based organizations in the United States that advocate for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues.” And they have been around for almost forty years. As an aside, I should point out that liberal though I am, I’d never even heard of ACORN until just recently when the American right decided that they are the most sinister threat to whatever.
the Democrat claim to advocate the poor person is at best a mixed truth.
So you believe that Republicans are equally advancing the interests of this demographic, I guess.
I think of ACORN as at best an advocate of lazy people.
This would be one of the reasons these folks don’t believe you’re in their corner.
Posted by scott on October 23, 2009 at 1159 hrs
Yet, Scott it is the poor who are hit hardest by the Democratic policy. Ironic, isn’t it? Think endless taxing, Cap & Tax, opposing school choice, etc., etc.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1251 hrs
Haven’t heard of ACORN? C’mon- thousands of illegal ballots submitted by ACORN.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1314 hrs
Yet, Scott it is the poor who are hit hardest by the Democratic policy. Ironic, isn’t it?
Yeah, i get that you think that’s how it is. But they don’t. That is why the vote Democrat for the most part.
I find it appalling the amount of whining and hand-wringing the right is doing about a forty-year-old group that has pretty much no influence on anything. This while the economy is experiencing the worst crisis in 70 years, the financial system damned near imploded, the cost of health care is at an all-time high while the availability of it is at an all-time low, we’re fighting not one but two wars, one in ten homes is in foreclosure… Seriously, ACORN is what you think we should be talking about?
No, don’t answer that. I already know.
Posted by scott on October 23, 2009 at 1325 hrs
I agree that the Democratic voters don’t KNOW their being screwed by the party they vote for.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1327 hrs
So you believe that Republicans are equally advancing the interests of this demographic, I guess.
I believe that most politicians pay lip service to all but maybe one or two pet issues and spend the rest of their time collecting support for their next election regardless of party. So, yeah, I believe that as far as actual deeds that help people go, the parties are pretty equal. Supporting the poor with public funds helps more individuals in the immediate, supporting business growth helps people who ‘try’ much more in the long run, but it leaves more individuals by the wayside.
ACORN is not just a GOTV group.
Just looking through the internet ACORN seems to have multiple affiliations, but the GOTV agency is a separate entity and was the office that received the 4.9 billion talked about above.
This would be one of the reasons these folks don’t believe you’re in their corner.
I guess that depends upon what group is being defined here. The people that ACORN the GOTV agency actually ‘help’ are lazy or illegal. They were lazy in school if they do not know how to register and can’t pick up their designer 50,000 app phone to call and find out, and they are lazy now if they need someone to come to their door to get them to vote. If they actually go out and vote, they had the means to register for it. In WI you can register the same day you vote… You are correct, I am not in their corner. However, I am not Republican, never have been. The ACORN that is usually in the news is this specific agency or branch of ACORN.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1334 hrs
I find it appalling the amount of whining and hand-wringing the right is doing about a forty-year-old group that has pretty much no influence on anything. This while the economy is experiencing the worst crisis in 70 years, the financial system damned near imploded, the cost of health care is at an all-time high while the availability of it is at an all-time low, we’re fighting not one but two wars, one in ten homes is in foreclosure… Seriously, ACORN is what you think we should be talking about?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. You missed and hit your too hard head. It was one small reference in one persons comment until you both insulted and defended it in the same response, aggrandizing it in to the limelight of the comments. Wassa matter, tired of defending the indefensible? Welcome to the party of hope change, compromise and coalition.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1339 hrs
most politicians pay lip service to all but maybe one or two pet issues and spend the rest of their time collecting support for their next election regardless of party.
I think there’s something to that. Even more, I think that both parties tend to represent the interests of the well-off more than those of the have-nots. This is an artifact of the way we finance political campaigns.
as far as actual deeds that help people go, the parties are pretty equal.
I don’t agree with that. Even though it’s true that the gap between Democrats and Republicans is pretty narrow in the grand scheme of politics elsewhere in the developed world, it still can make a big difference.
It was one small reference in one persons comment until you both
My side weren’t the ones on TV pretending that it’s critically important national news.
Posted by scott on October 23, 2009 at 1356 hrs
My side weren’t the ones on TV pretending that it’s critically important national news.
Do you really want to trade frivolous stories obsessed on by the Democratic and Republican parties? You brought it to prominence here today and after what I perceive as failing to defend an idefensible org. you are now trying to not only minimalize it, but blame a different group for blowing it out of proportion. As we both agree that as far as political dishonesty goes, ACORN is an amateur, let us step on to more important things as you correctly call them.
Why is Obama continuing both wars and stepping up one of them when he campaigned himself as one of the proud few who has always been against both wars in specific and war in general. How/why was he given a peace prize for not stopping (or even dialing down)either action?
Why are the regulations for buying a home stricter than ever even while the Government is offering incentive to buy one. This results in giving incentives to people who can afford a house and have no real credit blemishes to buy their house now. (How is that helping the poor or the people who were foreclosed on?) How did the mandated pressure (bi-partisan)from the National Government to Banks to give loans to bad risks somehow become the banks fault?
Were you alive in the seventies? They did not have the overwhelming news sources of today, but inflation and job scarcity was significantly worse then and I am not 70 yrs old…yet. Quite honestly, I am not ready for the recession to end. If it did, the majority of individuals would begin to spend irresponsibly again and things would continue to spiral. Has it occurred to you (anyone?) that if individuals are to get out of debt, they have to stop spending money at some point and pay off some of their debt? I am proud of the recession at this point. It means that a large number of people are saving money and paying off debt. That is just as important to the future health of the economy as anything. That is just my opinion.
Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on October 23, 2009 at 1428 hrs
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