Saturday, August 16, 2008

Dean Calls GOP “White Party”

Isn’t Howard Dean a white guy?  Does he think he’s in the wrong party?

“If you look at folks of color, even women, they’re more successful in the Democratic Party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in the Republican Party,” Dean said Friday in an appearance on NPR’s “Tell Me More” program.

(27) Comments
Posted by Owen at 1100 hrs
Politics + Politics - General

  1. Perhaps he’s referring to the fact that few non-white people think the Republican party is good for them.

    Posted by scott on August 16, 2008 at 1128 hrs


  2. Perhaps, but that’s not what he said.  Just words?

    Posted by Owen on August 16, 2008 at 1137 hrs


  3. What do you think he meant, Owen?

    Posted by scott on August 16, 2008 at 1146 hrs


  4. I think he’s warning all non-whites that the R’s can’t be trusted for anything other then a “white” agenda.  What else could he possably mean?  Thats the race card, all the way!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 16, 2008 at 1306 hrs


  5. Totally agree…  Typical liberalese.

    Posted by GAMazy on August 16, 2008 at 1648 hrs


  6. I am like a pig in poop these days…or, a Kid in a Candy store…or, a hooker at a Viagra convention!

    Am I the only one who has not succumb to Obama’s mind altering, messiah like, gaze?  While everyone else salivates at the very sight of him, I just want to laugh!

    Are all of you folks still sleeping?  WAKE UP AMERICA!  THESE NEXT FEW WEEKS WILL BE UNLIKE ANY CATACLYSMIC EVENT THE PLANET, SOLAR SYSTEM, or GALEXY has ever seen!

    Another day into August, and yet another indication that the November 2008 Prophecy, which I have preached about a 2009 Clinton presidency since 2003, continues unravel the web we have weaved!

    I even called Rush Limbaugh this week, not that I am an avid listener, (or even a supporter for that matter) just to tell him about my prophesy.  He wouldn’t give me the time of day, let alone, a single raised eyebrow!

    Jim Quinn of http://www.warroom.com just ,doesn’t see it either.  I was hoping that at least the local guy would give my prophecy a consideration—no dice!

    And, it seems that nobody on the planet is hearing my scream!

    Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D) went on record today announcing that Half of the House would be voting for Clinton in Denver.  I am sure the Clinton PR machine is working overtime right now, after having been utterly silent since Hillary withdrew (or rather, Suspended) her White House run.

    Why has Clinton been silent these past few months?  Because she was busy hoisting the chess pieces of her “soon to be presidential legacy” onto the playing board!

    I myself am even amazed at how crystal clear the daily events have come together to form the road that will lead to the first woman president in US history.  I am amazed that this prophecy came to me so clearly!  I have to pinch myself a few times a day just to make sure!

    It is absolutely stunning to sit back and watch this happen, all the time rubbing my hands together in anticipation for the blade to fall in 2 weeks!

    I can’t even sleep at night!

    And, it has become amazingly clear just how BAD of a candidate Obama really is.  I mean, he is on the extreme left.  Not a centrist, and no where even near being any way, shape, or form, a logical candidate.  Why would the DNC put such a bad representation on the ballot?  It is plainly obvious that this guy, aside from being charming, is a complete bumbling idiot.

    I mean, this guy is a total cluster F*%K in every sense of the word.

    From his Marxist beliefs, his checkered past with associations with questionable characters, to being a Muslim, who America is fighting the fight of a lifetime, Obama is absolutely unelectable.

    Who the hell in their right minds would vote a Muslim into office when we are sacrificing our children to fight them in the sands of the middle east?  Nobody—and that’s the point.

    Hell, they could throw Micky Mouse up against him in November and he would still lose!

    He was NEVER meant to be the president.  And, he was never meant to even make it to the ballot in November.

    Obama’s sole purpose, since I first called it in 2003, is to run interference for Hillary.

    Are they working together?  ABSOLUTELY!

    Does he know he is the Ringer?  ABSOLUTELY!

    What does he have to lose?  NOTHING.

    What does he have to win?  A hell of a lot of CHINESE MONEY that the Clintons have collected over the years to buy the Obama Ringer.

    I am very anxious, however, to see how it plays out in Denver.  Will it be the super delegates?  Will it be 1968?  Will it be the Birth Certificate?  Will Obama be assassinated?

    Don’t touch that dial, folks!  We are 10 days away from finding out the answer to this, and many more questions!

    Read more of my rants at http://wwamerica.blogspot.com

    Posted by Xavier Holden on August 16, 2008 at 1945 hrs


  7. and Obama was behind the grassy knoll too…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 17, 2008 at 0841 hrs


  8. Wow, Xavy-
    I think you’re gonna need a session with your therapist for the day after the convention…

    Posted by Mike on August 17, 2008 at 1033 hrs


  9. I think it’s just more manufactured outrage. It’s obvious he was making an “on the one hand, on the other hand” comparison and simply misspoke.  Any time any Democrat so much as says the word “white” or “black,” the umbrage machine cranks up and the accusations of “They’re playing the race card” go out.

    Think for a minute. Why would the Obama campaign in its wildest nightmares want to do that? Why would they want to anger whire voters, who are still the largest bloc of voters in the country? They didn’t win the nomination away from Hillary Clinton by being stupid. But, it certainly makes sense for the McCain campaign to make people think Obama’s playing the race card.

    Not to mention the fact that he’s right. Women and minorities for the most part have been much more successful in the Democratic Party.

    I’d also like to thank CNN (damned liberal media) for searching until they found a picture of Howard Dean with John Edwards in the frame.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 17, 2008 at 1343 hrs


  10. Care to back that statement with any statistics, Scott?

    Posted by tee bee on August 17, 2008 at 1938 hrs


  11. Here—Currently only 14 percent of African-Americans vote Republican. from http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=African_American_Republican_Leadership_Council

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 17, 2008 at 2040 hrs


  12. Got a source for that stat Keith? Sourcewatch doesn’t source it, so how do we know it’s true?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 17, 2008 at 2227 hrs


  13. I thought that would suffice Jason because I see those numbers all over the place. Here is another source—http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2005/10/13/BL2005101300885.html

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 0715 hrs


  14. ”..few non-white people think the Republican party is good for them.”

    Care to back that statement with any statistics, Scott?

    ...how do we know it’s true?

    Boy, there’s a copula of guys with their fingers right on the pulse fo American politics!

    Posted by scott on August 18, 2008 at 0806 hrs


  15. If anything, Jason, that 14% may be a little high. I suspect an organization called the African American Republican Leadership Council would try to make their numbers as attractive as possible. I’m not suggesting they cooked their numbers, but they certainly may have skewed their questioning to get favorable results.

    Again, it is in the Republicans’ interest to make this campaign about race, and the best way for them to do that is to continually accuse the Obama campaign of playing the race card. That takes the onus off the McCain campaign if they can lay it all off on the Obama campaign.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 0900 hrs


  16. If anything, Jason, that 14% may be a little high. I suspect an organization called the African American Republican Leadership Council would try to make their numbers as attractive as possible. I’m not suggesting they cooked their numbers, but they certainly may have skewed their questioning to get favorable results.

    I agree, and that’s why I was questioning the lack of a source.

    Again, it is in the Republicans’ interest to make this campaign about race, and the best way for them to do that is to continually accuse the Obama campaign of playing the race card. That takes the onus off the McCain campaign if they can lay it all off on the Obama campaign.

    I disagree with that, mostly because if McCain does accuse Obama of playing the race card, the liberals are going to cry foul.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 0919 hrs


  17. I think he was talking about actually being in the party.  As in only the democratice party would nominate a black man and a women for president.  I totally disagree with that statement but that is how I read it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 0924 hrs


  18. 1st - if I remember correctly this isn’t the first time Howard Dean has slammed “white” republicans.  He made some comment a few years ago about republicans and the wait staff at a banquet or something like that, but the implication was that people of color were only servants to white republicans.

    2nd - ditto to #6 xavier holden.  While I don’t totally agree that PIAPS and BO are in cahoots, I’ve felt all along that something is going to happen to prevent BO from either being the nominee or winning the election and it’s going to be engineered by the Clintons but it won’t look like they did it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 1010 hrs


  19. It’s obvious he was making an “on the one hand, on the other hand” comparison and simply misspoke.  Any time any Democrat so much as says the word “white” or “black,” the umbrage machine cranks up and the accusations of “They’re playing the race card” go out.

    Simply misspoke?

    lol.  I always find it amusing how quickly some people will let their party hacks off the hook for a blatant comment like this as a ‘misspeak’ and then turn around and infer every possible negative connotation imaginable if a conservative or republican says something that can be in any possible way construed (or spun) as malfeasant.

    Howard Deans comment was your typical “withdrawn your honor” trick by an attorney.

    Say what you really want to say, draw upon every prejudice you can leverage, and then retract your comment when the intended damage was done.

    Howard Dean knew exactly what he was doing. 

    I know you libbies aren’t THAT naive.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 1040 hrs


  20. Nice dodge, Scott. How about an answer?

    Posted by tee bee on August 18, 2008 at 1047 hrs


  21. Stop, you’re making me laugh! 

    Are you seriously saying that you don’t know that most non-white voters favor the Democratic party?  Seriously??  I have to prove this to you?  You’re that unaware?

    Posted by scott on August 18, 2008 at 1155 hrs


  22. Howard Deans comment was your typical “withdrawn your honor” trick by an attorney.

    Actually, he’s a doctor, not a lawyer. wink

    I know I’ll never convince you otherwise, but sometimes people just misspeak, you know. Not everything is designed to some ulterior motive. I keep going back to my earlier point—why in the hell would Democrats deliberately piss off the largest bloc of voters in the country?

    Are you libertarians really that naive?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 1332 hrs


  23. No.  But they do suffer from the occasional bout of Democrat Derangement Syndrome.

    Posted by scott on August 18, 2008 at 1335 hrs


  24. why in the hell would Democrats deliberately piss off the largest bloc of voters in the country?

    Just because someone was white doesn’t mean they’d be pissed off by the “white party” comment.

    There are plenty of people who capitulate to the slightest criticism or suggestion that they aren’t “diverse”.  Many people lack the backbone to stand up to people who lob out accusations of racism and instead let others define what they should do to not be considerd “racist”

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 18, 2008 at 1355 hrs


  25. Scott, you don’t have much to offer because, other than breakdowns that show blacks falling heavily into the Dem column, you’ve determined that they’re all that counts. You won’t even bother checking the numbers.

    Furthermore, you said: “Perhaps he’s referring to the fact that few non-white people think the Republican party is good for them. “

    Two things make Dean’s comment and your assumption troubling:

    1. The majority of both the Dem and Repub parties are white - by a wide margin.
    2. The minorities the Dems tout a chokehold on do not eschew the Republican party, as you would have everyone believe, but thanks for resurrecting of the Dem Plantation.

    Posted by tee bee on August 18, 2008 at 1649 hrs


  26. There are plenty of people who capitulate to the slightest criticism or suggestion that they aren’t “diverse”.  Many people lack the backbone to stand up to people who lob out accusations of racism and instead let others define what they should do to not be considerd “racist”

    There are also plenty of people who refuse to take into account the way their statements sound to those outside their own communities. This statement applies to both sides of the aisle, by the way.  But when you say “let others define what they should do to not be considered racist,” you should acknowledge that there are certain phrases and/or deeds that will automatically put you there in some people’s eyes, regardless of how innocuous those phrases may seem to be, or might once have been.

    Look, if I thought Howard Dean had deliberately called the GOP the white party, I’d rip him for it, but I honestly don’t. I know the man slightly, having worked on his campaign in 2004, and I just don’t believe that. I have heard him start talking fast, and get tripped up, which I think is what happened here.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) on August 19, 2008 at 0911 hrs


  27. I for one try to stay away from criticisms involving gaffes or innuendo or even personal foibles (insofar as they are irrelevant to how effective the candidate can be in office).  Yes, that does include GOP candidates.  I don’t think I ever really made such an issue on my own blog, or in the comments of any other—excepting to suggest hypocrisy when it’s being done to our guys.

    I’d much prefer to stick to policy positions rather than all the gotcha and mudslinging.  I’d rather hear what you don’t like about the Democratic party platform than what you think Dean is a (reverse, double-twist) racist.  I’m tired of schoolyard level political discussions.

    Posted by scott on August 19, 2008 at 0916 hrs


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